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Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Aug 1, 2013 - 02:48pm PT
HAMWEATHER is now not worthy. Unbelievable.

Who ever said it was not worthy?

You said:

NOAA released last weeks "Record Temperature Events"

And I corrected you... it ain't from NOAA. Try unwinding your panties a bit and learn to read.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Aug 1, 2013 - 03:08pm PT
Can you guys please get your scientists straightened out, they seem to be all over the board and indeed overboard in this rat infested sinking ship of CAGW.

Rick reliably exhibits a tinfoil-hat comprehension of science. The reality-based community understands science is dynamic by its nature for non-conspiratorial reasons. Frinstance, Ed cites (and Rick tinfoil-hats) a 2010 article in Nature suggesting that low albedo could resolve the faint sun paradox. Since then other scientists have run the numbers and disagreed, as in this NASA group:

We show that, even with the strongest plausible assumptions, reducing cloud and surface albedos falls short by a factor of two of resolving the paradox,” say Goldlatt and Zahnle.

So the paradox is alive and well; and more puzzling than ever. Last year we discovered that a greenhouse effect can’t explain the paradox. Now we know that a lower albedo wouldn’t have done the trick either.

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/424154/faint-young-sun-paradox-not-solved-says-nasa/

We could go farther with this topic though I know that reality can't dent Rick's conspiracy views.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 1, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
Yep, when the arctic ice is not reachable, the polar bears will just "party" (AndersonSpeak) with the brown bears, like nothing happened.

And the reef fish whose reef degrades and even disappears, well they just "party" in place.

(leaky submarine reply from Anderson in 3....2....1....)
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 1, 2013 - 03:47pm PT
Huff-n-Chuff, still dumber than dirt I see.

And who determines which scientist they employ?

Well numbnutz, I DO, for one. Hired one this week. Ed does for another. Along with the thousands of other GS supervisors who employ scientists in their agencies.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 1, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
What are the odds that mini Garcia would be here to make his opponents miserable- i've heard something in the neighborhood 10 to the 80th against such a proposition. Yet here you are-intelligent design at or before the big bang-no one can refute one way or another. All you have to do to assure a bright future is convince enough of your friends ,who go on to convince their friends, to ignore or fight the doom and gloom and carry on in your best possible effort. Nature decides our fate as a species not man.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 1, 2013 - 11:03pm PT
Exactly Ed Garcia, don't believe everything you think! The policies you relentlessly push, then repeatedly deny, could well destroy our now fragile world economy and render the planet uninhabitable to the present population.You as an egghead are out of your depth in economics.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 1, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
Vostok ice core and Greenland temp data are not global average temperature.

They and many other proxy sources are used in the Marcott, Mann and other reconstructions of global average temp.

It's the spike in global average temp that is unprecedented, not the fluctuations of individual points on earth.


http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2013/03/new-hockey-stick-graph-...
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2013/03/new-hockey-stick-graph-scarier
Credit: monolith
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 2, 2013 - 12:05am PT
Yes, if you have done well in this country it is patriotic to give back to the system that allowed it. I certainly do as well Norton. There comes a point though, when you say enough is enough after witnessing decades of the uncontrolled waste of tax dollars. At this point i would rather, and in fact do, give what i can to highly effective people i know can spend judiciously-usually schools-and gladly take the exemption. Aren't you getting a little wound up Norton, this is after all just an internet discussion. Ron's a good guy, what you had to say crossed all reasonable lines.

And Ron, you don't need to stick your neck out to cover my back. It is unnecessary and only leads to you catching flack.
abrams

Sport climber
Aug 2, 2013 - 12:24am PT
Credit: abrams

air pollution and deforestation from overgrazing combined with
world wide sources of vehicle and factory soot would be the smart
target to bring under control rather than CO2.

Don't know how many of you get the dusting duty around your homes but
consider all the worlds glaciers are getting this fallout non stop and each

particle is acting like a little toaster oven that will never stop melting
the ice until its pushed out the toe.



http://juneauempire.com/stories/042408/sta_271769319.shtml




BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 2, 2013 - 12:53am PT

Aug 1, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
well Ron,

unlike you, I actually review what I post and if I find I said something not intended I take it out.

Since I don't know for sure if Rick is white or not, I reconsidered and deleted that, so fuking what.

You ought to try it sometime, make sure you mean what you say instead of blurting out all your bullsh!t that others here constantly call you "rong" about.

What?

And YOU Ron Anderson who I would guess does not pay a dime in Federal income tax due to your pathetically low pigeon stuffing income have somehow a problem with the fact that I once mentioned, and you bothered to remember, that my wife and I choose to donate extra to the Treasury General Fund every year?

Ah wait, you are jealous of the fact that I have so damn much money I can just give it away to my government, boo!
Really bothers you doesn't?

I do it out of patriotism, it came from a lifetime of working with my brain so go fuk yourself.

And speaking of my patriotism, I wish you were there next to me in the jungle 40 years ago being "patriotic", you miserable low life son of a b!tch

WOW For some the climate never changes
command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Aug 2, 2013 - 01:08am PT
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Gobi-Desert-Dust-China-Southern-California-Sierra-Nevada-Owens-Valley-200760831.html

Why are scientists so stupid ignoring pollution you can see and freaking out over invisible carbon dioxide?
Answer: $


BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 2, 2013 - 01:14am PT
^ U r 2 Burchey

That's even more funnier
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Aug 2, 2013 - 04:42am PT
thanks for your service Norton!! and you to Chief!!

Ron have you served?

if not don't put down Norton...

just a guess but if Norton fought in Vietnam I don't have much to say other than THANKS...but I acknowledge he and all the others deserve our respect...so give it...

THANKS FOR BEING A PATRIOT----I HAVE BENEFITED---AND HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED UP TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Aug 2, 2013 - 09:45am PT
These free loaders don't even want to pay taxes? More confirmation they think they are a country of one. Greedy bastards doing good for none, hoping for a collapse so their vermin can thrive like roaches, LOL!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 2, 2013 - 09:48am PT
The country was founded by tax cheats, you know. George Washington, the first President (yall remember that shizzle?)? He ordered the US Army into Pennsylvania to make moonshiners HEEL and pay their goddamned taxes, AFTER fighting a war with the British Tax Lords for refusing to pay THEIR Vik. PA pussies fled to Tennessee and Kentucky... Makers Mark, Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, Wild Turkey... direct result.

Drunken, uneducated, white trash, ignorant tax dodging hillbillies, with a history of raping mother nature as some kind of tweaker manifest destiny.

My kenfolk.

DMT
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 2, 2013 - 11:31am PT
Yeah Anderson, those AFB's sound like nasty, brutal places. The px store must have been particularly dangerous.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 2, 2013 - 11:34am PT
Ron you purposely squirt lighter fluid on threads and then pretend to complain when you get personal reactions.

I think you LIKE IT.

DMT
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 2, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
Google search Oath Keepers. Lot's of info about them. A Tea Party favorite.

http://www.motherjones.com/slideshows/2010/02/oath-keepers-glenn-beck-tea-party-military/guardians-of-republic

http://www.alternet.org/story/145769/the_oath_keepers%3A_the_militant_and_armed_side_of_the_tea_party_movement

[Oath Keepers] one of the fastest-growing "patriot" organizations on the right. Founded in April 2009 by Yale-educated lawyer and ex-Ron Paul aide Stewart Rhodes, the group has established itself as a hub in the sprawling anti-Obama movement that includes Tea Partiers, Birthers, and 912ers. Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, and Pat Buchanan have all sung its praises
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 2, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
Maybe for you Ron but you do seem to like it like that and encourage it. Contrast that to the contributions of Ed and Chloe.

DMT
dirtbag

climber
Aug 2, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
I have a few tokens like that in a drawer, leftover from my nephew's birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese's.
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