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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 17, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
I don't know if I can trust you as a reliable source of information any longer Bruce. Seems your characterization of these "teabaggers" as Neanderthals of little intellect is way off base according to a new Yale study.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/tea-party-science-98488.html

Alrussia-don't you know it brother. They"re everywhere up here. Been battling them for years, but they sure know their away around corruptions of state and excessive regulation. And Wilbeer, don't you live on Walden's Pond or some such place?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 17, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
$100 these as#@&%es don't "believe" in anthropogenic climate change... and "know" it is all a hoax.

http://deadspin.com/jackasses-topple-200-million-year-old-rock-formation-1447403778
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Oct 17, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
Near Honeoye Lake on its outlet.Not far from civilization .

And yes I have been to Alrussia,there is bunch of them in Ketchikan.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 17, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
$100 chuff thinks a few rednecks toppling a boulder at a state park is perfectly acceptable and does not reflect poorly on the individuals, but less than 200 protestors who split from the main group of thousands to commit acts of vandalism reflect the mentality of everyone who thinks sciencey thoughts.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Oct 17, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
You beat somebody up, Chuff? Woooooowww.

Last time I took pride in something like that, I certainly wasn't past my 20's. Course, I'm not a blowhard wannabe bully like yourself. F*#k, your personal experience reads like a sheltered boy with a chip on his shoulders turned hard man wannabe. You clearly didn't grow up where I did, poseur is written all over you.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Oct 17, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
You are a bootleg copy of an actual man. Answer me some of the personal questions I've asked you, huh? Thought not. It's funny you think you can get mileage out of what little personal history I told you myself. Then, you'll deny that in the next breath. You know, if it suits your argument. Complete lack of integrity, Chuff, you need to invest in an actual personality instead of the cartoonish figure you paint here.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Oct 17, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
Better than clowning you? A man too stupid to realize he's lost at every turn? Nope. That'll do, donkey.

Heh. Thought not indeed.

Edit: iPhone, dickweed. Like you are the grammarian? You are, like, bozo crazy, LOL!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 17, 2013 - 11:55pm PT
the Spectator is a mainstream publication if you hadn't noticed.

LOL IN ALL CAPS

Credit: Global Warning III
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Oct 18, 2013 - 12:00am PT
You win because people post on the internet now? Wow, coocoo pants, it must feel awesome to think that. Meanwhile, you are an OCD nightmare of posting. Hmmm... Disconnected much? Yeah.

Well, have fun winning the internet, bozo, I'm packing for one of those irresponsible climbing trips we in the climbing tribe are known to partake ;). You wouldn't know about our tribe. Not really.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Oct 18, 2013 - 12:04am PT
iPhones mean spousal quality time? No, keep going with that, I'm trying to compile a Chuff to English dictionary.

Later, skater ;).

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nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 18, 2013 - 12:32am PT
You forgot a comma. Place it anywhere you wish.

f*#king awesome.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 18, 2013 - 12:40am PT
damned lies and statistics...
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 18, 2013 - 12:48am PT
Of course it matters how you get there Bruce. The ends justify the means in only rare circumstances such as this battle with an unscrupulous opponent ideology that if allowed to win would set us all on a disastrous course into an unneeded dark age. I'll tell you this; defeat of this ideology that turns all convention on its head, that convinces its minions that down is up and white is black would endear its victor to no one. Rather, they would be viewed as azzholes while the issue and its creators gently fade into oblivion. It is dirty work, but somebody has to do it.
That's the serious take on it, others could view it as just the great game.
MisterE

climber
Oct 18, 2013 - 01:34am PT
I just don't know, Man....has anybody said that yet?

I just kind of skimmed the close to 1800 posts...
raymond phule

climber
Oct 18, 2013 - 03:19am PT

Is the god of global warming dead or at least dying? Below are a couple of links to articles and viewpoints that are making there way through mainstream publications into the collective psyche. Enjoy!

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9057151/carry-on-warming/

http://thegwpf.org/peter-glover-dismantling

I see that rick have read his favorite blogs and parroted the information he found.

I really cant understand how people that claim that most everyone else are brainwashed by a conspiracy don't see the irony that they get all they "know" from blogs with a clear agenda.
raymond phule

climber
Oct 18, 2013 - 04:14am PT
Kahneman's "Thinking fast and slow" explains some of the mechanisms involved and is an interesting read. I am not sure though have well it explains the extreme cases that we see here.

http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 18, 2013 - 07:24am PT
If you're following consensus you're following consensus no matter how you guild it.

There are very few leaders, in this thread nor in the world.

DMT
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 18, 2013 - 08:34am PT
sheesh, when your born into this world, you get a ticket to the freak show,
when your born in America, you get a front row seat,

back to the topic>

"i look around, and i don't see a way out for this species,
to me, using technology to fix the mess made by technology is what we are planning to do. and it does not seem to fit for me,
i just see this thing as some of these problems that exist as not really having, certainly not easy solutions, and it's always a bandaid,
and it seems that a lot of the things we do with the best of intentions, and especially when we get to this field of engineering, and tampering with the physical world, they seem to create more problems than they fix,
i look at it and i think, wow! i hope i live long enough to watch it all collapse, just for the fun of it, but i'm really kind of glad that i'm closer to death than birth, because presumably, there could be some really ugly cataclysmic event,
i once said that if the world blows up, i hope it happens east of me, that way i can watch it on CNN before the prevailing winds bring it back around to me,"

George Carlin
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Oct 18, 2013 - 09:22am PT
We need more values-based technology.

Chuff got his wings last night as Ed trolled him to 6 more posts, HAAAAA!

Headed out for that climbing trip now. Yee Haw!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 18, 2013 - 10:31am PT
You, Bruce, an unscrupulous ideologue? Don't you remember, that presented convincing evidence, you're ready to jump ship at a moments notice? You were here at the beginning, i'd wager you will still be here at the end, bobbing, weaving, and jabbing away with questions of motive and psychology designed to denigrate and marginalize. To bad you don't have a positive vision.

The problem with this little uptopian ideology that created CAGW as the primary vehicle of choice to propel it's cause is that it doesn't provide advancement at all but rather retreat and admission of defeat by the challenges of the frontiers that lie ahead. It's path can only lead to withering of the human spirit, stagnation, and self enslavement by surrender of all individual ambition to an all controlling, totalitarian, governance regime. In short anything but the Utopia. What humanity needs is a common vision that embraces the challenges of frontiers ahead and the will to stay the course. If people could unite behind this kind of philosophy, then the little problems of today, that many of you obsess about, would fade into insignificance. Is this a utopian vision unattainable in the real world of Chuffian Darwinism, probably, but it still is a whole lot more uplifting than rapping off in defeat.
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