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Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Sep 18, 2013 - 10:23am PT
of course not. that would be science. besides, Einstein and Jesus know I'm right.
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Sep 18, 2013 - 10:24am PT
It's hard to hold a drink with a nail in your hand.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 10:47am PT
Village P's don't even come close to your charade work/research protocols WESKIDPHD. No where. Perfectly exemplified by these dudes...



Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Sep 18, 2013 - 10:48am PT
this thread is finally starting to make sense...
Bharata

Mountain climber
Pune
Sep 18, 2013 - 10:49am PT
The make believe man made climate change disasters the old media vaguely reference all of the time these days is so stupid.

Point out one climate change disaster somewhere?

Why they toe the line for the IPCC CO2 hoaxers is obvious.
They desperately hope the climate change lie is to big to fail and will
now tell any lie to keep it true.

They are wrong. It failed.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 11:22am PT
wadingice
this thread is finally starting to make sense...

Of course it is. You showed up simply adding more buffoonery to the MMGW scam.

Thus solidifying the fact this whole MMGW gig is a joke.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 18, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
Next thing we will see is an automatic charge on your taxes : "Personal Greenhouse gas emitter fee" "methane, C02"...
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
I am glad to be doing something you all are not familiar with, WORK.

So i do not get to post up three stooges vids all day.

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

I have heard all your crap,and this is why you all are full of sh#t.

Roy Spencer,probably bought and paid for by the FF industry.http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/09/climate-science-contrarian-roy-spencers-oil-industry-ties.html
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Sep 18, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
There is already an "automatic charge" in the form of gas taxes but it's based on consumption, not income.

The feds charge about 18 cents/gallon. Nevada charges about 32 cents/gallon. California charges about 53 cents/gallon.


The feds or states could always decide to up the charges and spend the proceeds on reducing emissions. Lots of potential ideas...
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resource_center/7

wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resource_center/10
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 03:24pm PT
http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resource_center/9

Come on ,post up CREDIBLE information that is out there. Oh and then tell me it has all happened before,be sure to explain how you know that.

And show me where the ar5 leaks show any hiatus.Here is what has been leaked,so far http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/16/excerpts-from-the-leaked-ar5-summary-for-policy-makers/

Oh ,thats right ,you have to READ it.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Sep 18, 2013 - 05:20pm PT
Wilbeer, don't bother reading much of the WUWT website, unless you like hearing nonsciense like: "Because arctic sea ice might have melted slightly more in 2012 than in 2013, the trend has been reversed, and the climate is now cooling, and scientists are liars."
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
I do not.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
OH SHET!

Here it comes. The Storm that will bring your AGW/IPCC scam down has begun.

Leaked today from the AR5.

Take a good look. The models with Natural Forcing simulators are pretty much off line with the Observed data. The models with Anthro Forcing, will, they are a complete FAIL according the latest Haitus admission! Not one of em indicates the stall.





There is a ton more admissions just like this one in the AR5. One of the main reasons that many authors of the AR5 are demanding a rewrite asap. Cus shet like that above clearly indicates that the IPCC continues presenting misleading information even AFTER admitting the 15-20 year "Hiatus" that is clearly NOT indicated anywhere in the above models by the "OBSERVED" gray indicators.

Reality is that the Natural Forcing Models are clearly more in line with the Hiatus that has been clearly admitted by the IPCC as occurring.

Pop goes the weasel.


Damn!!

PS: No coincidence that Hansen just retired. Bailed just in time and now gets his $165K a year retirement. What a fkn thief!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 18, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2013/09/18/if-all-you-see-894/
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 18, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
Chief,,, RutRow!!!!;-)
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 18, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
Your getting a little testy, now aren't you Wilbeer. Hansen and Schmidt coopted the message coming out of NASA for their climate change viewpoints. Hansen retired but other true believers like Schmidt and others are still pushing their message whenever possible. Look what "The Right Stuff" had to say about the wrong stuff Wilbeer.

http://www.livescience.com/19640-nasa-astronauts-global-warming-letter.html
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
Beat me to it Rick. But I will post the letter....



The Honorable Charles Bolden, Jr.
NASA Administrator
NASA Headquarters
Washington, D.C. 20546-0001

Dear Charlie,

We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled.

The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.

As former NASA employees, we feel that NASA’s advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers is inappropriate. We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject. At risk is damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA’s current or former scientists and employees, and even the reputation of science itself.

For additional information regarding the science behind our concern, we recommend that you contact Harrison Schmitt or Walter Cunningham, or others they can recommend to you.

Thank you for considering this request.

Sincerely,

(Attached signatures)

CC: Mr. John Grunsfeld, Associate Administrator for Science

CC: Ass Mr. Chris Scolese, Director, Goddard Space Flight Center

Ref: Letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, dated 3-26-12, regarding a request for NASA to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that human produced CO2 is having a catastrophic impact on climate change.

/s/ Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years

/s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years

/s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years

/s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years

/s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years

/s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years

/s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years

/s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years

/s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years

/s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years

/s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years

/s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years

/s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years

/s/ Anita Gale

/s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years

/s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years

/s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years

/s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years

/s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years

/s/ Thomas J. Harmon

/s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years

/s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years

/s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years

/s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years

/s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years

/s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years

/s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years

/s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen

/s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years

/s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years

/s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years

/s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years

/s/ Tom Ohesorge

/s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years

/s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years

/s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate,40 years

/s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years

/s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years

/s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years

/s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years

/s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years/s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years

/s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 18, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
Check out this lecture by astrophysicist Nir Shaviv, Wilbeer. He talks about the models the Chief just posted that conform much better to natural forcings than to CO2 or CO2 and natural combination forcings.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/8QtnueIJGjc?feature=player_detailpage
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