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Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 26, 2013 - 08:51am PT
The Chief has crashed his plane into the mountain. Nothing matters. It's all over. Instead of honestly addressing the issues, it is yet another shift to how pointless it all is in the face of overpopulation. Reflexively going firebrand on a legitimate plan (i.e. dismantling a dead dam) because ultimately it's all so pointless, and, well, he really can't keep a straight line in an argument anyway. But, offishur, I was walking a straight line!

Did you wipe the tears off your keyboard after that last one, The Chief? Or do you dramatically hold a hanky in true tele preacher style to dab off the tears as they fall?

Take a deep breath, The Chief. You are just a guy with a keyboard connected to a special interest website, you are not actually in charge of the billions and billions of people.

Yes, like the major "news" outlets, it's only entertainment (just barely). I'm just glad I don't have to wake up to the pocket megalomaniac and fix him eggs in the morning ;).
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 26, 2013 - 08:53am PT
Actually, Huntington Beach gets most of our water from wells and the rest from the Colorado,

Its not surprising that many native Californians have no firm grasp on where the water comes from (or goes to). Oh they sure will preach about it though!

This is an interesting page - 'where does my water come from?'

http://www.water-ed.org/watersources/community.asp?rid=9&cid=522#SWP

Outsiders tend to think of LA as SoCal, and tend to think of SoCal as one giant faucet. Lol.

No. Water politics are pretty much bigger'n any of us. With the fractured nature of local government control a single water authority has eluded us here in California. Without that unification, various interest groups end up fighting bitterly over every single drop of unclaimed water - virtually statewide.

Its one of those 'just the way it is' situations.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 26, 2013 - 09:00am PT
Instead of honestly addressing the issues, it is yet another shift to how pointless it all is in the face of overpopulation.

Assume its true. Assume its 'giving up.'

Why continue the discussion, then? Might as well be talking to someone's back, or hand?

DMT
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 26, 2013 - 09:07am PT
If you say so, brah. I act plenty. It's called living.

My major point is it's hard to follow the logic of somebody who comes off as a cranky crackpot who can't even keep a straight line on I-5. Especially when compared against people who don't dribble out malapropisms like "gubbermint" and "scientism" and who sound like they may actually know how to collect, measure, and consider the evidence. Clean up your bikini line, The Chief, and maybe people won't just laugh at you when you go to the beach.


Why continue the discussion, then? Might as well be talking to someone's back, or hand?

I answered that already, Dingus. Cheap entertainment ;).

A moosedrool style collection of zingers on this thread would be a hit!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 26, 2013 - 09:08am PT
See what I mean?

DMT
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 26, 2013 - 09:30am PT
Yes, I feel like I'm living. It beats fuming. But if your rich fantasy life gives you joy, I say go for it.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 26, 2013 - 10:18am PT
You really don't know what you're talking about as regards my life, The Chief ;). In fact, seeing how hilariously flawed your snap judgments are in that regard is part of why I don't trust the entirety of your philosophizing. Your style of thinking is probably better grounded in a firm basis of military protocol to keep you from spazzing out towards the fringes.

You're leaving the fishing here for more fishing? Is that all you do? Retirement rocks!

I'll be fishing for some climbing the next three days. And I'll actually be gone three days! Man, I thought we were promised a five day vay kay from your dispensations. Tragedy!!!!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 26, 2013 - 10:19am PT
Ed,, since they are going after the major power companies to get them to trap the co@ and carbons emitted from their plants, and wood is known as a CO2 sponge Could a simple effective means of screening be achieved through the use of something like wood chips? Sometimes they miss the plainly obvious..
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Jun 26, 2013 - 11:24am PT
I used to live in Huntington--Gary great place to live!!

As far as where our water came from---I watched a science program that says it came from comets and asteroids with ice on them impacting the earth...

Overpopulation is a real problem...unfortunately the Catholic religeon doesn't believe in contraception (not sure about other religeons) but even if the Catholic Church allowed contraception most people in a predominately Catholic country like the Philippines can't afford to use contraception (and families have 8-12 children consistently).
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 26, 2013 - 11:48am PT
Thanks for the enlarged readable copy Ed. Looks like there is a pronounced reaction around the Kaena/Gauss/Mammoth events to me. The graph is for the period of 3.6 to 2.2 m is it not? The resolution is is multi millenial and smooths over any events happening on a centennial or decadal time frame. There was a transient event in the neighborhood of 40-60 k ago that flipped and flipped back in less than 800 years that would be interesting to look at in the proxy record.

Overpopulation guys-Well how about going full speed ahead on technology to expand outwards and get a firm handle on the problems of today rather than spending unlimited time, energy, and treasure on studies to convince ourselves it's hopeless unless we give up all rights and prosperity to a new aristocrat class?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jun 26, 2013 - 11:49am PT
How much gas
could a wood chip absorb
if a would chip
could absorb
gas?

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 26, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
didnt like my woodchip theory eh? Well,, how does one propose power companies REDUCE their output of CO2 and carbons ? OR is it just another avenue for the gubbmint to steal more taxes? I heard NOTHING in obamas speech towards a "plan". Other than increased expenses through penalty's for power companies. Now you could think that to be good- those evil power companies and all, however we all know who WILL pay in the end, and it wont be so much as a single stock holder.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 26, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
I see Ed,, youve no solutions. I guess that makes us even..
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jun 26, 2013 - 12:30pm PT
Wet wood chips are used for H2S reduction for odor control, but they are merely a substrate to grow bugs on that eat the H2S
crunch

Social climber
CO
Jun 26, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
One "solution" to the problem of capturing CO2 is here:

http://carbonengineering.com/

No planes or contrails or weird, flakey whatever needed or involved. Just simple, down-to-earth technology.

David's a cool guy, and was once even a pretty good climber, from his days living here in Boulder, so this is on topic on more ways than one.

He would be the first to admit that though he has a potential "solution" it's up to the policy makers to decide when and IF they want to try sequestering.

He would argue that far better would be for us to cut down on our CO2 emissions.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 26, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Ill have you know ive removed PLENTY of CO2 producing game specimens.. Once mounted those beasts DO NOT emit ANY CO2.. In fact they may soak up some..Hell i even reduced human outputs of CO2. I do what i can..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 26, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
you mean like GLOBAL WARMING LOL! Ohhw thats right its been changed to CLIMATE CHANGE lol!


Credit: Ron Anderson
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 26, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
Wrong GOOGLEY site to find me Ed.. Try GOOGLEUPUHREDNECK. There are a MILLION Ron Andersons, we shall soon take over the world.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 26, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
So in that many of my questions have gone UN answered by the "scientific" side here, that doesnt allow me a voice?

In that Vein i suppose the majority of democrat voters here SHOULDNT be allowed to vote due to the fact they dont even know things like WHERE benghazi is, or what the position of Sec of defense is right.? Or that they simply voted for Obama cuz they got free stuff? Or his skin is dark?

Ive asked Ed many times here of the NATURAL effects regarding climate change and how they can predict those. That is a GOOD question. Sorry if it upsets you there are no answers to that.

Ive studied wildfire till blu in the face, yet im no closer to predicting those than the man onda moon. Ive seen those fires absolutely IGNORE fire science and all the classes i took.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 26, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Simply,, How can you predict with any accuracy what natural forces shall effect CO2 and other gasses in the future.

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