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Riotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 3, 2009 - 07:57am PT
Know of any? Past or present?

A friend and I were discussing this, and I realized that I have almost never heard or read much discussion of this issue in the climbing community.

I know that if I learned that so and so's significant ascent was aided by steroids, I might be a little disappointed.

C'mon, let's hear the dirt . . .
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Apr 3, 2009 - 09:32am PT
Maybe post this on Sports Illustrated or ESPN, you might get some traffic on it. I know of a lot of climbers on SED's(sports enhancement drugs)steroids are so passe. Back in the 70's and 80's "some" climbers did various drugs to get up rocks, does this count? I also know a lot of climbers on hemroids!
Peace
5am PST, you must be on roids, should be snoozin. Maybe look up some old data in Rock and Ice, I think I have some old copies that discussed steriods and such. We gonna delete all first ascents if you find out someone took em
Gene

climber
Apr 3, 2009 - 09:34am PT
Guilty. I once had a cortisone shot in my shoulder.
Anastasia

climber
Not here
Apr 3, 2009 - 10:14am PT
Most of us are hyperactive. We need to calm down! Reason why most of us are stoners. If you mix steroids with climbers they will turn into modern equipped Viking Raiders.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
Sprocketville
Apr 3, 2009 - 11:33am PT
State vs Stoner...State vs Stoner...Are you Stoner?
Ahhhh, yyaaaahhhhh, man.
Like I only did acid, like ... ten times man.
I mean once, man.

I get my blood changed before each season.
Keeps me from getting cold.
More iron. It's all about the iron.

Hans and the Hubers are JUICED man!
Look at the shrunken nut sacks.
Face like a jellyfish.
Barry Bonds face.
RDB

Trad climber
Iss WA
Apr 3, 2009 - 11:38am PT
Knew one years ago but he was off the juice by the time he started climbing and no one thought much about it. Pretty obvious looking back now though.
Russ Walling

Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
Apr 3, 2009 - 11:56am PT

Oh yeah... there have been juicers, but I'm not going to go all Canseco on them.

Of course that was before steroids were illegal in climbing, and before Major League Climbing started checking for steroids.
Reilly

Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
Apr 3, 2009 - 12:53pm PT
It is abundantly clear Norman Clyde was juicing.
Pretty sure about John Salathe too, carrots if I'm not mistaken.

Edit:
Oh yeah, Whillans too.
Riotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2009 - 01:53pm PT
I think Russ' response is the most revealing.































I knew it! Climbing's dirty little secret . . .
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Apr 3, 2009 - 03:13pm PT
Uh Russ juiced! All the signs and symptoms....what's that gonadotrophy thingamajig and gynomastoidism junk. Fess up Fish, isn't that when you went into the hard sport route era of yers?
Peace

Riotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2009 - 04:34pm PT
Maybe we need to institute the FNSFA (First Non-steroidal Free Ascent) for certain climbs . . . ?
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Apr 3, 2009 - 04:50pm PT
Well.


If your over 45 most men can get test perscibed by a doctor. I think there are some anti-aging clincs that will get older men scripts for hgh also.



I've read about some of the sh#t juicing powerlifters and BBers take its pretty gross. HGH, and insulin, test..and a bunch of other sh#t. Still who cares? It's their body..


Its pretty commom for people in society to deem anyone who's musclar as juicing....which is just silly. Still I don't want to put that crap in my body. I prefer beer..


I know stalone admited to hgh use. Did that help him crank harder in cliffhanger..bwahh ha ha ha!
Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
Apr 3, 2009 - 04:52pm PT
Not me, I hear it shrinks your nutz...I need all those BIG PIECES when I climb!
Mr_T

Trad climber
The 7th Pin Scar on Serentiy Crack
Apr 3, 2009 - 05:03pm PT
I sure hope no climbers are trying the juice. This page has a pretty interesting somewhat medical approach to how it's done:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsteroids.htm

If you read through the bit on say Testosterone Suspension or Equipoise you'll realize how insanely dangerous these things are. Injecting yourself with horse growth hormones - what could possibly go wrong?
Brock

Trad climber
RENO, NV
Apr 3, 2009 - 11:25pm PT
I think many people on steroids have blown tendons/ligaments...Don't know the research on it.

I think caffeine has a better/cleaner effect...

Look at Tom Herbert M.D.'s past write up on enhancing products for climbers (not sure if it was Climbing or Rock & Ice).


G_Gnome

Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
Apr 4, 2009 - 01:07am PT
Yeah, yeah, I use them. So what.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Apr 4, 2009 - 01:34am PT
you were just worried russ was gonna go all Canseco on you and out you. good job fessin' up
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Apr 4, 2009 - 01:55am PT
I knew a guy in Colorado who used them specifically to be a better climber. He put up a few noteworthy ascents in Eldorado, but was never one of the top climbers in the area though using steroids was his attempt to gain that status.

Bruce
Larry

Trad climber
Bisbee
Apr 4, 2009 - 10:15am PT
Riotch > Maybe we need to institute the FNSFA (First Non-steroidal Free Ascent) for certain climbs . . . ?

Why do you think so many routes have asterisks by the name in the book?
Riotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2009 - 10:17am PT
OH! So, that's what those mean!
Rudbud

Gym climber
CA
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
Bump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=k5phfBjvTRY

Is this guy just a freak or was he juicing?

Any stories out there of climbers on roids putting up FA's back in the day?
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
Steroids induced HISSY FITS on forums is a major side effect! Stay off this shit!
this just in

climber
north fork
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:20pm PT
People who keep talking about hissy fits are having one. Steriods, who gives a sh#t.
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
3 year post bump for this subject? Really?

IMO there is a lot better content out there to resurrect.
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Blood Doping, juicin ain't good for the Huevos.

Rudbud

Gym climber
CA
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:47pm PT
thanks for the bumps, any old guys got any stories.
Hey Vegas girl and this was in your in the wrong forum for hissy fits, roid rages are ok here though.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
3 year post bump for this subject? Really?

IMO there is a lot better content out there to resurrect.

Fact - being fat will kill you long before steroids ever will.

It's fascinating how performance enhancing drugs are viewed in our culture. If it makes you happy and you enjoy it do it, if test can make you achieve your dreams and you are being responsible the more power to you. What about people with rich parents, or a backyard gym, or a home campus board, or that live in Yosemite? There are no unfair advantages, just advantages and disadvantages. You take what ones you feel are appropriate for you and reserve judgement for the Christians. Be honest about your accomplishments, but have fun, man. We don't live forever.

I don't use those drugs but I can't say I would never. At this stage I am still young and recover normally (only 28), but if I want to be rad at 50 and I got cash I'd get TRT.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
Be honest about your accomplishments

Well, that's the crux now isn't it?
jogill

climber
Colorado
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
Steroids=big muscles=heavier body. Conclusion?


;>)
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:23pm PT
Body by roids.....of the HEM variety! This is what happens when you can't sit down!

:)

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locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:30pm PT

^^^

Sport Climber...





EDITED:

and I am now, LITTERALLY, "a climber on steroids" as just today, for lung issues, I have been prescibed, inhaled DAILY steroids...

But of course, NOT the same type...

;-)

Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
Home wall climber.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:32pm PT

"Home wall climber."...

Totally NEW category...

and new saying...


"Home Wall Climbing, IS"...
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
I'd pay good $ to watch Donini and Cragman go 3 rounds.
thekidcormier

Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:56pm PT
Do LSD slivers count as performance enhancing?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jan 3, 2013 - 07:56pm PT

Fact - being fat will kill you long before steroids ever will.

Fact: You don't know WTF you're talking about.

Moderately overweight people actually survive some things (heart attacks, for instance) better than skinnier people. And there's this :

"scientists also found that people classified as overweight, with a BMI of 25 to 29.9, died at slightly lower rates not higher than those of so-called normal weight. And they found that those who were mildly obese, with a BMI of 30 to 34.9, died in no greater numbers than did their normal-weight peers."

"The finding, published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Assn., pooled data from 97 studies encompassing adult men and women in the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, China, Taiwan, Japan, Brazil, India and Mexico."

Meanwhile, steriods is known to cause a wide assortment of long term problems. Put down the dianabol and go get a cheeseburger, Davis.




Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:17pm PT
How can you tell if a Climber is juicing??

They like wide cracks!

and they think they are special because they can climb/enjoy wide cracks!!!

Well we all know the secret now.
Thanks Dr. F
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
LSD is a performance enhancing drug.
thekidcormier

Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
Yum, drugs are great.
Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
HGH is good for you. Isn't it?
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
I'd pay good $ to watch Donini drag me up 3 pitches!!!!!
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
I would be surprised if some comp climbers in the 90's didn't use them.

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
Meanwhile, steriods is known to cause a wide assortment of long term problems. Put down the dianabol and go get a cheeseburger, Davis.

Yes, many long term problems. It can f*#k you up. Likely won't ever kill you, unless you kinda make it a goal.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Obese-people-at-29-higher-risk-of-premature-death/articleshow/17871603.cms


Being grossly overweight can kill you. A little chunky? All good, and kinda sexy sometimes. But let's get real - not as big a problem as many would persist. I know climbers that blew their shoulders out on a campus board, or got into crossfit and wreaked havoc on their body. For those people they were dangerous activities to be avoided, maybe if they had better instruction they would have used 'em correctly but alas... they are on the couch now.

Sorry, world isn't black and white. : /

Steroids - average of 3 deaths per year. Wanna stab at how many die from peanuts?

(edit - it was Stanzolol, and now I have big biceps!)
Rudbud

Gym climber
CA
Jan 3, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
There's a ton of super strong climbers these days but the really strong guys in the eighties look a little more muscular, were some of them doping?
Or was it just the difference in training. Either way the eighties rocked.

edit: I figured it out, It was the tube socks, short shorts, and tank tops that made them look so bad ass, not roids.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Jan 3, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
See, I told you
All the wide crack climbers have skidaddled
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jan 3, 2013 - 11:50pm PT
During the 80s, Eduro training as an end-in-itself came into its own as a separate sub-sport. So people tortured themselves in a number of arenas outside of rock climbing itself. As a result people got more buffed out. Today, climbers train doing exercises that are more rock-climbing specific, like campusing, that make for better climbing athletes. But you're right, you don't get that old muscle beach Venice feeling in C4 as much as you used to do BITD when people seemed more inclined to use their fists in anger.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:02am PT
There's a ton of super strong climbers these days but the really strong guys in the eighties look a little more muscular, were some of them doping?

1) mullets make you look more buffed.

2) doping isn't always to make you muscular

Credit: not mine
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
I am 44 and I take both "steroids" (technically it is "TRT" but they are one in the same) to raise my low testosterone levels from 290 (that of a 65 yr old) to about 900 (that of a 20 yr old) as well as HGH to help stimulate connective tissue healing and whatever other effects it has.

The effects have been very positive, without being superhuman or anything.

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