I like this thread because there are some very bright people here who post scientific data that backs up the claims that humans are indeed affecting the climate in ways that negatively impact the species living on this planet.
Acidification of the oceans is just one small example.
I appreciate people who pose arguments that counter the assertions made by the climatologists. While mostly untawdry in nature, they do further the conversations, and we get folks like Ed, Chiloe, and others who chime in to show how the science works.
However, when a person is who shown the how the science works replies by attacking the foundation of science itself, then we've come to an impasse. To me, it seems The Chief is here here only to entice bad will and start arguments. I am growing very weary of his name calling and obstinance.
Is there any way we can remove this disingenuous person from this thread? I mean, he simultaneously posts "scientific" data at the same time he denounces science in screaming rants.
I'm all for the 1st amendment, but I am against being called names for concurring with hard science.
Oh, k-man, it seems my recently posted quote on another thread - from douglas hofstadter- might be equally apropos here?
it’s a very bizarre mixture of ideas that are solid and good with ideas that are crazy. It’s as if you took a lot of very good food and some dog excrement and blended it all up so that you can’t possibly figure out what’s good or bad.”
Public internet forums - they're here to stay. For better and worse.
But when a belligerent joins a conversation, and that person doesn't care to constructively move the discussion forward, those who want to continue the good discussion should find ways to close out the belligerent.
That said, perhaps the goal of this thread has been reached. It's bee shown over and over how hard science has proven AWG exists. And, as has been shown, big business and insurance companies are structuring their business models accordingly.
While it's out of my realm to propose actions to address the problem, I will say that it's high time for our world leaders to begin leading on this issue so we can hope to have a world in which we want our children to live.
While 1/2 of the Arctic summer sea ice is gone, it is only 1/2 as thick, leaving just 1/4 of the ice by volume. In less than 4 years the rest could be lost.
Arctic "death spiral" leaves climate scientists shocked and worried
A "radical shift" is plunging the Arctic Ocean towards an ice-free state for the first time in millions of years. One of the world's foremost ice experts, Professor Peter Wadhams of Cambridge University, calls it a "global disaster" that will cause such a big boost in global temperatures that even such extreme measures as geo-engineering need to be considered urgently.
So your BS theory just got blown to shet, KC-135 boy
Boy? Who you callin' boy? You stand about as high as my nutsack, Popeye the sailorman. I'll say one thing for the USAF, they never made us wear no queer lookin sh#t like you got on there. Them bell bottoms, ya'll going to war or the Disco? Notice how the officers don't wear that silly lookin sh#t? Tween them condom hats and bell bottoms and village people look, ya'll could be a walkin AIDs awareness commerical.
It's right funny too how you gotta call it in all inches to make it sound bigger. 53, 54 tops, Popeye.
My bad on perpetutin the non german ramble and offtopic stuff. I'll take a break for this moran Chief gets me riled.
That Chief hangs around with basketball teams I reckon. Or maybe they're all from Lake Woebegon where every kid is above average, you know Bein that's he's "average height" an all:
Somehow "avg height" means always the shortest little napolean on the scene. Hardy har har. Ok for real I gotta get outta here, I stopped on them other forums cause it was all bullshittin and no real stuff and I ain't helping the cause.
Chief, you're way ahead in the game when you say the planet is warming, there is nothing to be done about it, so get over it. The minute you drop into the science you lose all credibility.
If you stick with that then you maintain enough credibility to the debate the point of whether there really is nothing to be done about it and what society's response as "getting over it" should be. But on the science front? You're just in way over your head.
Kind of ironic to see that trampling of the dessert with a big-ass truck. Hmm...
Bigass Truck?
Dude, that is my Wife's rig and the A-Hills aint no pristine wilderness desert. Not at all near what you do in that jacked up wanna-be Sportmobile Van of yours and what you do when heading out onto virgin pristine desert.
Besides, I never proclaimed to be the holier than thou eco freak as you repeatedly have.
WOW!
Ya'll are giving my employer (who btw is 6'6") free advertisement... love it.
If you stick with that then you maintain enough credibility to the debate the point of whether there really is nothing to be done
The fact is any sort of taxation or geoengineering is not a tolerable solution. Even humans were at part at fault.
Every post chief chihuahua makes increases the amount he will have to pay.
"We still have formidable challenges before us, but each day we wait, the challenge becomes harder. Every year of delay adds 500 billion US dollars to the cost of action," Tanaka said.
Let us know!