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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Steroids induced HISSY FITS on forums is a major side effect! Stay off this shit!
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this just in
climber
north fork
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People who keep talking about hissy fits are having one. Steriods, who gives a sh#t.
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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3 year post bump for this subject? Really?
IMO there is a lot better content out there to resurrect.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Blood Doping, juicin ain't good for the Huevos.
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Rudbud
Gym climber
CA
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thanks for the bumps, any old guys got any stories.
Hey Vegas girl and this was in your in the wrong forum for hissy fits, roid rages are ok here though.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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3 year post bump for this subject? Really?
IMO there is a lot better content out there to resurrect.
Fact - being fat will kill you long before steroids ever will.
It's fascinating how performance enhancing drugs are viewed in our culture. If it makes you happy and you enjoy it do it, if test can make you achieve your dreams and you are being responsible the more power to you. What about people with rich parents, or a backyard gym, or a home campus board, or that live in Yosemite? There are no unfair advantages, just advantages and disadvantages. You take what ones you feel are appropriate for you and reserve judgement for the Christians. Be honest about your accomplishments, but have fun, man. We don't live forever.
I don't use those drugs but I can't say I would never. At this stage I am still young and recover normally (only 28), but if I want to be rad at 50 and I got cash I'd get TRT.
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Be honest about your accomplishments
Well, that's the crux now isn't it?
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Steroids=big muscles=heavier body. Conclusion?
;>)
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thekidcormier
Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
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Do LSD slivers count as performance enhancing?
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Fact - being fat will kill you long before steroids ever will.
Fact: You don't know WTF you're talking about.
Moderately overweight people actually survive some things (heart attacks, for instance) better than skinnier people. And there's this :
"scientists also found that people classified as overweight, with a BMI of 25 to 29.9, died at slightly lower rates — not higher — than those of so-called normal weight. And they found that those who were mildly obese, with a BMI of 30 to 34.9, died in no greater numbers than did their normal-weight peers."
"The finding, published online Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Assn., pooled data from 97 studies encompassing adult men and women in the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, China, Taiwan, Japan, Brazil, India and Mexico."
Meanwhile, steriods is known to cause a wide assortment of long term problems. Put down the dianabol and go get a cheeseburger, Davis.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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LSD is a performance enhancing drug.
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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HGH is good for you. Isn't it?
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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I would be surprised if some comp climbers in the 90's didn't use them.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Meanwhile, steriods is known to cause a wide assortment of long term problems. Put down the dianabol and go get a cheeseburger, Davis.
Yes, many long term problems. It can f*#k you up. Likely won't ever kill you, unless you kinda make it a goal.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Obese-people-at-29-higher-risk-of-premature-death/articleshow/17871603.cms
Being grossly overweight can kill you. A little chunky? All good, and kinda sexy sometimes. But let's get real - not as big a problem as many would persist. I know climbers that blew their shoulders out on a campus board, or got into crossfit and wreaked havoc on their body. For those people they were dangerous activities to be avoided, maybe if they had better instruction they would have used 'em correctly but alas... they are on the couch now.
Sorry, world isn't black and white. : /
Steroids - average of 3 deaths per year. Wanna stab at how many die from peanuts?
(edit - it was Stanzolol, and now I have big biceps!)
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Rudbud
Gym climber
CA
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There's a ton of super strong climbers these days but the really strong guys in the eighties look a little more muscular, were some of them doping?
Or was it just the difference in training. Either way the eighties rocked.
edit: I figured it out, It was the tube socks, short shorts, and tank tops that made them look so bad ass, not roids.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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During the 80s, Eduro training as an end-in-itself came into its own as a separate sub-sport. So people tortured themselves in a number of arenas outside of rock climbing itself. As a result people got more buffed out. Today, climbers train doing exercises that are more rock-climbing specific, like campusing, that make for better climbing athletes. But you're right, you don't get that old muscle beach Venice feeling in C4 as much as you used to do BITD when people seemed more inclined to use their fists in anger.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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There's a ton of super strong climbers these days but the really strong guys in the eighties look a little more muscular, were some of them doping?
1) mullets make you look more buffed.
2) doping isn't always to make you muscular
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bjj
climber
beyond the sun
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I am 44 and I take both "steroids" (technically it is "TRT" but they are one in the same) to raise my low testosterone levels from 290 (that of a 65 yr old) to about 900 (that of a 20 yr old) as well as HGH to help stimulate connective tissue healing and whatever other effects it has.
The effects have been very positive, without being superhuman or anything.
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