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Riotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 3, 2009 - 07:57am PT
Know of any? Past or present?

A friend and I were discussing this, and I realized that I have almost never heard or read much discussion of this issue in the climbing community.

I know that if I learned that so and so's significant ascent was aided by steroids, I might be a little disappointed.

C'mon, let's hear the dirt . . .
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Apr 3, 2009 - 09:32am PT
Maybe post this on Sports Illustrated or ESPN, you might get some traffic on it. I know of a lot of climbers on SED's(sports enhancement drugs)steroids are so passe. Back in the 70's and 80's "some" climbers did various drugs to get up rocks, does this count? I also know a lot of climbers on hemroids!
Peace
5am PST, you must be on roids, should be snoozin. Maybe look up some old data in Rock and Ice, I think I have some old copies that discussed steriods and such. We gonna delete all first ascents if you find out someone took em
Gene

climber
Apr 3, 2009 - 09:34am PT
Guilty. I once had a cortisone shot in my shoulder.
Anastasia

climber
Not here
Apr 3, 2009 - 10:14am PT
Most of us are hyperactive. We need to calm down! Reason why most of us are stoners. If you mix steroids with climbers they will turn into modern equipped Viking Raiders.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
Sprocketville
Apr 3, 2009 - 11:33am PT
State vs Stoner...State vs Stoner...Are you Stoner?
Ahhhh, yyaaaahhhhh, man.
Like I only did acid, like ... ten times man.
I mean once, man.

I get my blood changed before each season.
Keeps me from getting cold.
More iron. It's all about the iron.

Hans and the Hubers are JUICED man!
Look at the shrunken nut sacks.
Face like a jellyfish.
Barry Bonds face.
RDB

Trad climber
Iss WA
Apr 3, 2009 - 11:38am PT
Knew one years ago but he was off the juice by the time he started climbing and no one thought much about it. Pretty obvious looking back now though.
Russ Walling

Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
Apr 3, 2009 - 11:56am PT

Oh yeah... there have been juicers, but I'm not going to go all Canseco on them.

Of course that was before steroids were illegal in climbing, and before Major League Climbing started checking for steroids.
Reilly

Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
Apr 3, 2009 - 12:53pm PT
It is abundantly clear Norman Clyde was juicing.
Pretty sure about John Salathe too, carrots if I'm not mistaken.

Edit:
Oh yeah, Whillans too.
Riotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2009 - 01:53pm PT
I think Russ' response is the most revealing.































I knew it! Climbing's dirty little secret . . .
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Apr 3, 2009 - 03:13pm PT
Uh Russ juiced! All the signs and symptoms....what's that gonadotrophy thingamajig and gynomastoidism junk. Fess up Fish, isn't that when you went into the hard sport route era of yers?
Peace

Riotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2009 - 04:34pm PT
Maybe we need to institute the FNSFA (First Non-steroidal Free Ascent) for certain climbs . . . ?
quartziteflight

climber
Who knows?
Apr 3, 2009 - 04:50pm PT
Well.


If your over 45 most men can get test perscibed by a doctor. I think there are some anti-aging clincs that will get older men scripts for hgh also.



I've read about some of the sh#t juicing powerlifters and BBers take its pretty gross. HGH, and insulin, test..and a bunch of other sh#t. Still who cares? It's their body..


Its pretty commom for people in society to deem anyone who's musclar as juicing....which is just silly. Still I don't want to put that crap in my body. I prefer beer..


I know stalone admited to hgh use. Did that help him crank harder in cliffhanger..bwahh ha ha ha!
Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
Apr 3, 2009 - 04:52pm PT
Not me, I hear it shrinks your nutz...I need all those BIG PIECES when I climb!
Mr_T

Trad climber
The 7th Pin Scar on Serentiy Crack
Apr 3, 2009 - 05:03pm PT
I sure hope no climbers are trying the juice. This page has a pretty interesting somewhat medical approach to how it's done:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsteroids.htm

If you read through the bit on say Testosterone Suspension or Equipoise you'll realize how insanely dangerous these things are. Injecting yourself with horse growth hormones - what could possibly go wrong?
Brock

Trad climber
RENO, NV
Apr 3, 2009 - 11:25pm PT
I think many people on steroids have blown tendons/ligaments...Don't know the research on it.

I think caffeine has a better/cleaner effect...

Look at Tom Herbert M.D.'s past write up on enhancing products for climbers (not sure if it was Climbing or Rock & Ice).


G_Gnome

Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
Apr 4, 2009 - 01:07am PT
Yeah, yeah, I use them. So what.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Apr 4, 2009 - 01:34am PT
you were just worried russ was gonna go all Canseco on you and out you. good job fessin' up
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Apr 4, 2009 - 01:55am PT
I knew a guy in Colorado who used them specifically to be a better climber. He put up a few noteworthy ascents in Eldorado, but was never one of the top climbers in the area though using steroids was his attempt to gain that status.

Bruce
Larry

Trad climber
Bisbee
Apr 4, 2009 - 10:15am PT
Riotch > Maybe we need to institute the FNSFA (First Non-steroidal Free Ascent) for certain climbs . . . ?

Why do you think so many routes have asterisks by the name in the book?
Riotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2009 - 10:17am PT
OH! So, that's what those mean!
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