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stuv

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pas de montagnes
Apr 6, 2014 - 02:42pm PT
The video is good and funny, Bruce. (9/10) A+++ would watch again!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 6, 2014 - 03:31pm PT
Good discussion of climate change at ~3:00, after a quick discussion of the problems with Obamacare.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/618470
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 6, 2014 - 03:36pm PT
LOL, Sketch.

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 6, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/04/05/just-a-girl-in-a-bikini-getting-tasered-for-climate-change/
Wade Icey

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www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 6, 2014 - 10:15pm PT
Credit: Wade Icey
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 6, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 7, 2014 - 12:09am PT
Credit: Global Warning III
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Apr 7, 2014 - 10:31am PT
Did you watch this important NBC documentary? Our Year of Extremes: Did Climate Change Just Hit Home?

Get the word out, people. Help snuff out the Deniers' Fire.

DMT
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 7, 2014 - 10:39am PT

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC

Apr 7, 2014 - 07:26am PT
Climate McCarthyism rides again.

Sketch is a smart guy. Nothing gets past his keen instincts. This is what its all about: A world wide network of liberals, queers and communists organized enough to control the outcome of all scientific endeavor for the purpose of human sacrifice to our god - mother nature ( note the feminist focus)

Basement dwelling day traders are among the smartest individuals on the planet, and their instincts are entirely trustable. Trust me on that.

Now I understand
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 7, 2014 - 11:12am PT
Sketch just debunked decades of climate science with one image, guys. Threads over. Pack it up.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 7, 2014 - 11:16am PT
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 7, 2014 - 11:19am PT
yes

Al Gore was right!

absolutely right

the world grain markets are already anticipating and fearing a hot drought summer
with prices already rising while the new crop is not even in the ground yet
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 7, 2014 - 11:24am PT
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 7, 2014 - 11:34am PT
Credit: Wade Icey
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Apr 7, 2014 - 11:36am PT
Nice TurkishStarWars Wade!! Have you tried his punching sand technique to ready your hands for the crack?! lol

Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Apr 7, 2014 - 11:45am PT
What facts sketch? How do you know they are facts? Can you prove your facts?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:35pm PT
the essence of passive aggression
littlehammer

Mountain climber
Land of frozen crags
Apr 7, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
Why is this nerd B.K. going on and on about nothing?
Focus on the important. Like basketball!

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 7, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
Resorting to childish mockery when you don't like the farts.

And what could be more childish?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 7, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
The last issue or Rolling Stone has a fantastic interview with Bill Gates.

Yeah, that Bill.

At least I found it interesting. Climate change was amongst the things they talked about:

Let's talk about climate change. Many scientists and politicians see it as the biggest challenge humanity has ever faced.
It's a big challenge, but I'm not sure I would put it above everything. One of the reasons it's hard is that by the time we see that climate change is really bad, your ability to fix it is extremely limited. Like with viruses, the problem is latency. The carbon gets up there, but the heating effect is delayed. And then the effect of that heat on the species and ecosystem is delayed. That means that even when you turn virtuous, things are actually going to get worse for quite a while.

Right . . . we're not virtuous yet, are we?
We're not even close we're emitting more CO2 every year. In order to get a 90 percent reduction of carbon, which is what we need, the first thing you might want to get is a year of global reduction, and we have not had that. U.S. emissions are down right now, partly because we buy more goods from overseas. But even if you invented some zero-carbon energy source today, the deployment of that magic device would take a long time.

Are you hopeful that global climate talks will lead to a solution?
Many climate-change discussions are off-target because they've focused on things like the $100 billion per year that some people believe should be spent by the rich world to help the developing world, which is not really addressing the problem. At the same time, discussion about how to increase funding of research-and-development budgets to accelerate innovation is surprisingly missing. We haven't increased R&D spending, we haven't put a price signal [like a carbon tax] in, and this is certainly very disappointing. I think it's a real test of the boundary of science and politics and an acid test of people's time horizons. Before the economic downturn, attitudes in the U.S. about climate change had become quite enlightened, and then there was a big reversal, which I believe was a result of people's worries about their immediate economic situation. Talking about problems that will have a significant effect 30 or 40 years out just gets off the agenda, and there's this shrill political debate that is distracting people. So we've made some progress, but you can't take the progress we've made and linearize it if you do, you really are going to find out how bad climate change can be.

Let's say climate change was delayed 100 years. If that were the case, science would take care of this one. We wouldn't have to double the Department of Energy budget, because there's five or six different paths to go down. And 100 years, at the current rate and speed of science, is a long time.

We're heading for big trouble, right?
Absolutely. That's why I happen to think we should explore geo-engineering. But one of the complaints people have against that is that if it looks like an easy out, it'll reduce the political will to cut emissions. If that's the case, then, hey, we should take away heart surgery so that people know not to overeat. I happened to be having dinner with Charles Koch last Saturday, and we talked a little bit about climate change.

[Charles Koch? You gotta be kidding. What'd he say?]

There's actually more on the subject; see the whole interview for the full monte: Bill Gates: The Rolling Stone Interview


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