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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Mar 13, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
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The real question is not "why does everyone hate Christianity so much?".
The question should be why does Christianity hate everybody else so much.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 29, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
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Why do so many liberals, who (as a group) claim to embrace diversity, promote tolerance of divergent views and take offense at the merely hint of racism or LGBT derision
Because that is anti-Christian.
When coming from Christians, it is hypocrisy.
And it worries people. If a Christian ignores one major precept (love), why will they not ignore all of the Commandments, if convenient?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Mar 29, 2014 - 06:39pm PT
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Why do so many liberals, who (as a group) claim to embrace diversity, promote tolerance of divergent views and take offense at the merely hint of racism or LGBT derision
Why don't so many conservatives do the same?
who don't they believe the same as "liberals" on those issues?
isn't that what Christ preached?
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Mar 29, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
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Why do so many liberals, who (as a group) claim to embrace diversity, promote tolerance of divergent views and take offense at the merely hint of racism or LGBT derision... why do so many of them think it's acceptable to completely abandon those principles and resort to hateful, offensive bigotry when it comes to Christians and Christianity?
Because they are hypocrites . As are all major political players. And the intolerance is not just confined to Christians but to any opposition that stands in their way.
They view Christians as representing a set of values which the western liberal establishment has targeted for demolition, much like the various factions of Marxism attempted to accomplish by outlawing religion (the opiate of the masses) as a matter of course in the old Soviet Union and Maoist China.
At the present time the representatives of this type of political thinking cannot outlaw Christianity ---so they're going to attempt to stomp it into oblivion. One cannot stomp something into oblivion and tolerate it at the same time. Hence, they've opened up a full court press on religious culture. Science is their big 7 ft. guy playing center for the team. The old Leninist/Stalinist Bolsheviks use to call him "scientific materialism"
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Mar 29, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
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Many christians are still latching onto the days when they were lion feed and love playing the victim..The truth is that some of the more vocal christians have control issues and pretend that the rest of society are their subjects..Same thinking as the Muslims that want to kill non-believers...Too bad mankind has to deal with both extremists..The barbeque would be more peaceful without these yellow jackets buzzing about...
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO
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"Because of the way Christians behave."
Gandhi was once asked by a Christian, "What religion has the best philosophy?"
"Christianity," he said.
The Christian then asked, "Why then aren't' you a Christian?"
"Because I've seen how Christians behave," Mahatma explained.
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TYeary
Social climber
State of decay
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“Tell a devout Christian that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt can make a man invisible, and he is likely to require as much evidence as anyone else, and to be persuaded only to the extent that you give it. Tell him that the book he keeps by his bed was written by an invisible deity who will punish him with fire for eternity if he fails to accept its every incredible claim about the universe, and he seems to require no evidence what so ever.”
― Sam Harris
Religion belongs in the dark ages, the infancy of man.
TY
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Religion belongs in the dark ages, the infancy of man.
We are all grown up now? Really?
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TYeary
Social climber
State of decay
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We are all grown up now? Really?
Hardly. However, if we are to grow, to move forward, we need to discard those things that are divisive. The dogma and totalitarian nature of religion is an albatross around our necks.We have a choice. We have two options as human beings. We have a choice between conversation and war. That's it. Conversation and violence. And faith is a conversation stopper.
TY
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Apr 7, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
Even other Chistians hate the Vatican.
I see your problem, right there in that sentence.
And its true, there's the rub!!!!
;D
All too true.
DMT
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Got it.
My problem is I spoke the truth.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Hardly. However, if we are to grow, to move forward, we need to discard those things that are divisive. The dogma and totalitarian nature of religion is an albatross around our necks.We have a choice. We have two options as human beings. We have a choice between conversation and war. That's it. Conversation and violence. And faith is a conversation stopper.
Faith is ALL about conversation and an openmind! Seems as though you don't know ur history all that well? It is the belief in God that has propelled mankind forward since the advent of the printing press. It was a belief in God that enables you to live in the freedoms today you take for granted. It was a belief in God that abolished slavery In this country. It was a belief in God that started the first Universities for the progression of mans mind. I could go on and on. But you don't want to listen or talk. You want to war. You want to force your opinions with violence because you can't see what I have. I have a total grasp on life and humanity and I hold them in high esteem and I give thanks and praise to The Lord Jesus for bringing me out of the bondage of being an animal. Your blinded by hate for something you don't even understand.
Ur right, we all need to grow. But you can't know where ur going if you don't know where you been!
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TYeary
Social climber
State of decay
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Faith is ALL about conversation and an openmind!
History is littered with untold number of corpses that did not enjoy the benefit of your "open minded "faith. Crusades, Inquisition, the subjugation of women( half the human race) and on and on. Perhaps it is you who needs a history refresher. I have never heard of an atheist suicide bomber. Nor have we burned , drowned or murdered because of our lack of faith. Good men do good things and bad men do bad things. It takes religion to make good men do bad things.
TY
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
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Can I find the answer to the original question without having to read the whole thread?
Also, if anyone has time. Since 'everyone' would include Christians, just the answer to why Christians hate Christianity so much would help.
-St. Augustine
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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A bunch of finger wagging hypocrites.
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TYeary
Social climber
State of decay
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Rankin nails it.
And by the way, morality, our concept of The Golden Rule or ethic of reciprocity, predates Christianity by at least 800 years depending on your source. The Golden Rule can be found in the early contributions of Confucianism (551–479BC), the Code of Hammurabi (1780 BC) ancient China, Egypt and Greece.
"There are sections of the Bible that I think are absolutely brilliant and poetically unrivaled, and there are sections of the Bible which are the sheerest barbarism, yet profess to prescribe a divinely mandated morality—where do I start? Books like Leviticus and Deuteronomy and Exodus and First and Second Kings and Second Samuel—half of the kings and prophets of Israel would be taken to The Hague and prosecuted for crimes against humanity if these events took place in our own time." Sam Harris
The Bible and the Koran are hardly a beacons of morality.
TY
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Are you suggesting that a aspiration to a high moral standard is not possible without belief in a particular god, rather than another god or no god at all?
Not particularly. Any man can posses the same moral equivalency as his neighbor or village if he so partakes. But for the example of slavery. Lincoln was just the signer of the bill. It was a Scottish Protestant who hearing a sermon form the bible on how all men are created equal was he inspired to argue and fight for the rights of black people. Prolly the first white man to profess that the black man was created in the image of God. At the time This was a slap in the face to everyone. Atheist and religious alike. Slavery was socially accepted by all and commonplace. So even the religious had it wrong and by no means am I sticking up for all people who claim to be religious or Christians.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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if these events took place in our own time." Sam Harris
That's just it, the whole bible HAS to be taken in context. The Old Testament was written for people from 0 AD - 10,000 BCE. The New Testament was written for now. That's not to say we're to disregard the OT. There are many lessons we can learn of Gods character and that of mans. Whenever you hear people down talking the bible because what is said in the OT they haven't a clue about Christianity.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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You want to war. You want to force your opinions with violence because you can't see what I have. I have a total grasp on life and humanity...
This is the scary part.
Refers back to my post a couple weeks ago. I thank Fate, Reason and Science every day compassionate and peace-loving Christians and Muslims who take the bible's supernaturalisms literally don't have the numbers to create law if not fatwa in this democracy.
Don't let em fool you.
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