Cragman
Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
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I'd pay good $ to watch Donini drag me up 3 pitches!!!!!
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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I would be surprised if some comp climbers in the 90's didn't use them.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Meanwhile, steriods is known to cause a wide assortment of long term problems. Put down the dianabol and go get a cheeseburger, Davis.
Yes, many long term problems. It can f*#k you up. Likely won't ever kill you, unless you kinda make it a goal.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Obese-people-at-29-higher-risk-of-premature-death/articleshow/17871603.cms
Being grossly overweight can kill you. A little chunky? All good, and kinda sexy sometimes. But let's get real - not as big a problem as many would persist. I know climbers that blew their shoulders out on a campus board, or got into crossfit and wreaked havoc on their body. For those people they were dangerous activities to be avoided, maybe if they had better instruction they would have used 'em correctly but alas... they are on the couch now.
Sorry, world isn't black and white. : /
Steroids - average of 3 deaths per year. Wanna stab at how many die from peanuts?
(edit - it was Stanzolol, and now I have big biceps!)
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Rudbud
Gym climber
CA
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There's a ton of super strong climbers these days but the really strong guys in the eighties look a little more muscular, were some of them doping?
Or was it just the difference in training. Either way the eighties rocked.
edit: I figured it out, It was the tube socks, short shorts, and tank tops that made them look so bad ass, not roids.
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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See, I told you
All the wide crack climbers have skidaddled
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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During the 80s, Eduro training as an end-in-itself came into its own as a separate sub-sport. So people tortured themselves in a number of arenas outside of rock climbing itself. As a result people got more buffed out. Today, climbers train doing exercises that are more rock-climbing specific, like campusing, that make for better climbing athletes. But you're right, you don't get that old muscle beach Venice feeling in C4 as much as you used to do BITD when people seemed more inclined to use their fists in anger.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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There's a ton of super strong climbers these days but the really strong guys in the eighties look a little more muscular, were some of them doping?
1) mullets make you look more buffed.
2) doping isn't always to make you muscular
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bjj
climber
beyond the sun
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I am 44 and I take both "steroids" (technically it is "TRT" but they are one in the same) to raise my low testosterone levels from 290 (that of a 65 yr old) to about 900 (that of a 20 yr old) as well as HGH to help stimulate connective tissue healing and whatever other effects it has.
The effects have been very positive, without being superhuman or anything.
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