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Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 8, 2013 - 12:42am PT
Where are they now?

Marduk . . . Sol Invictus

Ignored, Forgotten, Dead
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:01am PT
God, or gods, or whatever you need to label it, if you need to label it, exists whenever you wonder... or ponder ... or consider ... or maybe even dream.

You create it, and are perhaps it.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:02am PT
Ignored, Forgotten, Dead

^^^ that's a fact jack!
Because you can't have material spiritualism.
That's why wen the Catholics and mormans and Muslims run out of money, they'all will be forgotten too.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:05am PT
TE
Everything is labeled precisely in the bible

It's up to you to read it or not
WBraun

climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:35am PT
Just see intelligent person shows up ^^^^

After that stupid rabid dog stopped barking at the white space in his twisted head.

Somebody must of threw a rock at the dog over the fence ....
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:54am PT
Blue, the flaw in the Bible may be in its alleged precision that you allude to. A topo can also contain such flaws...

... "oh my God, this rating is so Old Testament, and the pins are rusting!!!"
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:56am PT

Ignored, Forgotten, Dead

^^^ that's a fact jack!
Because you can't have material spiritualism.
That's why wen the Catholicism and Mormonism and Muslimism run out of money, they'all will be forgotten too.

Edit: I had to fix this. I did not realize intelligent people were watching.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:59am PT

... "oh my God, this rating is so Old Testament, and the pins are rusting!!!"

That's why it's ALL A3+
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 8, 2013 - 04:25am PT
Had to stay up late to catch my Cinnamon Dream,

Esperanza Spalding.

I call out all you mechanicalist to go sit in the corner with earbuds positioned, cranked to 10.
And listen to Esperanza Spalding with the score card in hand and determine what the outcome will be. How could anyone besides maybe hitler could say humans are mechcanicalistic? After listening to that music, that voice, and Ingard Thomas' trumpet.
That's sentience BABY!! Bending the Body, and Bending the Notes!


Edit: BTW, you can catch a live version on PBS/SoCal. And BTW is the only tv worth watching. Have you seen their programs on the brain, or the one on climate change?
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 8, 2013 - 04:58am PT
The real challenge is that human experience is unlike any other known "thing" on the universe.

Is it?

Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Sep 8, 2013 - 08:05am PT
BTW what does the Miller-Urey experiment have to do with anything?

Did you click the link to the wiki page I provided? If you didn't understand the material presented, then you would benefit from taking an organic chemistry class.

If you're just having problems following the logic of: basic ingredients + energy -(millions of years)-> amino acids/nucleotides -(millions of years)-> RNA/DNA -(millions of years)-> early life form -(millions of years of natural selection)-> more complex life forms -(millions of years of natural selection)-> basic neural control system -(millions of years)-> reptilian brain -(millions of years)-> increasing complexity of the brain/control system -(millions of years)-> intelligence -(thousands of years)-> extinction by overpopulation/industrialization because we learned to control our environment but not our waste (oops, thread drift!), then I can't help you.

Tra-la-la!
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Sep 8, 2013 - 08:08am PT
That's why wen the Catholicism and Mormonism and Muslimism run out of money, they'all will be forgotten too.

Edit: I had to fix this. I did not realize intelligent people were watching.

Probably should've had one of them help you...
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 8, 2013 - 09:59am PT
“Ideology and religion are contraindicated for fanatics.”
Ilkin Santak
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Sep 8, 2013 - 10:33am PT

Malemute, is there some fund I can contribute to so you'll be able to continue pissing off Werner?
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 8, 2013 - 10:45am PT
http://www.yosemiteclimbing.org/
yosemite climbing association, paypal
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 02:48pm PT
basic ingredients + energy> amino acids

Is the the only experimental product of the Miller-Urey experiment you listed.

It does not prove that life arose by chance , or independent of chance, or by design.
It merely concludes that if you simulate what was "thought " to be the primordial conditions on Earth roughly 3 billion years ago you get organic constituents from inorganic precursors.

Actually you don't even need the precise conditions Miller-Urey simulated since amino acids have also been discovered within meteorites.

As regards the Miller-Urey experiment your flow chart was largely a waste of time, except as a hypothesis and a leap of faith.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Potemkin Village
Sep 8, 2013 - 03:05pm PT
It does not prove that life arose by chance , or independent of chance, or by design... waste of time, except as a hypothesis...

Please, stop. You're an embarrassment.

If you're interested in these subjects, take the courses.

.....

P.S.

You, too, go-b. Prove to the world you're not as bronze-age minded as a billion-plus fundamentalist Muslims.

I mean, seriously, how can you be proud of the fact that your thinking in religion or theology is no more advanced than that of these billion-plus fundamentalist Muslims? or their ancient ME ancestors?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
If you're interested in these subjects, take the courses.

Make your argument to refute anything I have asserted about the Miller-Urey experiment .

Put it in your own words---for a change.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Potemkin Village
Sep 8, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
I wouldn't argue with you any more than go-b or blu - you're a waste of time.

.....

For the more discriminating, who follow the frequent dust-ups between science and the humanities, you might enjoy...

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114548/leon-wieseltier-responds-steven-pinkers-scientism

Note that this piece might have some talking points for Largo, Sullly.

It follows a great article Steven Pinker wrote same magazine a few weeks earlier...

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114127/science-not-enemy-humanities


It's all, shall we say, graduate level, more or less. ;)
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 8, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
^^^^^
Please, stop. You're an embarrassment.

If you're interested in these subjects, go to church.
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