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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 19, 2013 - 12:52am PT
^^^^Once again proving my point DIRT. Thank you!! HA HA HA HA!^^^^^^^^


God you are such a fking stupid tribal wanna-be. But then, I guess that's what happens when all you let do ya is a puking dog.

Blame it on all the heat. Huh DIRT.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 19, 2013 - 12:52am PT
No doubt there is a direct correlation Ron. Maybe there already fried brains subjected to the urban heat island effect.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 19, 2013 - 01:00am PT
RS, the ONLY correlation here is all the Helium these AGW dudes are inhaling then speaking.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 19, 2013 - 01:29am PT
EDH

You are the biggest AGW Zealot prophet fool here.

More humans died last week in Cairo from the human ego politically induced chaos there than have died in all of this 160 plus years of your AGW BS ideology.


There is NOT ONE "Confirmed" fatality from your AGW bullshet. NOT ONE!


You will not find any either. Remember, there is only 95% certainty that your AGW ideology is all human caused.

All the other shet that is and has killed MILLIONS of humans for the last 150 years is all 100% confirmed human caused.

But that to you and the other AGW Utopians does not mean a damn thing.



Why don't employ your great science to fix the issues that we all know are certain and real.

Not add more political ideological bullshet to current chaotic mix.

But, SCIENCE can't nor ever will be able to fix this shet:



And you all want to save the world....





OH!!!

Almost forgot this piece of AGW Propaganda.

Nice how NOAA and GISS can manipulate the data as time passes to make their doom AGW point appear, real?

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 19, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Letter: Don't blame the Yarnell fire deaths on climate change

Yarnell memorial-500July 19, 2013

Linking the deaths of 19 firefighters to climate change is opportunistic to say the least.
By Frank Carroll

Regarding your opinion piece on climate change being a factor in the Yarnell wildfire disaster:

I spent 25 years on fire crews and as a hotshot squad boss before retiring in 2011.

An extraordinary blow-up of a wild land fire in Yarnell, Ariz., killed 19 hotshots. Not one hotshot I know believes that climate change was a factor in their deaths, and neither do any in the rest of the firefighting community.

Those men were killed by fuel conditions gone off the rails mixed with urban housing out of control. They were forced into point protection saving homes so people building in the Red Zone could keep thinking they were safe from fire hitting the reset button on periodic fuel build up in the absence of periodic wildfire. Period.

There's good journalism out there about hotshots and who they are. Using the tragedy of the Yarnell 19 to push your agenda is opportunistic to say the least.
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Aug 19, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
The Chief has huffed so much helium that he's hypoxic... either that or he doesn't understand what a standard deviation is (more likely).
He dropped out of grade 10 ... no wonder he's dense.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Aug 19, 2013 - 01:08pm PT



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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 19, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
i can only wonder who on this earth DENIES climate changes??

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 19, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
MUTASS
He dropped out of grade 10 ... no wonder he's dense.

This GREAT Human Being dropped out in the 4th grade


And this one, NEVER went to "School"


They according to you, must then be denser.




PS: Obviously IT IS YOU that is the DENSE one. I NEVER denied that Climate Change exists. Never.

Just that it does not originate from as YOU and YOUR AGW IDEOLOGICAL CROANIES state it does.

But then what do you expect when you live in the trunk of a tree with a bunch of dogs as you do MUTE.

dirtbag

climber
Aug 19, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
Blah blah blah blah. Your problem, chief running mouth, is that you don't understand the science, can't bother to learn the math behind the models, then when you get schooled on it, change the subject with some "who gives a sh#t ?"response, insult the scientists explaining it to you as zealots, and post pics of Cairo, arrogantly presuming that you understand what those people are thinking (Newsflash: you don't).

Frankly this is more of a response than you deseve. You're too arrogant to stfu and listen for a change.


I'll just go back to posting humpy barfing dog photos.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Aug 19, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
What a complete ass you make of yourself on each and every post. To believe that The Dalai Lama had never "been to school" completely discounts his 18+ years of intense religious study, earning him the equivalent of a PhD in Buddhist Mysticism granted only after a 3 MONTH PUBLIC ORAL EXAM. http://hhdl.dharmakara.net/hhdlbiography.html

Lincoln may have dropped out of public education in 4th grade, but he spent years educating himself with the legal and social texts of the day, allowing him to sit for and pass the Bar Exam.

You should follow their examples and not be such a uneducated putz.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 19, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
does human activity contribute in any degree to the current/recent escalation in global warming?

What fking planet do you morons live on??

ReallY??

AGW GCC what ever you want to call it is not even a priority in today's world.

 Humans are slaughtering each other in droves throughout this planet on a daily basis.

 Obesity and Cancer are both killing TENS OF MILLIONS annually.

 We are running out of food and water and area to actually exist on.

AND you clowns are worried about the climate and how we need to change it for the future of our species.

At the rate we humans are behaving today, there aint gonna be a future past 2100 unless we start working on the above issues.

But then YOU idiots that deny all the above REAL TIME CRITICAL issues wouldn't know or understand that.

Just like CHILOE screaming to save the Natives of the North environment. When they have far bigger and devastating problems that need attention. Drug and Alcohol Abuse, 70%+ Unemployment etc.

Idiots. The entire lot of you.


SKEPTICISM,

I suggest you take another hit off of that shet you are smoking. Cus it is definitely some rank ass shet. Probably someone's butthairs.

DIRTBAG,

Your problem is as the rest of your lots, you do not understand reality on planet earth today.

Wake the FK up!
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Aug 19, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
Brilliant retort! You got me there!

Just like the old adage about thinking everyone else is insane, you might try looking in the mirror regarding the intelligence of your detractors...
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 19, 2013 - 03:30pm PT
I'll give you the benefit of doubt Ed and subscribe your lack of real world observations to direction bias from being in the grips of the mass hysteria movement that is CAGW. You said, "the temps did not decrease for decades". Look again at the GISS 1999 graph posted by The Chief and you'll see a decline into the 1970's and then a sudden rise upwards. Other graphs show the pronounced spike of the super El Nino of 1998. Now, what this 1999 graph and many other unaltered temp reconstructions show clearly is that their is no linear increase of temps following increased atmospheric CO2 content. Rather, the global climate responds both immediately and in varying degrees of delayed action to the overpowering forcings of solar maximas and oceanic oscillations. We have now entered a prolonged period of global mean average temp stagnation and solar activity and oceanic oscillations point to the distinct possibility of a pronounced and prolonged cooling period. Sure, their will be localized hot and cold spots, perhaps even more pronounced in the near future from the sharp phase transition we are in, but as the global mean temperature flatline or actual decline of the last dozen years, the prolonged northern hemisphere winter of 2013,the severe European winters of the last 3 years, the recovering sea ice, the distinct polar cooling, the distinct overall u.s. summer 2013 cooling (twice as many cool records versus warm records this year), the growing antartic sea ice and down trending continental temps show, the CO2 forcing is very feeble compared to natural variation.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 19, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
Just like the old adage about thinking everyone else is insane, you might try looking in the mirror regarding the intelligence of your detractors...

No moron. I don't need to look into any mirror cus I have a grasp on what is going on throughout this planet. I partook in it for over 24 years. Lived and breathed it day in and day out.

Unlike you obviously secluded spoiled ass "I-Phone" addicted supposedly educated Scientism Amerikans, I have experienced the realities of this entire planet and know there are far bigger fish to fry before we even think about the climate and how it may impact the future of our species.

Until we start fixing the multitude of issues that face us today, it don't matter how hot or wet or dry it is going to get. Cus we are going to terminate ourselves and we will be long gone before that becomes a REAL issue if we don't.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 19, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^



Chief knows everything. Just ask him!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 19, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
I know not to waste my time trying to do you. It is obvious you want everyone to know that you suck and are looser than. Never mind.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 19, 2013 - 04:55pm PT
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Aug 19, 2013 - 05:05pm PT
And this one, NEVER went to "School"

That's quite an uninformed post re. H.H. the Dalai Lama.

from http://hhdl.dharmakara.net/hhdlbiography.html

The Dalai Lama's education as a Buddhist monk began in earnest when
he was six. **After eighteen years of intense study, he graduated with the
equivalent of a Ph.D in Buddhist metaphysics**. It was granted after a
three-month oral examination in public before thousands of monks and scholars.

In 1958 he took preliminary examinations at each of the three monastic
universities, Drepung, Sera and Ganden. The final examination was held in
1959 at the Jokhang Temple in Lhasa. That morning, the young scholar was
examined by 30 scholars of logic. In the afternoon, he debated Buddhist philosophy
with 15 scholars, and in the evening, 35 more scholars tested
his knowledge of the canon of monastic discipline and metaphysics.

The Dalai Lama passed with honours, attaining the highest academic degree
of Geshe Lharampa, while under intense political pressure from the Chinese to
capitulate to their demands to take over Tibet.

and http://www.dalailama.com/biography/a-brief-biography

His Holiness began his monastic education at the age of six. The
curriculum consisted of five major and five minor subjects. The major
subjects were logic, Tibetan art and culture, Sanskrit, medicine, and
Buddhist philosophy which was further divided into a further five
categories: Prajnaparimita, the perfection of wisdom; Madhyamika, the
philosophy of the middle Way; Vinaya, the canon of monastic discipline;
Abidharma, metaphysics; and Pramana, logic and epistemology. The five
minor subjects were poetry, music and drama, astrology, composition and
phrasing, and synonyms. At 23, His Holiness sat for his final examination
in Lhasa’s Jokhang Temple, during the annual Monlam (prayer) Festival in
1959. He passed with honors and was awarded the Geshe Lharampa degree, the
highest-level degree, equivalent to a doctorate of Buddhist philosophy.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 19, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
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