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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
The chemtrails are coming! THE CHEMTRAILS ARE COMING!!!



DMT
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
Just can't come to admit they're spraying the atmosphere with chemicals

Of course they are... and you are spraying the intardweb with electrons... doesn't mean you are an electrical engineer.
WBraun

climber
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:53pm PT
The damage has already been done long ago.

There's need for any Illuminati or chemtrails or any such conspiracy stuff.

One look at you people and the truth is out ......
new world order2

climber
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:59pm PT

I believe the sane among us call that "crop dusting".

Yes....it's all "crop dusting".
That according to University of Bristol, and Al Gore.

http://www.lwec.org.uk/sites/default/files/Geoengineering%20meeting_Matthew%20Watson.pdf

WP2
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delivery

Putting particles into the stratosphere (above 20 km)
appears to be the cheapest, most effective option that
can cool the earth quickly by ~ 2 degrees (Royal Society
Report, 2009).

Getting 1 to 10 million + tonnes pa particles to that
altitude is very challenging.

Main options considered are:

High performance military jets, ~ 1 million flights pa

Global array of weather balloons ~ 40 million flights pa

Pumping through pipes held aloft by large balloons,
~ 4 balloons of 280 m diameter


Al Gore, on geo engineering...@ 1 minute mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WbXK_Twm5I

You guys want to live like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7rCAYkoMT0
No private home nor land ownership. No private vehicle ownership. No meat consumption.
Do you want to live in tiny 350 sq. foot apartments, in mega cities? I sure don't.

Grow up, Dingus. Click the links above. Google geo engineering. Educate yourself.

Have a chem-free day. Smiley Face.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Apr 8, 2014 - 01:09pm PT
No private home nor land ownership. No private vehicle ownership. No meat consumption.
Do you want to live in tiny 350 sq. foot apartments, in mega cities? I sure don't.


Grow up, Dingus. Click the links above. Google geo engineering. Educate yourself.

Nah. Too 'gone round the bend' to me.

DMT
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 8, 2014 - 01:16pm PT
NWO 2 declared
You guys want to live like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7rCAYkoMT0
No private home nor land ownership. No private vehicle ownership. No meat consumption.
Do you want to live in tiny 350 sq. foot apartments, in mega cities? I sure don't


Do you really think the answer is to pretend the problem doesn't exist? What you describe is exactly what happens in an overpopulated, overconsumed world. Either than or a massive population drop.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 8, 2014 - 01:25pm PT
where and what are the "errors in the data", Rick Sumner?

12th request
WBraun

climber
Apr 8, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
Does this mean that the "Chief" is right all along????

The Heartland Institute says more than 30 scientists served as authors and reviewers for the new report,
which it claims cites more than 1,000 peer-reviewed studies supporting the belief that climate change is not detrimental to the biosphere.


The panel of scientists says human impact on the global climate is small,
changing temperatures are within a historic scope of temperature variables and there is no net harm to human health of the production of food.

However, scientists are questioning the credibility of the NIPCC’s findings.

“Mostly it’s a bunch of old, retired guys that got together and wrote a report for the Heartland Institute that is basically full of misinformation,”

Quack ......
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Apr 9, 2014 - 12:35am PT
Building 7.

Quack quack.

DMT
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 9, 2014 - 06:38pm PT
Meanwhile, look what some of the smarty pantses over at the Navy did

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/07/1290380/-Navy-lab-makes-gasoline-from-seawater-as-low-as-3-per-gallon

Too bad Chris Farely isn't still alive to play Ford.

Quack ......

Excellent summary of the Heartland Institutes report.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Apr 10, 2014 - 10:22am PT

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/04/08/fox_news_leading_cable_news_network_is_usually_wrong_about_climate_change.html
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Apr 11, 2014 - 12:25am PT
Here’s a look at four nations that environmental researchers say are taking significant, measurable steps in mitigating greenhouse gases.
Germany, Denmark, Brazil, China
For one thing, China generates less pollution per person than most other industrialized nations. What’s more, the country has made a colossal investment in green energy.

“China is rapidly becoming the largest producer of renewable energy technology,” says Matthew Hoffmann, a professor at the University of Toronto who specializes in global environmental governance.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/climate-change-4-countries-that-are-fighting-the-trend-1.2593219
raymond phule

climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 09:54am PT
Sketch, cant you calculate the CO2 pollution per capita for USA and China? It would also be interesting to see the cumulative C02 pollution from for example 1950.
raymond phule

climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 11:59am PT

That doesn't change the fact that China's CO2 output has increased tenfold since 1970... or that it's tripled since Anthopogenic Global Warming became an international issue.

So China shouldn't be allowed to live like we do in the western world because their economical development started to late? They should be forced to only use more expensive renewable energy for their much lower energy use when the western world really don't do much to limit our pollution?

It is of course going to be a problem in the long run but I think that it is obvious that countries like China, India and all other poor countries want to live like we do in the western world in many regards. How can we argue that they shouldn't be allowed to live like us without being extreme hypocrites?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Apr 11, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
So China shouldn't be allowed to live like we do in the western world because their economical development started to late? They should be forced to only use more expensive renewable energy for their much lower energy use when the western world really don't do much to limit our pollution?

Yep!

DMT
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 11, 2014 - 12:25pm PT
Germany is building coal fired power plants as fast as they can.

I bet they could build them faster. The problem with you idiots is you see no problem with hyperbole... if German is building ANY coal fired plants, they must be building them as fast as they can.


For a whole week coal, nuclear and gas power plants had to generate an estimated 95 percent of Germany’s electricity supply

Wow, really, a whole week? Gee wiz!

Great graphic there from whatsupwithidiots showing all the coal plants Germany is supposedly planning to build... too bad they have NOTHING to back it up... no source of where they got the information... just another empty bullshit claim from an empty bullshit website.
raymond phule

climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 12:48pm PT

I'm not saying emerging markets shouldn't be able to build their own economic engines. But by doing so they are significantly contributing to atmospheric CO2 levels. So let's not make a bunch of bullsh!t rationalizations to excuse the fact that they are crapping all over the environment.

Just because they remained undeveloped for most of the last century, that doesn't give them a pass on this global issue.

No they shouldn't be given a pass but the fact still is that the average American pollute more than twice as much CO2 as the average Chinese.

The western world is still the part of the world that crap all over the environment the most.

It really doesn't make any sense if developing countries should need to follow rules bases on percent of their current pollution.
raymond phule

climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 01:08pm PT

Using that logic, most poor people in the US have nothing to complain about, considering they're better off than most people on the planet.

Or is silly to compare a family in LA, getting by on $10K per year, to a family in Rwanda with the same income?

Not the same logic.
raymond phule

climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 01:14pm PT

You are still one of them Western World polluting pig Americans.

Negative

and I don't understand why that should make any difference for my arguments.
raymond phule

climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 01:20pm PT

Riiight.

And it's only hypocrisy when the other guy is doing it.

I don't even understand what you mean...
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