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McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
So you are/were a good guy in government - not one of the evil ones Reagan was talking about in that quote of his? That being;
Hi, were from the govt and were here to help
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 22, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
Of course you will. Here's something to slobber on in the meantime. A REAL motorbike.

'51 Vincent Black Shadow 1000
Top Speed around 135mph
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
Slobbering here

Thanks Chief!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 04:48pm PT
2 wheel grief machine porn!^^^^^


Bikes are like RC helicopters. There are those that have crashed and those that will..( but those are gorgeous !)



And Mchale,, Yes that "image" stuck to us as well and the forest paid dearly for it then when eco groups and their science DENIED the obvious and true facts presented to them by truly GOOD govt types that only the had the BEST options for everyone concerned.

I just read a "doomsday" article of the beetles in Alaska being blamed on "GW".. BAHHHAHAaa.. It in essence is the fact that its stands ( stagnating due to dimished logging and wild fire suppression) have reached the zone of immanent mortality , become stressed due to too many stems per acre and the beetles now enjoy the stressed stands. They GO to "stressed" trees.. Those trees that are still DEEP in frozen snow at this very moment ,, so they arent stressed from " drying"...A forest has three ways of treatment.

Logging, wildfire, or ,,insect/disease. We long ago removed wildfire and can no longer have "naturally" burning fires. So your down to two viable options left. Logging or insects/diseases...But when stands reach the zone of eminent morality those are the choices.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 22, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
Ron just like in the movie "training day" when Denzel asks Ethan Hawke what was his most memorable FELONY ARREST---What was your most memorable felony arrest as a LEO (what we call TOOLS in JTree---because they look like ninja turtles with all the equipment they carry).

After that please explain the difference between SEA ICE SHEETS and CONTINENTAL ICE SHEETS and how they impact Sea level. Thanks
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
You need to post definitions to prove your own point mt lion.. by the way yur point is a rather moot one anyhoo.


Felony arrests? Well one was a pair of brothers who had been marking their own "timber' - dedicated commercial cutters who would be cutting at 200 am sometimes. Artificially enhanced with the amounts of speed they would snort. I swatted in on them, photographed them for a week. I was within ten feet of them many times and the never had a clue, day or night. Far in the back country that get yur heart rate up a wee. They were armed as well.


Another was going into the Woodfords Indian colony to serve a warrant on a local tribal member ( whos family was well known for LAW BReAKING) for felony theft of commercial logs from a deck, and had to have Alpine county AND CHP in full gear and auto ARs with me. Nothing like voluntarily strolling into what could be a mini iwo jima.. Im standin there watchin em clip on grenades tear gas canisters and the like thinkin,,, mannnn i HOPE we dont have to use ANY of this lol! But it WAS expected and there WAS a short stand off of about twenty long f-ing minutes. You wont believe how small you can make yurself to get behind a rock.No shot was fired though!. Hard to write out a mandatory appearance citation when yur bacon be a little shakin tu!
the worst you shall not hear.


wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
Sorry Ron, i thought your post said "are we now blaming wind for GW"

But you still have to work on that link thing.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 22, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
good stories Ron!

I am still waiting for the difference between Sea Ice Sheets and Continental Ice Sheets and how they impact Sea Level.

Could you get on to answering that question please?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Is it me, or is it really true that all the deniers are strong Faux News enthusiasts?
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 22, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
I think Ron works for FAUX News doing research and fact checking--it's a pretty cush job and he gets to telecommute to boot!!

I have an experiment for you to try at home Ron:

You need two glasses, water, ice, tape, magic marker, notebook, pen and paper towels.

Step one fill one glass with ice to the top but NOT over the top of the glass then fill that glass with water to the rim. Label this glass Sea Ice

Step two fill the other glass with ice to the top and add water then continue putting ice in the glass going over the rim as high as you can. Label this glass Continental Ice

Step three wait for the ice to melt and write down what you observe.

I look forward to your observations!!

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
busy workin on pieces.. lion,, i already answered yur question.. make yur own point or dont. im not going to do it for you. begging continually wont change the result.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
welcome to the NFL, mountainlion


maddening, eh?

ron will simply wear you out, he has more stamina to not correct himself than you do to keep posting

soon enough you will learn to accept this.

resistance is futile......
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
Norton ,you seem to be correct ,sir.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
funny, ive already posted a host of link titles regarding falling ocean levels ,,, is this MIC on?? testing two, three four,,PFFFFFFFPPHHHHFT two three four..
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 06:45pm PT
You probably mean the rate of increase in ocean levels is falling. There's hardly any way the levels themselves can be falling. That is outright silly, unless somebody pulled the plug down there.

Even with no glacier melt the oceans expand as they heat, but they could contract back some as the feedback of cold water from icemelt flows back into them.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
take yer pick:



80% of South Pacific islands are not flooding/sinking, they are growing in size link

Sea level rise has average 6 inches per century, no rate of increase has been observed. link

Sea level rise follows natural oscillations (Duke University) link

The rate of sea level rise has decreased 34 percent in the last decade. link

Sea level rise slowing down link

NOAA, no acceleration in sea level rise. link

Sea level rise has slowed the last seven years. Ed Caryl Link

Sea Level rise is slowing down. Klaus-Eckart Puls link

Relationship between solar activity and sea level. David Archibald link

Sea levels have been declining for the past 2 years link

NASA says sea levels are falling. link

NASA says sea level dropped in 2010 link

Island of Tuvalu and other Pacific Islands, are they threatened with sea rise? link

NOAA tidal gages shows sea level rise is averaging only 1.85 inches per century link

Sea level rise from polar ice melt is not a likely threat


McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
see what I mean? At least 3 out of 4 there say the rate is slowing, the rising itself is not stopping.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
Guess it depends where yur at eh? S pacific seems to grow? Dolphins drinking too much?


either way the whole package again points to holes in "global warming theories" . Just like the fish folks who thought CO2 increase would diminish health of reef fish, and bingo bongo just the opposite has occurred.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
Yer funny but yu need to fix yer links. You could just be making this sh#t up - like the Dolphins drinking......How bout showing us a stuffed Links?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
Oh they are a rising,just wait a few minutes........ha
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