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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Is it me, or is it really true that all the deniers are strong Faux News enthusiasts?
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 22, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
I think Ron works for FAUX News doing research and fact checking--it's a pretty cush job and he gets to telecommute to boot!!

I have an experiment for you to try at home Ron:

You need two glasses, water, ice, tape, magic marker, notebook, pen and paper towels.

Step one fill one glass with ice to the top but NOT over the top of the glass then fill that glass with water to the rim. Label this glass Sea Ice

Step two fill the other glass with ice to the top and add water then continue putting ice in the glass going over the rim as high as you can. Label this glass Continental Ice

Step three wait for the ice to melt and write down what you observe.

I look forward to your observations!!

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
busy workin on pieces.. lion,, i already answered yur question.. make yur own point or dont. im not going to do it for you. begging continually wont change the result.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
welcome to the NFL, mountainlion


maddening, eh?

ron will simply wear you out, he has more stamina to not correct himself than you do to keep posting

soon enough you will learn to accept this.

resistance is futile......
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
Norton ,you seem to be correct ,sir.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
funny, ive already posted a host of link titles regarding falling ocean levels ,,, is this MIC on?? testing two, three four,,PFFFFFFFPPHHHHFT two three four..
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 06:45pm PT
You probably mean the rate of increase in ocean levels is falling. There's hardly any way the levels themselves can be falling. That is outright silly, unless somebody pulled the plug down there.

Even with no glacier melt the oceans expand as they heat, but they could contract back some as the feedback of cold water from icemelt flows back into them.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
take yer pick:



80% of South Pacific islands are not flooding/sinking, they are growing in size link

Sea level rise has average 6 inches per century, no rate of increase has been observed. link

Sea level rise follows natural oscillations (Duke University) link

The rate of sea level rise has decreased 34 percent in the last decade. link

Sea level rise slowing down link

NOAA, no acceleration in sea level rise. link

Sea level rise has slowed the last seven years. Ed Caryl Link

Sea Level rise is slowing down. Klaus-Eckart Puls link

Relationship between solar activity and sea level. David Archibald link

Sea levels have been declining for the past 2 years link

NASA says sea levels are falling. link

NASA says sea level dropped in 2010 link

Island of Tuvalu and other Pacific Islands, are they threatened with sea rise? link

NOAA tidal gages shows sea level rise is averaging only 1.85 inches per century link

Sea level rise from polar ice melt is not a likely threat


McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
see what I mean? At least 3 out of 4 there say the rate is slowing, the rising itself is not stopping.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
Guess it depends where yur at eh? S pacific seems to grow? Dolphins drinking too much?


either way the whole package again points to holes in "global warming theories" . Just like the fish folks who thought CO2 increase would diminish health of reef fish, and bingo bongo just the opposite has occurred.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
Yer funny but yu need to fix yer links. You could just be making this sh#t up - like the Dolphins drinking......How bout showing us a stuffed Links?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
Oh they are a rising,just wait a few minutes........ha
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
Prolly all the viagra flowing into them.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
I have a theory, when Rosie ODonnel goes to another destination, there is a sudden jolt in the earths axis allowing un natural sun penetration in the arctic region of the globe, and causes depth readings of oceans to fluctuate..
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
It's either that ,or we are drinking more....
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
Ron, it's cause you guys got into the lifeboats. :>)

Greenland and Antarctica will rise as their glaciers melt, but that could be the Viagra too.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
It's all because of commi's,giving a shyt, like me.No corporate sponsorship,too fun luvin,self employed,son of a ww2 vet types.



HA HA HA!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 07:18pm PT



Here is a good example of what I am talking about: CIRCULAR REASONING


Circular reasoning (also known as paradoxical thinking[citation needed] or circular logic), is a logical fallacy in which "the reasoner begins with what he or she is trying to end up with".[1] The individual components of a circular argument will sometimes be logically valid because if the premises are true, the conclusion must be true, and will not lack relevance. Circular logic cannot prove a conclusion because, if the conclusion is doubted, the premise which leads to it will also be doubted.[2] Begging the question is a form of circular reasoning.[3]

Circular reasoning is often of the form: "a is true because b is true; b is true because a is true." Circularity can be difficult to detect if it involves a longer chain of propositions. Academic Douglas Walton used the following example of a fallacious circular argument:

Wellington is in New Zealand.
Therefore, Wellington is in New Zealand.[4]

although the argument is deductively valid, it cannot prove that Wellington is in New Zealand because it contains no evidence that is distinct from the conclusion. The context that of an argument means that the proposition does not meet the requirement of proving the statement, thus it is a fallacy.
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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 07:22pm PT
and very frequently on this thread attempts at rational discourse are destroyed by this rascal:


A polysyllogism (also called multi-premise syllogism, sorites, climax, or gradatio) is a string of any number of propositions forming together a sequence of syllogisms such that the conclusion of each syllogism, together with the next proposition, is a premise for the next, and so on. Each constituent syllogism is called a prosyllogism except the very last, because the conclusion of the last syllogism is not a premise for another syllogism. For example:

It is raining.
If we go out while it is raining we will get wet.
If we get wet, we will get cold.
Therefore, if we go out we will get cold.

NOT TRUE, but this is used VERY effectively to convince yourself that you are right about something
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
Breaking out gateway drugs.
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