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Wade Icey

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Mar 27, 2014 - 08:10pm PT
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Social climber
So Cal
Mar 27, 2014 - 08:55pm PT

Gym climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2014 - 01:01pm PT
Looks like there is a collective move to bury this thread ...

Not exactly.

The street became overtaken by the overly-bulbous Clown Car, and the folks who wanted a real discussion decided to let them have it. There's no doubt that the Clown Car will continue to ride this street, and will likely ride a victory lap because nobody's got the desire to reply to their moronic drivel.

Have at it clowns, post all the stuff you can find from your anti-science blogs. In the end, however, physics will win.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
Pandora's Promise, a documentary about nuclear energy as clean energy, is now available at netflix.

It likens much of the propaganda, arguments, strategies and tactics of anti-nuclear partisans to those of the climate change denialists.

Despite the gains we're making, I think we're in trouble.
sandstone conglomerate

sharon conglomerate central
Mar 30, 2014 - 01:32pm PT
Oh, we're not in trouble. 150 years of burning fuels non-stop 24-7, the emergence of unregulated industry in third world countries coupled with a 7 billion person population that can't feed itself means nothing. Polluted oceans, rampaging commercial fishing industries that long-line any living thing in the way, polluted rivers, lakes, puddles, streams, rain water, etc. It's all good. Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

lost, far away from Poland
Mar 31, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
Maybe instead of arguing here we should call our representatives and demand action.

"Yokohama, Japan: Soaring carbon emissions will amplify the risk of conflict, hunger, floods and mass migration this century, the UN's expert panel said Monday in a landmark report on the impact of climate change.
Left unchecked, greenhouse gas emissions may cost trillions of dollars in damage to property and ecosystems, and in bills for shoring up climate defences, it said, adding the impact would increase with every additional degree that temperatures rise.
"Increasing magnitudes of warming increase the likelihood of severe, pervasive, and irreversible impacts," a summary said, in a stark message to policymakers."


Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 31, 2014 - 07:46pm PT
Warming trends for this century.

hahahhahhaaaaaaaa.... damn, you guys can't help yourselves, can you?

How about "Warming trends for the last 14 years" to put it in a bit clearer perspective?

Nah, we all know climate is defined by whatever period supports the deniers preconceived bullshit notions.
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 07:49pm PT
I am not an academic researcher and hence have no need for formal references. However, if you've found this site useful, an informal 'mention in dispatches' and a Web link wouldn't go amiss.
This cuts both ways, however: The algorithms used on this site have not been formally peer reviewed and hence should not be used unverified for academic publication (and certainly not for policy- making!). This site is only intended to help find interesting directions for further research to be carried out more formally.

The above quote is directly from the website referenced in Sketch''s graph. Bold added by me.


Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 31, 2014 - 08:53pm PT

Mar 31, 2014 - 09:34pm PT
...and no warming
Not so if you include the Arctic, where there is indisputably a lot of warming recently, as part of global temperature. Why do you continue to ignore this? Hmm.

PDO and ENSO are overall way negative since early 2000s and temperature is still rising (including Arctic). Hmm.

Ocean heat content has gone up an enormous amount not only at 0-2000 m depth, but deeper as well, and still temperature is rising (including the Arctic). Curiously, none of you ever respond to this point. Hmm. To repeat, do you genuinely believe that all that ocean heat will never show up as a surface temperature increase but will just magically disappear forever, though we know that ocean waters and currents have oscillated (irregularly, but still oscillated) for centuries/millenia?

Since about 1980, TSI is down from its peak almost halfway to where it was at the height of the Little Ice Age, and temperature is still rising... Hmmm.

If CO2 wasn't very important in actual global surface temperature, all the sources of data on natural influences suggest the temperature should have been going way way down since 1998, but no.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
Yeah, that's right Sketch... play your stupidity off as "trollery"
new world order2

Mar 31, 2014 - 10:35pm PT

Global warming dials up our risks, UN report says

YOKOHAMA, Japan (AP) If the world doesn't cut pollution of heat-trapping gases, the already noticeable harms of global warming could spiral "out of control," the head of a United Nations scientific panel warned Monday.

And he's not alone. The Obama White House says it is taking this new report as a call for action, with Secretary of State John Kerry saying "the costs of inaction are catastrophic."

Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that issued the 32-volume, 2,610-page report here early Monday, told The Associated Press: "it is a call for action." Without reductions in emissions, he said, impacts from warming "could get out of control."

I can see a day, where all those who disagree there is global warming, will be labeled a terrorist.


Social climber
So Cal
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:39pm PT
I think I see a stoned hippie.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
I can see a day, where all those who disagree there is global warming, will be labeled a terrorist.

Like the shoe bomber dude???

new world order2

Mar 31, 2014 - 11:12pm PT
Bruce, I can't make heads nor tails of your question(s).

Can you give me a Coles Notes version?

Edit: Yes, the mainstream media, and world governments will come to label global warming deniers as terrorists.
new world order2

Mar 31, 2014 - 11:22pm PT
Puck, I don't know. Lol.

I'd rather concern myself with all things new world order.

Why does mainstream media, Kissinger, Bush, and many more politicians speak of a new world order/global governance/one world government? What does it all mean?

Yet when I bring the subject up, I'm labeled a conspiracy theorist?
new world order2

Mar 31, 2014 - 11:36pm PT
Yes, the world is flat.

I know this because when ships sail too close to the edge, they fall off!


Ice climber
great white north
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:47pm PT
The earth is round because its shadow is round (lunar eclipse).
It's not coin shaped because it rotates & always has a round shadow.

"As it is, in its monthly phases the moon takes on all varieties of shape -- straight-edged, gibbous and concave -- but in eclipses the boundary is always convex. Thus, if eclipses are due to the interposition of the earth, the shape must be caused by its circumference, and the earth must be spherical."
    Aristotle, De Caelo, Book II, Ch. 14

The Greeks knew this 2000 years ago.
new world order2

Apr 1, 2014 - 12:10am PT
Yes Bruce, I'm evading your queries.

Corona plus a few laps elsewhere, was off the charts today and I'm spent.

Good night.

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Ice climber
great white north
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:52am PT
And where you get your wine may be changing. Both quantity and quality of wine can be hurt in much of Europe, the United States and Australia, but Portugal and British Columbia in Canada may become better places for wine, the report said.
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