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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
That is bullshet MONO.


The Institutions reputation is at stake in allowing anyone person to remain in a position to remain on staff and teaching bad junk science etc.

Ironically, not only are these supposed junk scientists on the faculty, they are SENIOR CHAIRS of their department. And those departments are...

CLIMATE SCIENCE/EARTH AND ATMOSPHERIC SCIENCE etc.



Hansen is for example the worst person on earth and should be ignored even though he is employed by Nasa

You mean this guy???




raymond phule

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
Lindzen is a professor of meteorology. I also really doubt that he is allowed to teach any courses about today's climate science.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
I will strongly object to any such "oaths of allegiance" as a condition of or factor in hiring faculty on our campus.

(No oath of allegiance was ever mentioned in the email that supposedly sparked Dr. Pielke's blog posting)

The message that I heard was that I had better not testify or else my career might suffer. I took this as a direct threat from an official with influence on my career at the university and I said so on the spot.

Did I actually feel threatened? Not really.

hahahaaaaa... this guy seems almost as confused as Chuffer, Dr. Al Siding, and sketch who post here.


they are SENIOR CHAIRS of their department.

hahahahaaaaa.... Senior Chairs... what a fuking idiot. My uncle was a CAPTAIN SERGENT in the Navy.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
Love it when you post that pic of Hansen willing to take action, Chief.

Thanks very much.
raymond phule

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
Why do you post pictures of hansen?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
Your an idiot PHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE

Lindzen is known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books.[1] He was a lead author of Chapter 7, 'Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks,' of the IPCC Third Assessment Report on climate change.



Lindzen has published papers on Hadley circulation, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, hydrodynamic instability, mid-latitude weather, global heat transport, the water cycle, ice ages, seasonal atmospheric effects. His main contribution to the academic literature on anthropogenic climate change is his proposal of the iris hypothesis in 2001, with co-authors Ming-Dah Chou and Arthur Y. Hou.[6][7] He is a member of the National Academy of Sciences and the Science, Health, and Economic Advisory Council at the Annapolis Center for Science-Based Public Policy. Educated at Harvard University (Ph.D., '64, S.M., '61, A.B., '60), he moved to MIT in 1983, prior to which he held positions at the University of Washington (1964–65), Institute for Theoretical Meteorology, University of Oslo (1965–67), National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) (1966–67), University of Chicago (1968–72) and Harvard University (1972–83). He also briefly held a position of Visiting Lecturer at UCLA in 1967.[8] As of January 2010, his publications list included 230 papers and articles published between 1965 and 2008, with five in process for 2009. He is the author of a standard textbook on atmospheric dynamics, and co-authored the monograph Atmospheric Tides with Sydney Chapman.[9]


Looks like the IPCC allows quack junk scientists to lead their Assessment process as well.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
Dr. Lindzen acknowledged that the 2009 paper contained "some stupid mistakes" in his handling of the satellite data. "It was just embarrassing," he said in the Times interview.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
And Hansen nor Mann nor Larry Hamilton etc etc etc have NEVER been wrong???


You are so full of shet MONO!



raymond phule

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
He is still a professor in meteorology even though he has published about the climate.

But all this is just ridiculous when you have no problem with ignoring every scientist with a PhD in climate science and employed at very important institutions in the world if they disagree with your view.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
And Dr. James Hansen is an Astronomer/Astrophysicist...

was trained in physics and astronomy in the space science program of James Van Allen at the University of Iowa. He obtained a B.A. in Physics and Mathematics with highest distinction in 1963, an M.S. in Astronomy in 1965 and a Ph.D. in Physics, in 1967
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen


And his replacement at GISS is mathematician.

Gavin A. Schmidt was educated at The Corsham School, earned a BA (Hons) in mathematics at Jesus College, Oxford, and a PhD in applied mathematics at University College London

Michael Mann:

Distinguished Professor of Meteorology

He graduated with honors in 1989 with an A.B. in applied mathematics and physics.
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/Mann/index.php



Neither of the above is a "Climate Scientists" according to you PHOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
Do you really have no idea what a fuking idiot you are Chuffer? You think the points you raise are valid, but I assure you they are not.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:17pm PT
does THE CHIEF even know what MIT is?

I don't get it. PhDs are full of shet, MIT is for clowns. what school did you go to, THE CHIEFFFFF?
raymond phule

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
Rick Poedke, you are the person that are making the authority argument on the last pages. I am not.

I want to say though that I would consider it an important difference to get a professorship or research position in a subject compared to having a PhD in a subject. My guess is that Lindzen has done some god work in atmosphere physics and that that was the reason that he got a professorship in meteorology at MIT.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
On the other hand, here are some of the JUNK SCIENTISTS...

Roy Spencer:

Spencer received a B.S. in Atmospheric Sciences from the University of Michigan in 1978 and his M.S. and Ph.D. in Meteorology from the University of Wisconsin–Madison in 1980 and 1982.

John Christy:

A native of Fresno, California, Christy received a B.A. in Mathematics from California State University, Fresno in 1973, and an M.S. and Ph.D. in Atmospheric Sciences from the University of Illinois in 1984 and 1987

Roger A. Pielke Sr:

Pielke was awarded a B.A. in mathematics at Towson State College in 1968, and then an M.S. and Ph.D. in meteorology at Pennsylvania State University in 1969 and 1973, respectively.

William M. "Bill" Gray:

In 1952, Gray received a B.S. degree in geography from George Washington University, and in 1959 a M.S. in meteorology from the University of Chicago, where he went on to earn a Ph.D. in geophysical sciences in 1964.


Patrick J. Michaels

Patrick Michaels obtained an A.B. in biological science in 1971 and an S.M. in biology in 1975 from the University of Chicago, and in 1979 obtained his Ph.D. in ecological climatology from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.


All of the above are CURRENT or are retired Professors in their fields of CLIMATE SCIENCE.


ETC ETC ETC




bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:29pm PT
How do you decide which elitists to believe, Chief?
raymond phule

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:30pm PT

Neither of the above is a "Climate Scientists" according to you PHOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE.

If you read what I write you would see that I have not written anything that would suggest that they are not climate scientist or that Lindzen cant be considered a climate scientist.

But I would say that you can say it pretty simple. Everyone that have a climate science position is of course a climate scientist even though they might have gotten a PhD in a completely different subject. People that publish in climate science journals can often be considered climate scientist but not always (I wouldn't call McKitric a climate scientist for example).

The area and time of appointment for a professorship matters because the University have at one time thought that the person have done good work in that area.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:33pm PT
The area and time of appointment for a professorship matters because the University have at one time thought that the person have done good work in that area.


So, as long as they have "DONE" good work in the past, they remain on staff and currently teaching.

Regardless their current work... JUNK SCIENCE according to most here.
raymond phule

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
Why do you google like crazy to come up with peoples education?

raymond phule

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:37pm PT

So, as long as they have "DONE" good work in the past, they remain on staff and currently teaching.

Regardless their current work... JUNK SCIENCE according to most here.

Why don't you try to google "tenure" or at least read Ed's post? A university cant just fire professors.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
Speaking of tenure....Everyone of them JUNK SCIENCE dudes I posted above have been "tenured" professors at their respective Institutions of Higher Education for a min of the last 10 years or longer.


ALL during this AGW period of .... debate.


All much longer than MANN:

He was promoted to full professor in 2009 and to "Distinguished Professor of Meteorology" in 2013.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._Mann





A university cant just fire professors.




REALLY!


"University of Colorado Fires Ward Churchill,"

July 25, 2007: Last night the University of Colorado Board of Regents voted to fire professor Ward Churchill on the grounds of “serious, repeated, and deliberate research misconduct.” This vote came more than two years after the university investigated Churchill for making controversial public statements, including a reference to the victims of the World Trade Center attacks as “little Eichmanns.”
http://thefire.org/case/667.html


One would think that all the JUNK SCIENCE PROFESSORS I posted above would surely fall under this category.

making controversial public statements
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