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Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Sep 17, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
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Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV

Sep 17, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
NASA says you don't know what you are talking about....
CO2 and NO3 act as cooling agents in the atmosphere.

“Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”


http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/22mar_saber/


So what happens to the light/energy/photons that get through the atmosphere ?
Research that a little bit ..
You may see the error of your ways ..

Or perhaps you have thought of something all the universities and academic institutions in the world have not ??

Who knows ...


Cheers ..
Bharata

Mountain climber
Pune
Sep 17, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
The only greenhouse gas makes any difference to the Earths climate
is water vapor. CO2 has negligible effect as a drop of water added to
a swimming pool.


Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Sep 17, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
^^^*
Fascinating ..
Do you perhaps have a reference for that?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Sep 17, 2013 - 11:14pm PT
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raymond phule

climber
Sep 18, 2013 - 12:55am PT

We've never received an adequate answer to that one Shack.

Says who? Adequate answer to that research has been given more than 10 times in this thread. That you don't understand them or choose to ignore them is your problem.
raymond phule

climber
Sep 18, 2013 - 12:58am PT
Interesting that Spencer is a trusted scientist because he is employed by NASA but Hansen, Mann, Smith et al. cant be trusted when they are employed by NASA.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Sep 18, 2013 - 04:56am PT
^^^^
So dumb

You didn't even read it let alone understand it ..

You guys really are hilarious ..
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:03am PT
I know Spencer works at NASA,is his name on the data.No.

His contending opinion is only alive in the denieosphere.

Show me on Nasa's website[s] where Roy Spencers contending opinion is found.

Same with the Noaa.

It is hard to believe you cannot trust data ,read the link .http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2013/08/

Chef ,link up your claim.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:26am PT
Roy Warren Spencer is a climatologist, Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, and the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Spencer_%28scientist%29

Dr. Roy Spencer
Principal Research Scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville, University of Alabama in Huntsville

Dr. Roy Spencer is a principal research scientist for University of Alabama in Huntsville. In the past, he has served as Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, where here he directed research into the development and application of satellite passive microwave remote sensing techniques for measuring global temperature, water vapor, and precipitation. He currently is the U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA's Aqua satellite.
http://www.marshall.org/experts.php?id=122

Dr. Spencer’s work with NASA continues as the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming.

Dr. Spencer’s research has been entirely supported by U.S. government agencies: NASA, NOAA, and DOE. He has never been asked by any oil company to perform any kind of service. Not even Exxon-Mobil.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/about/


Since 1992 Dr. Spencer has been the U.S. Team Leader for the Multichannel Imaging Microwave Radiometer (MIMR) team and the follow-on AMSR-E team. In 1994 he became the AMSR-E Science Team leader.

He received the NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal in 1991, the MSFC Center Director’s Commendation in 1989, and the American Meteorological Society’s Special Award in 1996.
http://aqua.nasa.gov/about/team_spencer.php

ALL his and Christy's work at UAH is data connected to the NASA Aqua Project ... SPORT!




There's more but I think you get the jest of it .... I HOPE!
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:33am PT
The "jest" of it? Indeed.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:36am PT
^^^^^^ Precisesly BOBBYINCBOY! Jest. Cus this entire thread and OP is simply one big fatass political ideological left wing Utopian Scientism joke. Nothing more. ^^^^^^
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:38am PT
Chief, you may want to renew your agitprop subscription. I'm growing tired of the same pap that's been issuing from your cerebral Cuisinart.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:42am PT
Then depart accordingly BOBYINCER.

Simply.


BTW, your sub to the Daily Kos is coming up as well...
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:43am PT
No NASA sites,or NOAA.

"Independent Interpretation "

This is what i am talking about.

Show me the 1998 NOAA record.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:50am PT
Yur really an idiot WELBER.


Not one of NASA's AQUA SAT SPECIFIC Monthly data read outs indicates any one individuals name to it.

"Independent Interpretation "

It is an instrument utilized by a slew of different programs in evaluating GCC and the climate data in general.




PSSSSSSSSSSST.... Spencer never stated he denies GCC is occurring. NEVER!
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:51am PT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment

Three dozen ,out of how many?

You called me a name ,on the internet. yawn.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 06:55am PT
Ah, where did you get "Three dozen" ?

That WIKI page states NOTHING of sort.


You been hanging around FRONTALOBOTME and learning how to producing bullshet propaganda again.


I think it's time you go snort some of that TRIFLO you use on your rigs. Might bring you back to earth.



BTW: WIKI says nothing so therefore they do not exist.... got it.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Sep 18, 2013 - 07:01am PT
I do not know why the link failed.god damn confusers.

Any way ,none of their OPINIONS are attached to official NASA,NOAA websites,lets hear your reason.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 18, 2013 - 07:08am PT
Well just keep deferring to the experts Bruce. If it's right for you so be it. I can't see myself replacing reality with your interpretation anytime soon.


I wouldn't expect you to take my interpretation any more than I would advise taking yours. We have discussed this before and as I recall, it was one of those subjects that made you uncomfortable enough to change the subject. Perhaps you are more willing now? After all you brought it up.

As I implied, I think you have some gumption suggesting to a bunch of middle aged climbers that you have something we don't - a more sophisticated grasp of the subtle implications of self reliance. As I told you before, I may know sweet fuk all about climate science through my professional applications of weather forecasting, but I sure know a thing or two about self reliance - and its limitations and the not so subtle implications of overstepping your abilities. I told you before, you show all the signs of level one disease. To refresh, that is the known effect of assuming a greater understanding and ability than your level of training prepares you for.

Among the worst people you can go in the mountains with in winter are those who have just completed an avalanche course. Not all of course but an alarming percentage non the less. It has nothing to do with their intent but everything to do with their newly discovered garden path. The same can be said for meteorologists and climatology. These behaviors are demonstrable and documented. It is a manifestation of the Dunning - Kruger effect and we are all susceptible to its subtle implications because we are all to varying degrees incompetent in fields outside of our experience and professional expertise.

I know this because I have personally experienced it and witnessed it, sometimes with fatalities. So don't lecture me about the subtle implications of self reliance unless you are willing to demonstrate the extent of your sophistication.

There are two cures for this disease. One is that through observation and testing in low risk situations a person will discover that their assumptions and preconceptions are perhaps a little shakier than previously imagined. This takes time, humility and no small amount of good luck.

The other is that your assumptions are tested catastrophically in a high risk situation that through hubris and incompetence you have inserted yourself and your unsuspecting followers. If you survive this is your best and last chance to reevaluate and consider what you missed. This also takes no small amount of humility but your lucky streak is over. Unless you actually like playing russian roulete.


Herman- I liked that guy. he at least knew how to mass produce pizza versus the no nothing disorganizer we yanks have.

Yes he seems like a hell of a guy and I have no doubt he would have made a pizza out of Syria by now. Anybody who watched that video would have watched the incompetent attempt the impossible - competency.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 18, 2013 - 07:14am PT
DUDE EWLBER,

Neither are any of the other individuals directly involved with the Aqua Program.


Claire Parkinson
Lazaros Oreopoulos
William Guit
Norman Loeb
Joao Teixeira
Akira Shibata
Roy Spencer
Michael King
Steve Graham
Steve Platnick
Vince Salomonson
Bruce Wielicki
Mous Chahine

http://aqua.nasa.gov/about/team_spencer.php


Dr. Spencer has served as Pricipal Investigator on the Global Precipitation Studies with Nimbus-7 and DMSP SSM/I, and the Advanced Microwave Precipitation Radiometer High Altitude Studies of Precipitation Systems. He has been a member of several science teams: the Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission (TRMM) Space Station Accommodations Analysis Study Team, Science Steering Group for TRMM, TOVS Pathfinder Working Group, NASA Headquarters Earth Science and Applications Advisory Subcommittee, and two National Research Council study panels.
http://aqua.nasa.gov/about/team_spencer.php
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