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FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Sep 27, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
we find that the global energy budget implies a range of values for the equilibrium climate sensitivity that is in agreement with earlier estimates, within the limits of uncertainty.

Rick....do you not read the stuff you link to? Or is reading just "not that important"?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 27, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Rick....do you not read the stuff you link to? Or is reading just "not that important"?

Reading is very important to Rick. It puts him to sleep at night and at the same time acquires him his Phd from the U of Wassilla Bar And Grill.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 27, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
Read it all Fortmental. Don't just cherry pick one sentence.

"The energy budget of the most recent decade does, however, indicate a lower range of values for the more policy-relevant transient climate response ( the temperature increase at the point of doubling of the atmospheric CO2 concentration following a linear ramp of increasing greenhouse gas forcing) than the range obtained by either analyzing the energy budget of earlier decades or the current climate model simulations"

Downward is the trend my friends.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Sep 27, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
For grownups, Rahmstorf has posted a summary of the summary (AR5 SPM) over at RealClimate. Watch for some interesting and often well-informed discussion there over the next days, as readers bring up questions.

Conclusion

The new IPCC report gives no reason for complacency – even if politically motivated “climate skeptics” have tried to give this impression ahead of its release with frantic PR activities. Many wrong things have been written which now collapse in the light of the actual report.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 27, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
Rick - here is a little light reading for you.

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html


cherry pick all you want. Chuff couldn't possibly have all these character traits.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
"a large part of the warming by 2100 shall be irreversible" WHA??


They must have one hella big CRYSTAL BALL eh?

Yes they now SPEAK FOR MOTHER NATURE...

That report is full of VOODOO,, it is...Talk about ARROGANCE! BWUUUAHAHAHA!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
Rahmstorf has posted a summary of the summary (AR5 SPM) over at RealClimate.

Truly an UNBIAS PRO AGW BLOG. Thanks Larry.


NOT one Word of the confirmed Hiatus by the IPCC AR5 SPM "Summary for Policymakers" in his to date "Summary" post on his blog! Not one LARRY.

http://www.realclimate.org/


Why not LARRY?

 The long-term climate model simulations show a trend in global-mean surface temperature from 1951 to 2012 that agrees with the observed trend (very high confidence). There are, however, differences between simulated and observed trends over periods as short as 10 to 15 years (e.g., 1998 to 2012). {9.4, Box 9.2}

The observed reduction in surface warming trend over the period 1998–2012 as compared to the period 1951–2012, is due in roughly equal measure to a reduced trend in radiative forcing and a cooling contribution from internal variability, which includes a possible redistribution of heat within the ocean (medium confidence). The reduced trend in radiative forcing is primarily due to volcanic eruptions and the timing of the downward phase of the 11-year solar cycle.
However, there is low confidence in quantifying the role of changes in radiative forcing in causing the reduced warming trend. There is medium confidence that internal decadal variability causes to a substantial degree the difference between observations and the simulations; the latter are not expected to reproduce the timing of internal variability. There may also be a contribution from forcing inadequacies and, in some models, an overestimate of the response to increasing greenhouse gas and other anthropogenic forcing (dominated by the
effects of aerosols).
{9.4, Box 9.2, 10.3, Box 10.2, 11.3}
http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/uploads/WGIAR5-SPM_Approved27Sep2013.pdf
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
It is really painful to see Rong, Rick, and Chuff try to sound relevant when they discuss science... like a bunch of 2 year olds who only know two words, "why" and "no." Can't we just go back to name calling and personal insults? At least they know how to do that.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
Really, Chief, not one word on the 'hiatus'?


Those who have these data before their eyes can recognise immediately how misguided the big media attention for the “wiggles” of the curves towards the end has been. Short-term variations like this have always existed, and they always will.


The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
Here are some interesting notes from the AR5 "Report" that are a reversal from the AR4's "projections".

In the Antarctic, a decrease in sea ice extent and volume is projected with low confidence for the end of the 21st century as global mean surface temperature rises. {12.4}

Increases in intense tropical cyclone activity Low confidence in long term (centennial) changes Virtually certain in North Atlantic since 1970
{2.6}Low confidence (i){10.6}Low confidence

Increases in intensity and/or duration of drought Low confidence on a global scale Likely changes in some regions (d){2.6}Low confidence {10.6}
Low confidence (g)

More to come as I find them.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 27, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
You missed one dipsh#t. This is the one most people in the west, especially those who like to eat food and drink water, should be looking to mitigate:

There is very high confidence that the extent of Northern Hemisphere snow cover has decreased since the mid-20th century (see Figure SPM.3). Northern Hemisphere snow cover extent decreased 1.6 [0.8 to 2.4] % per decade for March and April, and 11.7 [8.8 to 14.6] % per decade for June, over the 1967–2012 period. During this period, snow cover extent in the Northern Hemisphere did not show a statistically significant increase in any month. {4.5}

Yes, the Chuff will search the entire report for "low confidence" as soon as it is available and gleefully post them up here, despite being completely clueless as to what any of it means.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
Nope!

Searched for REVISIONS from the AR4 KidPhD!


Dah??


The ones I noted played heavily in the AR4 "Summary for Policy Makers". They now show a whole different story.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
KMAN, WTF is this then???




http://www.ipcc.ch/


You complete and utter dipshit loudmouth, know-nothing idiot. Go to the IPCC page that you yourself posted and READ it.

There you will find the following words:

The Final Draft of the Working Group I contribution to the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report will be available here on 30 September.

What was released today is the summary. 36 pages.


But go ahead and quote from the final release all you want. It is just one more drop in the bucket that shows how lame you really are.


Now kindly GFY.
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Meanwhile,
President Obama continues to blame nonexistent CO2-driven climate warming for tornadoes, hurricanes, wildfires and droughts
that are occurring at the same level that
they always have been.

"We must take action now to prevent these natural disasters"


Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
floods? no problem, just build a wall around your house and buy a boat!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1388660/Mississippi-River-flooding-Residents-build-homemade-dams-saves-houses.html
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Now kindly GFY.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Now what was that about "Semantics" on YOUR part KMAN???


Works for you but not for those that DO NOT KISS your ass.

Got it.

The Summary for Policymakers

Is indeed what "Policy Makers" Globally will be looking at KMAN. This report is the one your PRESIDENT is already making comments related to future Policy Making.

Dah!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
Sh#t, chuff nuts doesn't even know what he is quoting from! I can't believe we actually still respond to this dipsh#t.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
The Chief, he reached rock bottom, but managed to find a shovel and kept digging ...
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
What a way to live!


Ah, the Mississippi has been doing this for centuries. Remember!


How you and the rest conveniently forget.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 27, 2013 - 02:43pm PT
Ah, the denieosphere is just buzzing,I told you ,that you would not like it.The AR5.

Continue with the discrediting,do not worry, your blogs will keep up.
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