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Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:02am PT
"Whatever we cannot easily understand we call God; this saves much wear and tear on the brain tissues. . . . Belief in the supernatural reflects a failure of the imagination."
Edward Abbey
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:05am PT
"In those parts of the world where learning and science have prevailed, miracles have ceased; but in those parts of it as are barbarous and ignorant, miracles are still in vogue."
Ethan Allen, American Revolutionary War hero
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:09am PT
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
"Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly."

Isaac Asimov
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:21am PT
"It is not possible to be intellectually honest and believe in gods. And it is not possible to believe in gods and be a true scientist."
"Religion closes off the central questions of existence by attempting to dissuade us from further enquiry by asserting that we cannot ever hope to comprehend. We are, religion asserts, simply too puny. Through fear of being shown to be vacuous, religion denies the awesome power of human comprehension. It seeks to thwart, by encouraging awe in things unseen, the disclosure of the emptiness of faith.... Science opens up the great questions of being to rational discussion.... Science, above all, respects the power of the human intellect.... Science respects more deeply the potential of humanity than religion ever can."
Peter William Atkins
WBraun

climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:25am PT
"A true scientist will find/see God."

"A true intellectually honest person will come into contact with God."

 the duck ......
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:27am PT
That consciousness thing is a tough one...
WBraun

climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:30am PT
That consciousness thing is a tough one...


No it isn't.

It's very simple to understand.

We're just plain stupid .....
Decko

Trad climber
Colorado
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:31am PT
Yawn........

When your dead your dead......

No book full of stories can make me believe there is anything else after that.



















Personally I think religions and the belief of an after life cause your a believer is the biggest load of horse sh#t out there





We are all carbon based life forms that have evolved its proof.......




Show me proof all the earth holds and is was created in 7 days and well that's a great tale to hear.........








Ur gonna die



That and taxes are for certain.......

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:38am PT
Can't see it having it's own thread, but climbing and religion related;

Once home to Stylites, the Katskhi Pillar had remained derelict for centuries, and it was only in 1944 that a team of climbers scaled the tower, finding at the top the skeleton of its last occupant. Mr Qavtaradze moved in 1993 after taking his monastic vows, and found it moved him closer to God and help banish a troubled past.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/10291740/The-monk-who-lives-up-a-rock-to-get-closer-to-God.html
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 7, 2013 - 01:16am PT
I hope before I die I can gain the intelligence you'all posses so as to understand that all life came to be by chance. The sheer luck in the roll of the dice. That all this energy is for not. Just an exasperation. And nothing is reaped from all that was sown. That all emotional investment was wasted breath. And the pure accumulation of information is the crown achievement.
When my eyes close for the last time, I'll.......




Forget?





locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Sep 7, 2013 - 10:38am PT

"When my eyes close for the last time, I'll.......

Forget?"
...



END would probably be a better fit...



;-)


"Yer GONNA die!!!...

locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Sep 7, 2013 - 10:41am PT


"A true scientist will find/see God."...



Something only a STUPID AMERICAN DUCK would write...

;-)

WBraun

climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 11:07am PT
The stupid atheistic dog Malemute is quoting Socrates who was one of the most advanced intelligent God conscious people around.

This shows and proves he doesn't even understand his own arguments nor the people he is using.

This to be expected from a stupid dog ......
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Sep 7, 2013 - 11:13am PT


"This to be expected from a stupid dog ......"...


LOL!!!...

Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Sep 7, 2013 - 11:30am PT
"What was God doing ... for an eternity ... before He created the universe ex nihilo? God existed by Himself through an eternity ... without needing a universe. Why did He suddenly desire to create the universe?" (He got hungry and needed someplace to order pizza from?)
Peter A. Angeles
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 7, 2013 - 11:38am PT
Not too surprisingly the duck it appears, is a myth.

Howard the Duck
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the character and comic book series. For the film adaptation, see Howard the Duck (film).



Howard the Duck #8 (Jan. 1977),
Cover art by Gene Colan and Steve Leialoha.
Publication information
Publisher Marvel Comics
First appearance Adventure into Fear #19 (Dec. 1973)
Created by Steve Gerber and Val Mayerik
In-story information
Alter ego Howard
Team affiliations Defenders
All-Night Party
Daydreamers
A.R.M.O.R.
Fearsome Four
Notable aliases Son of Satan
Abilities Master of Quack-Fu
via Iron Duck armor: superhuman strength, chest-mounted searchlight, foot-mounted leaping coils, flame-thrower



Howard the Duck is a comic book character in the Marvel Comics universe created by writer Steve Gerber and artist Val Mayerik. The character first appeared in Adventure into Fear #19 (Dec. 1973) and several subsequent series have chronicled the misadventures of the ill-tempered, anthropomorphic, "funny animal" trapped on human-dominated Earth. Howard's adventures are generally social satires, while a few are parodies of genre fiction with a metafictional awareness of the medium. The book is existentialist, and its main joke, according to Gerber, is that there is no joke: "that life's most serious moments and most incredibly dumb moments are often distinguishable only by a momentary point of view."[1] This is diametrically opposed to screenwriter Gloria Katz, who in adapting the comic to the screen declared, "It's a film about a duck from outer space... It's not supposed to be an existential experience".[2]

The notable alias son of satan should cause some consternation for Blue Blocker!
MH2

climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
I though Howard the Duck was a film about a guy who could clear a traffic jam by eyeball blasting the cars in front.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
No MH2. As you can clearly see the duck is a....


ill-tempered, anthropomorphic, "funny animal" trapped on human-dominated Earth.
MH2

climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Now I get it.
MH2

climber
Sep 7, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Why do you think you have been assigned that seat in the corner, dude? To gather the empirical evidence your own self, rather than to take some one's word for it, or read a print out of it off a machine.

Not even close. Yo didn't read what I said - that awareness is not contingent on "content," or the mind's interaction with people, places or things, nor yet with thoughts. Ergo, matter does in fact NOT require an interaction to be "aware,' since it IS aware to begin with.
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