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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 25, 2009 - 12:59pm PT
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I wonder what he would do if the judge gave him the option of just going out to the range and shooting himself in the other leg as an alternate sentence,..
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Dolomite
climber
Anchorage
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Sep 25, 2009 - 01:00pm PT
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Point taken re my "We don't punish for "what if?" comment. Nonetheless, it looks to me like they're making an example out of the guy.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Sep 25, 2009 - 01:03pm PT
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Any chance there's a security-camera video of this?
I'd love to see Burrris' reaction, especially with sound.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Sep 25, 2009 - 01:25pm PT
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"He's a doofus for sure. But you don't punish a guy for "'what if?'"
Of course you do. Why do you think they arrest and lock up drunk drivers. You just don't let them drive around until they kill someone. I'd like to see a drunk driver argue for a lighter sentence because they only injured themselves.
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dmalloy
Trad climber
eastside
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Sep 25, 2009 - 01:29pm PT
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if it was a white NFL receiver (don't laugh, there are a few...), would fattrad call him a "hood thug"? Not trying to call you a racist or anything, but it seems worthwhile to point out when one of us slides from rational discussion to negative, uninformed stereotype.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Sep 25, 2009 - 01:37pm PT
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White troublemakers come from trailer parks.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 25, 2009 - 01:40pm PT
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I think the judge was trying to crack down on black on black violence.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Sep 25, 2009 - 02:24pm PT
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Actually, he got off light. I you read the judges sentencing document, you will see that he only got six months for the gun crime, but an additional eighteen months for using the name "Plaxico"....
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sween345
climber
back east
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Sep 25, 2009 - 10:48pm PT
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Lest we not forget his sidekick that night, his team mate, the linebacker. This good pal took the offending firearm back to New Jersey, then had his lawyer try to use it as bargaining leverage for immunity. Those guys with the robes just love when you try to strongarm the law.
His defense should be "Wouldn't you help your friend out"
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2009 - 08:16am PT
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I think the guy was an idiot and a dangerous idiot but fer christ sake people serve less time for vehiculer manslaughter. the intent of the law is to give mandatory jail time to hoods with illeagle guns that are used for knocking off liquor stores and gangbanging etc. this gun was purchaced legaly, the paper work was in order but then expired. that is a whole diferent level of violation INMOP from the gun bought in a back alley and carried with the intent to commit a crime. Stupid, hell yes. Dangerous, hell yes! deserving of some jail time? probobly. 2 years of your life is a lond time for a crime that was not commited with bad intent. Look at your own life, think of all that you have accomplished in the last 2 years and then think of that same time in jail. then you can spray about sending annother human to jail for that same ammount of time think about what that will accomplish good or bad... the guy allready lost his job....
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 26, 2009 - 11:09am PT
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Its all the parents' fault.
They should go to jail for giving their son a stupid name.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2009 - 07:02pm PT
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He must have passed some sort of test to get that permit. Whomever the instructor was who passed that idiot should share a bit of that jail time;)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2009 - 08:18pm PT
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One of the guys from E company 506th Regement 101st Airborn made it throgh all kinds of crazy combat from Normandy to Holland and Overloard and then finaly the Ardens. He got a Luger off of a German officer, stuck it in his pants, shot himself in the femural artery and bled out.. True story, not Hollywood. When my dad was on the ship headded for WWll one of the guys shot himself in the foot with a .45acp with the intent of getting out of combat. He ended up getting a blood clot or some sort of complication from the foot wound and dying...
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 26, 2009 - 09:04pm PT
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TMC,
Lugers are cool but they're not THAT cool.
For one thing; if the krauts captured you with one you were shot on the spot.
Nice instinctive shooters, but too many moving parts, tolerances to tight for grit in the field, underpowered (though still quite lethal).
One guy who posts here thinks waist packs are fruity and carries inside the pants, but I say "Who's the fruit? And who's gonna be the fruitee?"
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2009 - 09:26pm PT
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My dad brought a P38 back but pawned it allong with his medals for drinking money in NYC BITD When i read tha account of that Paratrooper shooting himself in the thigh and bleading out it floored me because of all the stuff the guy had been through up to that point. Won't EVER catch me carrying with one up just stuck in the belt ever again. after reading that little bit..
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 26, 2009 - 11:11pm PT
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If it goes into the pants (and that only just as exigent circumstances dictate) the chamber is empty first.
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