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wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 07:19am PT
Some reason.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 18, 2013 - 07:52am PT
I think I just figured out what Rick is hinting at and in retrospect it is not surprising. What Rick finds so seductive about self reliance is the principle or really the mythology. The reality of it is of secondary importance. It is the idea that creates the motivation, and it is the motivation that to him that is important.

The idea of course is the rugged individual, beholden and reliant on no one other than his own John Galt powers of projection. Seductive indeed and of course infused with truth. Until you test it against reality, then like all moral principles, you discover that it cannot work in isolation from a host of other principles and realities. Thats the thing Rick. the principle has value when it passes the test.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:04am PT
Chief, is that list supposed to be all 'contrarian' scientists?

They are key personnel in the Aqua Program, so what?

I suspect The Chief has mild cognitive issues.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:31am PT
Spencer's worked for Nasa as long as just about anyone there.

Appeal to Authority arguments make no sense in promoting the 3%, you've already rejected research by the 97% who include many scientists with far stronger records than Dr. Roy.

But let's show some self-reliance. You think Spencer's research has been solid? Pick one of his articles, any one, and read it yourself. Then post here about why you personally found it convincing.

One possibility is the most recent paper he lists on his website, published 2 years ago in Remote Sensing. You can download the full paper for free:
http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603

Give it a shot, and stop posing.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:38am PT
Chiloe
97% who include many scientists with far stronger records than Dr. Roy.

AR5 indicates far different Larry. So much for the "Consensus" huh??

1. CLIMATE MODELS..... FAIL
2. HIATUS & CO2 correlation..... FAIL
3. IPCC and etal Temp projections including YOURS.... FAIL


Spencer and Christy called it years ago. You al "debunked" their work then and deduced their credibility as "junk science".
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:46am PT
Temps flat

Ice Building

Polar bears partying

Global temps DOWN on average

No ICE out in 2013

Models indeed failing

It must be the collective brain power alone that has thwarted the CO2 effects..
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:49am PT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:52am PT
Sorry MONO, but the above is now proven to be BULLSHET.... AR5 SAYS SO!

Ocean Temps are NO WHERE near them numbers.



INTERESTING how you no longer are posting any IPCC Climate Models and Projections.

Ha!
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:54am PT
Yer knott very bright, arya chief?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:55am PT
Very DARK actually.



So is the AR5.


Bigass storm is brewing along with it. Manmade storm of all things.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:57am PT
LOL, Chief, enjoy fantasy land while you can.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 18, 2013 - 08:59am PT
Theres a NEW CC org on the block! Known as the Ei-Ei-O...
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Sep 18, 2013 - 09:15am PT
I've done some research and concluded there was a lot more ice in my Scotch ten minutes ago.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 18, 2013 - 09:21am PT
http://www.upworthy.com/a-bunch-of-young-geniuses-just-made-a-corrupt-corporation-freak-out-big-time-time-for-round?g=2&c=ufb1
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 18, 2013 - 09:22am PT
Wade, i imagine the ice water has gone to the bottom of yur drink,, hiding its warmth there. The current in your drink has mixed the ice flow as well, possibly accelerating the melt. Mono will , in a few moments, come up with a GRAPH explaining this phenomenon!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 09:42am PT
I've done some research and concluded there was a lot more ice in my Scotch ten minutes ago.

That pretty much sums up the general research protocols and data from the "CONSENSUS"over the past 25-30 years.

Thanks!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 18, 2013 - 09:42am PT
Do you have any reasoning abilities independent of the likes of grist.org and other weather wacko sites instructing you the finer points of psycho babble attacks on reality, Bruce? You have long since surrendered your soul to "the collective", that's fine, wallow in it's miseries. For you to project your remote analysis outwards is beyond the reach of your limited store of true knowledge. I hope you don't often venture outwards to the high mountains with that degree of smugness- Russian roulette?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 18, 2013 - 09:45am PT
That pretty much sums up the general research protocols and data from the "CONSENSUS"over the past 25-30 years.

Yep, sure does. And the Village People pretty much sum up the Merkin workforce.

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Sep 18, 2013 - 10:18am PT
I've done some research and concluded there was a lot more ice in my Scotch ten minutes ago.

That pretty much sums up the general research protocols and data from the "CONSENSUS"over the past 25-30 years.

Thanks!


glad I could provide some credible data for your rigorous research.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 18, 2013 - 10:19am PT
Have you determined the thermocline depth in yur glass? This is paramount to a conclusive result!
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