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Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 30, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
and now the ACTUAL reason polar bears were declared "endangered"..



In 2008, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service declared the polar bear a threatened species under the U.S. Endangered Species Act. The declaration was not based on an actual decline in the polar bear population but on the government’s conclusion that future declines in Arctic sea ice will reduce the bear’s habitat and put it at risk.
Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
May 30, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
He Rick, great post! Ed, your patience and the info you have posted is very much appreciated.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 30, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
"Excuse me for sidetracking from the politics of global warming"

Excellent.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
May 30, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
^^^ Its a trap and a troll, don't respond!!!1111

DMT
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 30, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
How about the first known appearance of life Jennie. I believe stromata identified in Australia 3.8 billion years old. There are those that claim our solar system is a second generation system partially formed from the leftovers of a previous supernova. But, in a sense is their such a thing as time if their is not lifeforms to benefit from times change or evolution and to note its passage?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 30, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
the oldest life form known on this rock is,, the tadpole shrimp i believe. 220 million years old and going strong. We need to examine THEM instead of "duck penises".
The Chief

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Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 30, 2013 - 01:13pm PT
Global warming reversed. Glaciers are now advancing


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05/30/alaska-ice-jam_n_3359775.html


Happens every season with a LATE thaw. Rick Sumner will testify to that. Nothing new. Keep drawing at them straws Bruce while you are lighting up that cigarette.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 30, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
So chef ,you agree with that analogy above as having nothing to do with GW,yet Dicks observation of a few weeks ago ,"still cross country skiing",has some sort of meaning?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 30, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
http://explore.glacierworks.org/#glaciers/compare-photos
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
May 30, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
the oldest life form known on this rock is,, the tadpole shrimp i believe. 220 million years old

Stromatolites. Way WAY WAY older. Think billions, not millions.

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 30, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
guess i should have specified actual living creature- animal type life, not organisms fossilized.;-)
raymond phule

climber
May 30, 2013 - 02:00pm PT

Just out. The REALITY vs. The Fairy Tales.

You posted a figure to show that Lindzen's prediction was incorrect?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 30, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
Oldest living life?

ONE BILLION YEARS

The billion year old protozoan has been known to exist only in one small part of a lake in Ås Norway 30 kilometers south of Oslo since 1865 but has not been classified or completely analyzed until now due to the limitations of technology.

This life form is distinctively different from any other plant, animal, or any other form of life presently known and incorporates some of the attributes of both plant and animal cells. The organism has been given a new branch called Collodictyon in the "Tree of Life" due to the protozoa's unique characteristics.

The protozoan has a nucleus, consumes green algae, is cannibalistic, and has four flagella.

The implications of this discovery cannot be overstated. This is the world’s oldest life form that is still living today. This life form is one billion years old. Both plant and animal portions of the protozoa's genome have been shown to exist.
http://www.examiner.com/article/oldest-life-form-on-earth-found-norway
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
May 30, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
Oldest and still living life form: Cyanobacteria -up to 3.5 billion years old
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanobacteria
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 30, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
damn!

but my protozoan can eat your bacteria, take that!
raymond phule

climber
May 30, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
http://www.skepticalscience.com/comparing-global-temperature-predictions.html

The proof that The Chief neither tries to read the blogs that he take figures from, care about the source of his information or tries to understand the meaning of the figure?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 30, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
actually seems the Nautilus and lamprey eel are 500+ million years old so its NOT the tadpole shrimp .
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 30, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
we are now at 3.5 billion years, ron
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 30, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
You posted a figure to show that Lindzen's prediction was incorrect?

As are ALL the others. Every last one of em.



Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 30, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
Norton perhaps you missed it but im talking about actual functioning animal forms, NOT those to be seen from a microscope such as organisms... Like the Jelly fish for example, some 500 million years old as well.

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