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Wade Icey

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www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 10, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
F*#KING WHITE COATS111!!!666

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WBraun

climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
LOL ...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 10, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus.htm

“...the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes”
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Here is AGW CLIMATE SCIENCE at work!! They are now in the business of projecting the end of the world as we all know it....

According to a new study in the scientific journal Nature, 2047. That's the year the planet will pass "climate departure," the moment when the average coolest temperature year is projected to be warmer than the average temperature of the hottest year between 1960 and 2005.

But the sobering study projects that given current greenhouse gas emissions, many major cities will pass climate departure much earlier.

Mexico City, for example, will hit climate departure in 2031, eight years after Kingston, Jamaica, reaches its global warming tipping point in 2023. For New York and Washington, D.C., the estimated year of climate departure is 2047, a year before Los Angeles. Phoenix and Honolulu are projected to reach climate departure in 2043, the earliest in the United States, while Seattle (2055) and Anchorage (2071) have a bit more time.

But that's light years away compared to Manokwari, Indonesia, which is expected to hit climate departure in 2020, just seven years from now.
http://news.yahoo.com/when-will-climate-change-strike-135726362.html
http://www.nature.com/nature/archive/subject.html?code=2786







Does the above projection fall under the same scientific pretense that this failed projection came by:

jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Oct 10, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
dont worry dudes, the oils gona run out before we can burn enuf to cook the planet. then y,all can spend yer days arguing about the govt conspiracy to feed politicians before hucking cans o spam at the people.
abrams

Sport climber
Oct 10, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
You peeps who think cow farts can change the climate should get a clue
and realize the big yellow star just 8 light minutes away is in complete control of the climate.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
Gonna be Soylent Green for the rest of us.


Nice and PC verbiage for .... GEOENGINEERED.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 10, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
It never ceases to amaze me... proposing regulation for anthropogenic carbon emissions, which clearly affects global climate, is seen as end-of-the-world doomsday alarmism.

All of the physics behind the models are clearly explained and multiple scenarios are covered... never once claiming to be able to predict the future with absolute certainty. When they are right, it is by chance... but when they are wrong, it is because the predictions were fabricated as part of a vast global conspiracy.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
It"s that shrapnel acting up again.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
But... the chuffer deeply wants to believe the iris hypothesis... and Lindzen is from MIT... so his HYPOTHESIS must still be valid and everyone else must be wrong. You can't simply test a hypothesis and discard it when it is proven to be wrong... not when the chuffer agrees with it.

Someone thought of it and the chuffer wants to believe it, therefore it must true, despite the evidence. If someone thought of it and the chuffer doesn't want to believe it, it must be part of a vast conspiracy, despite good agreement with the evidence.

Why is this so hard for anyone but the chuff to understand?
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
you don't know what soylent green is, THE CHIEF??

lulz! I mean HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!*(@&(*@!
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
It never ceases to amaze me... proposing regulation for anthropogenic carbon emissions, which clearly affects global climate, is seen as end-of-the-world doomsday alarmism.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people spout off idiotic lies to defend their position.... or attack the opposition.

Actually, it doesn't amaze me at all. Small minded people tend to exaggerate when they feel insecure about their argument.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
well sh#t, yer arguments that we have no effect are good enuf for me! Cut down all the trees! Fish the oceans dry! Kill everything that can be processed into bologna! Its ok- it,ll grow back- god put it here for our consumption- it,ll grow back.

And remember folks, arsenic's as natural as pot, but nobody's smokin that! (though some people should)
crunch

Social climber
CO
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
Nicholas Drapela?

he was not a tenured professor (ie, he had no job security). His continued employment was at the whim of the university.

He'd been teaching there ten years. Sounds like he never published any research in that ten years. To teach as a professor for ten years and not be offered a tenure position indicates long-standing issues.

If a professor is taken on as a non-tenure-track position, it's usually because there is some doubt about their potential. They're sort of on probation. If they want to stay, they really need to bust a gut to publish research papers. To both fail to publish research AND upset one's colleagues with controversial statements is not too smart.

A friend here in Boulder taught astronomy at CU for many years, was rated VERY highly by the students and staff. An excellent teacher, inspiring, fun, about the best lecturer in the department. He'd written and contributed to some great books aimed at the public and at undergraduate students. A real credit to the department. He was let go. There was a big fight over this but the administration got their way. They always do. In the long run he got a new job, elsewhere, where he's happier, now, anyway.

It's too bad that some of the best and most inspiring science teachers are let go. Teaching is a different skill-set to research. Communicating with other scientists is very different from communicating with non-scientists. Public outreach is a real weakness of the scientific community.
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
Nicholas Drapela?

he was not a tenured professor (ie, he had no job security). His continued employment was at the whim of the university.

He'd been teaching there ten years. Sounds like he never published any research in that ten years. To teach as a professor for ten years and not be offered a tenure position indicates long-standing issues.

If a professor is taken on as a non-tenure-track position, it's usually because there is some doubt about their potential. They're sort of on probation. If they want to stay, they really need to bust a gut to publish research papers. To both fail to publish research AND upset one's colleagues with controversial statements is not too smart.

In other words.... you have no idea why he was fired.

What makes his case seem so unusual is he was fired right before exams. He was fired on the spot and asked to turn in his keys. No explanation was given. Just "hit the road".
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:47pm PT
Drapela says, "Global Warming doctrine is no longer just a scientific theory; it is a populist social and political tool."

[Drapela's] slideshow suggests global warming is part of a "new world order" and an attempt to establish "global governance," and the only reason people don't link it to solar flares is because they can't make money off of it.

hmmm, in a chemistry class? Gee, I wonder why anyone would have an issue with this.

My guess is you have absolutely no experience in higher education, either as a student or as an instructor. When I teach hydrology or math I always make it a point to discuss how organized religion is part of a huge global conspiracy designed to concentrate power in the hands of white supremacists. Why else would anyone take a hydrology or math class?

Just "hid the road".

ah, yes, I'm sure the prepared statement he was read just said "hid the road."
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
Soylent green ...

When you are on your way to the morgue in forty something years asshulle dipwad, that is exactly what it is going to be....

GEOENGINEERED COLORED LIQUID PLASTIC!



.. believe the iris hypothesis... and Lindzen is from MIT... so his HYPOTHESIS must still be valid and everyone else must be wrong. You can't simply test a hypothesis and discard it when it is proven to be wrong...

AH.


So as I proposed earlier, Larry Hamilton, Mann, Hansen etal have NEVER been wrong.

Got it.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 10, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Oh, hey, look everyone... the chuff googled Soylent Green! And appears to have actually read AND COMPREHENDED a couple sentences. We are all so proud. Keep up the good work.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Oct 10, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
interesting set of cases you bring up... providing some insights on your point-of-view...


Please elaborate EDH.


Cus I am very curious to see why you consider them... "interesting".
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Oct 10, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
My guess is you have absolutely no experience in higher education, either as a student or as an instructor. When I teach hydrology or math I always make it a point to discuss how organized religion is part of a huge global conspiracy designed to concentrate power in the hands of white supremacists.

No rebuttal?

Just petty ad homs?

We all play to our strengths.
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