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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 26, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
by and large maladjusted, antisocial, sex starved ,(ticked off the first three by age 16) college dropouts"



You forgot to add the most important qualifier Rick....


And Proud of It
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 26, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
I think that Roper quote was a joke Dick... but nice job living up to it anyhow.

Most climbers I know are well adjusted, quite social, get plenty of sex, and well educated. But clearly there are some dicks out there who fall short.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 26, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
I don't remember that being in his book Bruce. Very well, i'll try to dig up a copy to see, after all their is a need to strictly conform, isn't there?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 26, 2013 - 11:17pm PT
Fixed it for you buddy

after all there is a need to non conform, isn't their?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 26, 2013 - 11:17pm PT
well rick,

you are still young enough to get some more education, right?

I mean, never too late for learning critical thinking, logic, basic stuff like that, etc

what do they say, more education usually means more income over a lifetime?

but hey, not everyone is cut out for it....

plenty of jobs out there don't require much education to do

common sense goes a long way, right?
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 26, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
Rick were you born on third base and think you hit a triple? I ask that because those who inherit wealth without working for it tend to be SELFISH.

Adam Smith (founder of capitalism) also believed an integral part of capitalism was that those who became successful could pass on the fruits of their labor to their offspring---but not so much could be passed on that the offspring forgot the value of labor...

Climate Change is happening around us in different localities everyday--from record snow in New York today to record snow in the midwest in early May etc etc ---the snow doesn't mean the earth is not warming--It does mean that the climate is changing
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 26, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
Thanks Bruce-you would think that somebody that had written 3 books could get the simple right.

Norton, I am at loose ends in semi-retirement and know that full retirement would be intolerable. School, ahh a luxury to satisfy a vanity, whats the point at this point. Reason (common sense) will only get you so far in understanding science or this counter intuitive culture.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 26, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
plenty of jobs out there don't require much education to do

common sense goes a long way, right


Probably why 53% of recent college graduates end up on their States Socialists Support Program. Unemployed. Aint that correct Wetchrisp. No hard skills and afraid to get their hands all calloused and torn up.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/53-of-recent-college-grads-are-jobless-or-underemployed-how/256237/
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 26, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
"counter intuitive culture"
and yours...............counter factual culture












Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 26, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
BASE,Whats with the graph you posted yesterday?Was it tornado sounding/tracking?

The mysterious Base post. I'm still not sure if that was a run of the mill tephi ( the Chief would know certainly) but I'm really curious about the assertion that global warming as we know it will be most focused on the lower layer and how that would effect the vertical stability status quo. Anybody who flies a wing is tuned into tephigrams like a surfer is with swell charts and it all has to do with environmental vs. adiabatic lapse rates. Relative humidities too i suppose.

Seems to me ( ignorant stooge that I am) that the "increased storm intensity" is intrinsically tied to this theory. Then there is the whole jet stream buckle / omega blocks thing.

There is a guy here who posts as hoser who is just wrapping up a big deal meteorology something or other. It would be great if he climbed down out of his new ivory tower to illuminate the stooge masses a bit with some meteorolgy basics and what his egg head instructors think what the latest climate change theory implies in that regard.

Or maybe The Chief could enlighten us?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 26, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
Reason (common sense) will only get you so far in understanding science

exactly!

and that is why more education would greatly help you understand "science"!

seriously rick, you are NOT too old to sharpen your intellect

please reconsider getting some more education
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 26, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
Bruce ,i know the machine/device is made in rochester,i know a few people at harris,but this kind of thing bugs me .Like our friend ed had said,i like to stay engaged,i do not know it all.

Always willing to learn.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 26, 2013 - 11:58pm PT
Rick - I'll ask again : How do you tell the difference between intuition and prejudice?


I realize its one of those questions that gives you hives but, well.... to tell you the truth that is the precise reason I ask it.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 27, 2013 - 12:03am PT
Yep, that's right Chaff. I've been working since I was 11. I've never received a penny of aid from any government.

Why don't you admit it, you are just upset because I solve partial differential equations in my sleep, measure stable isotopes in countless materials, understand statistics... and STILL build a bombproof deck, landscape my yard, wire my house, fix my car, and solve my neighbor's groundwater problem. Plus I climb harder than you and have a hotter girlfriend. Not to mention I'm over 5'4".
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 27, 2013 - 12:13am PT
And you Norton, what are your degrees? Isn't somebody allowed to learn out of school, say here or by independent study. Does pursuit of understanding not count without the pedigree?
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 27, 2013 - 12:18am PT
chief why are you trying to bully weschrist?? Good for you standing up for yourself weschrist!!

Chief you are quick to answer a question about your military background with an admittedly cool (IMO--but I love our boys, just not the people sending them in to battle).

However Chief you fail to answer any questions about the "latte drinking city dwelling yuppies" or any questions about you living in a "backwoods commune" is that because you find it hard to defend your lifestyle after bashing similar lifestyles? Are you ashamed of your own children who have chosen a different path in life than you??

Would your children be ashamed of your SELFISH, CAVEMAN IDEOLOGY much in the same way hippie kids were ashamed of their grandparents racism??

By the way I'm picking on you BECAUSE you think your the biggest, baddest dude in the neighborhood...but I really know your WEAK. Nothing will make me think different until you GROW UP---I am comfortable to sink to your level as I came from the bottom of the barrel.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 27, 2013 - 12:18am PT
In this context it dosn't matter what degrees Norton holds as he dosn't have the outrageous gall as to misrepresent his abilities. You on the other hand, do.

All you have is something that you call intuition.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 27, 2013 - 12:43am PT
Would your children be ashamed

My children are in the mid to late 30's. Grown and doing their own life gigs. Two of the three tell me time and time again that I am a nut for arguing with folks as yourselves. The lead by the way has a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology. She visits periodically to relax and regenerate. All three admire the fact that I do not partake much in matters of the world. Ashamed? Nope. They completely understand and respect the fact that I have Bigger Flies to Tie.

Now, how about the Lindzen paper and follow-up stuff I posted this morning regarding "Clouds" and cooling. Substantiated by two follow up peer reved pubed papers and Lindzen himself.

Bully Wetcrisp. Nope. Unless he feels such. Sounds like a personal issue actually. But he sure does spend a buttload of time here on ST for someone that is gainfully employed.

I'm over 5'4"
Yvon Chouinard and plenty others are NOT. SFW!

BECAUSE you think your the biggest, baddest dude in the neighborhood...but I really know your WEAK.

You surely must partake in that GCC modelling crap. Right. Cus you know nada about me and are way off just like them 40 plus models. Stop perceiving kid.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 27, 2013 - 12:56am PT
Yeah chief about that paper, Ed claims it is refuted, end of story, but i've seen other things to the contrary. Can you elaborate?
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 27, 2013 - 01:05am PT
Chief If your a bigger man than I and have bigger flies to tie then why aren't you blasting the people responsible for putting OUR COUNTRY in the position it is in??? It isn't Weschrist who is living off of socialism...it is the corporate institutions who cheated, lied, stole from us...

Don't get back on this thread again and pretend your not a bully when you pull sh#t like that. YOU ARE A WARRIOR and ARE BETTER THAN THAT...the eagle is our symbol for a REASON---we don't prey on carrion (the weak or dying) we go into battle against the strongest we can face and are confident of the outcome because in our heart of hearts we know we are CHAMPIONS---Your daughter if pressed probably would admit that YOU and ME are both crazy to some degree.

Everybody has peaks and valleys in life (me and you included) weschrist may be in one but I believe he is strong enough to get out of it. I am a bleeding heart but I don't give money to beggars on the street if they are able bodied and of a sound mind...I give a hand up (if I can). My aunt was GIVEN polio by the VACCINE but she never had anything but a smile on her face and a cheerful attitude even though I would consider her life SH#T it doesn't matter what my opinion is---only what she thinks---same as my opinion doesn't matter to you--but I will listen to yours and find things that I can use to make myself stronger...debating you is making me stronger just because I don't like selfish bullies and you are that picture in my mind for this period of time...a gym company fell that way---they thought they were stronger too.....................................
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