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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 2, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
Personally when this discussion devolves into insults and name calling it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If I am the one ranting, I later feel embarrassment. We can argue much more effectively if the discussion doesn't descend into stupidity.

Taxes-never been audited-probably paid much more than required, certainly in total as much as a lot peoples lifetime incomes. I always believed it was a patriotic thing to do in giving back to the system that allowed one the freedom to succeed. But, after decades of viewing the escalation in wholesale government waste i much prefer to give to highly effective people in position, and of the mind, to improve the standards-usually in education. I gladly take the tax deduction.

Irrational acceptance of CAGW alarmism isn't the sole trait of one party or another of the political divide. Our federal politicians show plenty of collective stupidity. The scheme gained traction first under papa Bush. Below is a link to testimonials from five of the very few scientists out of the total that the so called 97% consensus of AGW was based. Very interesting-what they have to say.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/05/97-study-falsely-classifies-scientists.html





Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 2, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
cuz YUR side

So sad....

DMT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
Ron, that item is beautiful, and proud.
Spitzer

climber
Aug 2, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
Personally when this discussion devolves into insults and name calling it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If I am the one ranting, I later feel embarrassment. We can argue much more effectively if the discussion doesn't descend into stupidity.

The reason for the name calling here could be global warming, LOL.

"Tempers flare as temperatures rise — across the globe and throughout human history, researchers have found. The result is consistent with a growing body of research suggesting that climate change somehow incites human conflict."

http://www.nature.com/news/warming-climate-drives-human-conflict-1.13464
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Aug 2, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
We can argue much more effectively if the discussion doesn't descend into stupidity.

Your propensity for stupidity explains why you are one of the least effective "arguers" here.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 2, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
Why are scientists so stupid ignoring pollution you can see and freaking out over invisible carbon dioxide?
Answer: $

Oh the irony!

In terms of the pollution we can see? Science has already 'put out.' We the People KNOW how to clean up the pollution we can see, for the most part.

Know what political group stands in the way of significant pollution reduction progress???

THE SAME F*#KING PARTY THAT STANDS IN THE WAY OF CLIMATE CHANGE MITIGATION.

That's right. This is another form of the 2-step shuffle of the corporate dogs and their masters.

DMT
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Aug 2, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
More of your so called irrational feds.

She is quoted as relying on NASA's stance.http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/interior-secretary-wants-no-climate-change-deniers-in

Again,more science to not believe.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 2, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
On a positive note I bring you this old news, and it's on topic too.

http://energyindepth.org/national/u-s-takes-the-gold-in-co2-reductions-thanks-to-shale/

dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Aug 2, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
Global warming has evolved women into hotties. Just look at pics from 100yrs
ago and today. No argument. Bring on the heat.

http://goodstuffsworld.blogspot.com/2013/01/global-warming-and-hot-women.html
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 2, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#312885

BTW, Anderson, it's .8C. Why you blather on and on about .09 is beyond me.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Aug 2, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
I hate intentionally stupid people.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Aug 2, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
Rong/Chuff 2015

Rong answers stated authoritatively are better than science
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Aug 2, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
hahaaaa, Rong thinks stupidtaco, and what he types here, is relevant. hahahaaaaaaa.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Aug 2, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
Funny to drop in here after spending the day actually doing science. Our social constructionists have built a whole different reality, especially about science itself.

Is there a consensus? Pretty much all research scientists know there's a strong one on the reality of anthropogenic climate change. They know about this consensus because they listen and talk to their colleagues, they go to meetings, they read journals, they analyze their own data, and they understand how it all works. Most importantly they can think for themselves, and place great stock in that quality.

How 'bout if you're not a scientist? Well you could do what Rick does and read blogs by polemicists who you know will support your beliefs. Choose them right and you'll hear scores of reasons not to believe those scientists you don't want to believe.

A braver option, even for a nonscientist, might be to dip a toe in the water by checking out a few journals -- not articles highlighted by someone else who said they'll support what you want to believe; instead choose the most recent issue of any journal, hundreds to choose from, that you think might have a core interest in this topic. Scan the titles, check out a few abstracts, it's free.

For example, I've been looking at the International Journal of Climatology over the past month. Here's a page that lists all the articles lined up for forthcoming print issues. Scan it and judge for yourself, is there a consensus?

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1002/%28ISSN%291097-0088/earlyview
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 2, 2013 - 10:03pm PT


LOL, Chief finds some surface waters that are cooler while the deep ocean continues to warm. Whoop Whoop
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 2, 2013 - 10:17pm PT
^^The chief is having issues confusing weather with climate^^

Which contrarian are you going with Chief?

Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Aug 2, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
I'm actually shocked that people are still responding to the chuff with more than insults. Whatever, the rest of you get an A for effort... and an F for meaningful use of your time. I get straight F's.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 3, 2013 - 12:02am PT
You gotta go deep, Chief.

Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Aug 3, 2013 - 12:46am PT
Doing drugs makes baby Jesus cry.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 3, 2013 - 12:46am PT
So are all those scientific graphs proving a direct correlation with the burning of fossil fuels?
Or could it have something to do with the sun, or the earths core, or the spinning of the galaxy, etc. ?

Jus wondering, did you drive a car today?
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