Again, stick with what we should or shouldn't do about it as you're completely lost on this ground. What's 'intolerable' is in the eye of the beholder, what's plausible over a fifty year span debatable, that we should sit around and further compound and exacerbate the problem is ignorance.
Well alright then. I thank you Chief for stepping up and posting verification of your military service. You could easily (and some would say probably should have) blown off the mud-raking.
I won't thank you for your service because I cannot agree with the reasons for that service, buuut, I will most definitely apologize for calling you a liar. It would appear you did not lie about this and that is something of a relief to me.
There are a few things that don't add up concerning your Record of Service (which I can read perfectly well) and statements you made here, but whatever.
As stated previously, that does not excuse your being a total assh0le on this thread. Nor does it in any way validate your ridiculous and unsubstantiated position. But it certainly means you are not the dishonorable fückwad I assumed you to be. Rather, you are just a bit of an idiot and internet bully. Also, you are way shorter than you claim. Personally I do not feel this is the problem you seem to feel it is.
I do have to ask: do you think your behavior here does credit to the Navy? Do you think this is representative of the values and mores of military service?
BTW, you may wish to remove this document. Your attempts to block out your SSN and other information were rather unsuccessful.
Now that that is over... we can continue with this tasty interaction.
Now that that is over... we can continue with this tasty interaction.
Why?
You still don't get it..... principal.
The exact same reason I gave 24 years of my life in the service to this Nation and YOU!
Now, shall we continue.
As stated previously, that does not excuse your being a total assh0le on this thread. Nor does it in any way validate your ridiculous and unsubstantiated position. But it certainly means you are not the dishonorable f*#kwad I assumed you to be. Rather, you are just a bit of an idiot and internet bully. Also, you are way shorter than you claim. Personally I do not feel this is the problem you seem to feel it is.
I am glad that you approve. Cus the above is the exact reason I continue on this thread. Yours and the others persistence in demonizing me and anyone else that comes on here countering yours and the other BS claims.
As far as my height, do I now have to post my CA Lic and Retired Mil ID to confirm that I 68" tall??
WTF is with all of you and you insistence on criticizes someones height?
What next, my weight and then I will have to post my Birth Cert?
Do you really hold the position that we don't benefit from science?
In some cases yes.
But the fact remains, life, yours, mine, everyones is only temporal at best. What Werner posts on regular basis here is much along the lines in the manner I live my life and have done so for a long time.
I live each day as it my last... to the fullest.
You, me, all of us are all gonna die any day. When and how, no one knows. That is reality.
Stop trying to control that which you can not nor ever will.
Investing in the future is ok. Trying to control it is futile at best. Saying that one can is arrongance far beyond that what Khamon accuses me of.
You may wish to acquire a mirror.
I am not the one selling the product. You are.
I am the one saying get that shet outta my face and stop trying to peddle me bullshet and insisting I have to buy to it in order to save the world and the future of my kids and all that happy bs.
Well this is the divide where we part ways. The principle of exclusive individual liberty is fundamentally immoral. It is jn its purest form, Darwinian survival of the fittest. It is classic warrior code so I'm not surprised that you subscribe to it.
But it is hypocritical. You say that you spent the past 25 years in our service, but it turns out you actually served a principle, not us. Is this correct?
The principal I served was to maintain the freedom and liberty to think, act and speak as one wishes without the consequences and demonizing that so many of you have imposed on me and anyone else that has come to this thread and shared their opposition to it's premise.
Now, if you can't understand that concept of principal, than you truly have no idea what it is like to have restrictions imposed on your freedoms and liberties.
Again, I aint the one selling the product. You all are.
fundamentally immoral.
By your standards of social behavior maybe. Not mine nor many of my kind.
Emerson's "Self-Reliance" is an example of how I choose to live. Read it and you just may learn something.
From Cliff notes:
"Outlining his reasons for objecting to conformity, Emerson asserts that acquiescing to public opinion wastes a person's life. Those around you never get to know your real personality. Even worse, the time spent maintaining allegiances to "communities of opinion" saps the energy needed in the vital act of creation — the most important activity in our lives — and distracts us from making any unique contribution to society. Conformity corrupts with a falseness that pervades our lives and our every action: ". . . every truth is not quite true." Finally, followers of public opinion are recognized as hypocrites even by the awkwardness and falsity of their facial expressions.
What appears to be inconsistency is often a misunderstanding based on distortion or perspective. Emerson develops this idea by comparing the progress of a person's thoughts to a ship sailing against the wind: In order to make headway, the ship must tack, or move in a zigzag line that eventually leads to an identifiable end. In the same way, an individual's apparently contradictory acts or decisions show consistency when that person's life is examined in its entirety and not in haphazard segments. We must "scorn appearances" and do what is right or necessary, regardless of others' opinions or criticisms.
Society is not the measure of all things; the individual is. "A true man," Emerson's label for the ideal individual, "belongs to no other time or place, but is the centre of all things. Where he is, there is nature." Nature is not only those objects around us, but also our individual natures. And these individual natures allow the great thinker — the ideal individual — to battle conformity and consistency."
Many today state that science is now the fundamental guidance of modern society. To accept it and all that it determines necessary in order to exist is paramount in pertaining to society.
Yes. You and "your kind" I find to be fundamentally weak in the morality department. This concept of "self reliance" is all very noble and even healthy and useful but in the context of a civil society it is limited. If you consider yourself connected spiritually and practically with your society there is a distinct limitation to the application of "self reliance".
This is the bone, something that you have shown before, that i have to pick with you. And once again it demonstrates a hypocricy or irrationality. If you really don't give a sh#t about anybody but yourself, then what are you doing here? If you actually don't give a sh#t about us or anybody other than yourself, why bother risking your neck rescuing them? Clearly you do give a sh#t. If so, do you really think that we should all just be "self reliant"? that is our best method for advancing our situation? You really think that human kind is incapable of a collective effort to advance our collective interests?
And yet you wear a pair of jeans and communicate with a computer?
Let us know!