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sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Apr 29, 2014 - 12:27am PT
This thread is a book about a book that is not finished or was never begun in the first place - the "author" was to be a first-timer working with someone close to one of the players in the drama, although after many years nothing is as it seemed to be or was supposed to be. Statutes of limitations probably would absolve all concerned of responsibility, but nothing is really clear. The author has chosen not to release any samples of the work in progress, if it is indeed in progress, despite many requests. For a few years it seemed as if a book might be forthcoming from the project - lately it seems more likely that the author is having more difficulties finishing his manuscript than he or we originally had thought was likely. Lately the project has inevitably digressed into accusations and cross-accusations about motives and intent. It seems as if nothing will come from this failed effort except this depressing thread, a sad monument to an illustrious event that happened long ago in an idyllic locale.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 29, 2014 - 12:35am PT
Nutter, the sub-plot is Sidmo's unrequited luv for Licky - a timeless topic if reduced to a rather hackneyed version here.
Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Apr 29, 2014 - 02:41am PT
Sidmo is literally unable to respond in less than 100 words to any stimulus
sempervirens

climber
Apr 29, 2014 - 10:37am PT
Book or no book, true stories or not, one thing is proven: sidmo is a dickhead.
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2014 - 11:54pm PT
I can see sidmo in his living room putting that text to rap.

Tell me again sidmo...where is it written that I owe you, samples of the book? You have provided nothing toward the advancement of the book, information about the event, names of players that you know were there, nothing. You rag on me behind the cloak of the internet so you'll not have to be held accountable for your slander and libel. Ya know sidmo, I have two goals now, one is to get to the bottom of what caused the crash and to meet you. I'll get both of them shortly
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 30, 2014 - 10:46am PT
YMMV

The ToothPicks (Los Palillos) had a house less than one mile from me. The trial lasted more than one year and verdicts were issued in 2014.

Laura McNeal produced her massive tome (61 pages) and it is available on Amazon (sid, you can get it for $2.99 to tide your reading interests over until Ric finishes up in 2020).

Rojas and Estrada are among 18 defendants — both U.S. and Mexican citizens — indicted in connection with Los Palillos since 2009. Prosecutors said the drug-trafficking crew was responsible for nine killings and kidnappings for ransom in San Diego County between 2004 and 2007
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Apr 30, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
So slid

I see that you must have had someone else write your last post for you. Someone else writing and editing was it your professor helping you?

By the way did you ever get the chance to look over that film? Did you look deeper and followed the trails behind the real story? The best part or worst considering how you look at it is how they have in the past; currently and in the future control your daily life. Not by reading your mind but by listening and looking.

You're guilty and it has noting to do with having or distributing any drugs. "I don't care what you think" Better rethink that.

zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 30, 2014 - 01:16pm PT
a sad monument to an illustrious event that happened long ago in an idyllic locale.

Tell us you're just spoofing us sid, some of us are not as sharp as you.

Are you working on Lodestar 1977 Illustrated or is this just another exapmple of your inabiltiy to comprehend the English language?


zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 30, 2014 - 01:17pm PT

Whoa. Can you tell me more about the Lodestar drug plane?
In the 70s, the rock climbing Dirtbags realized that, thanks to some new gear innovations, they could climb walls that had never been climbed before. The main Dirtbag ethic is time over money, so none of them wanted to waste their life working. Then some money fell out of the sky.

In the winter of 1977, a drug plane went down in a lake just outside of the Yosemite Valley. A Park Service Ranger mentioned it to one of the Dirtbags in Camp 4. It was still snowy in the high country, so recovering the plane was difficult for the Feds. They decided to hold off on an extensive recovery until springtime. The plane was sitting at the bottom of an iced-over lake, packed with pot.

The Dirtbags camped outside all year. I’m sure they were used to the snow.
Exactly. And they were all rugged outdoorspeople. So a group of Dirtbags hitchhiked into Fresno to rent SCUBA gear. They hiked up to the lake, smashed a hole in the ice, and brought up hundreds of pounds of marijuana.

The Dirtbags hauled duffle bags full of weed back to Camp 4 and dried it out around fires. The money they made by selling it bought them the best climbing and camping gear. The money changed the Dirtbags’ lifestyle a bit, but it allowed them to live in Yosemite almost indefinitely.

How much money did the Dirtbags end up with?
Nobody knew how much money anyone made on the Lodestar crash. And since I was born the year the score was recovered, I didn’t want to ask the people I climbed with. But I know a few world-famous climbers who supposedly lived for more than a decade off that money. Duffle bags full of good weed are worth big, big money.

Quote is from "Peter Hoffmeister [who] Lived with Bears in Yosemite and Survived to Write a Book About It"
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 30, 2014 - 01:50pm PT

Probably a more interesting story.

RICHARD HENRY "DICK" RANALDI

http://www.dmairfield.com/people/ranaldi_di/


Steve Hickman

climber
Norwood, CO
Apr 30, 2014 - 02:12pm PT
Merced Red. I haven't climbed for years and was never really good at (first accents were 58 / A1). I don't live in Norwood anymore because I got too old to fix fences. Now in Green Valley, AZ with lots of other retirees but we have fun and travel a lot. Any bids on an "- - -I got mine- - - " T-shirt?
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Apr 30, 2014 - 02:46pm PT
Z ... a much more interesting story indeed.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Apr 30, 2014 - 06:04pm PT
Let's see if I can respond to the flurry of haters in kind and in order.

Luv for licky? Really Reilly? Not exactly what I had in mind, despite your opinion - another Freudian slipup from another laptop psychiatrist

Why Brawnino, should I use brevity to communicate? I'm not a poet or songwriter, I was taught to write, and to write one must use words - if ya don't wanna read it move on to the next post . . .and read another attack on me instead of the poser Licky.

A dickhead, Sequoia Simpleton? Well I have one but you'll never see it - no, I'm what's more commonly referred to as an acehole and/or a jerk, as if I care what you morons think - Licky does though, suck up to him some more why don't you?

Lick if you see me rapping better lay off the acid, dude - yer hallucinating again. And lick, you'll never meet me sooner or later, unless you do a real stalker job - if I see a creep hiding behind binoculars I'll know it's you - and I thought I told you, you offer no, make that NO compelling reason to tell you anything about anything - in your perfect world you ask people for details about illegal activity and the information just comes pouring in - well good luck to you and all who trust you - years ago I began to think you have ulterior motives and nothing you've said since leads me to believe otherwise. Sorry but you are not convincing. You seem like a narc.

So I have a ghostwriter now eh, Shanghole? As if anyone would put up with me that long, I'm an acehole, remember? A ghostwriter is what Licky needs, I've never been at a loss for words.

What is it about the English lingo I don't get ZBRO? How to post stupid pictures like you? Yeah, I guess I missed that class in community college - too busy at university actually writing I suppose.

hope I didn't leave any of you bozos out - its all I can do to keep up with your moronic insults, but I try my best
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2014 - 01:58am PT
Every time you write sidmo, you show an other side of you. It is recorded. I'll have my coffee with you sooner or later.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
May 5, 2014 - 08:39pm PT
Licky, are you a caff-fiend? Either we belly up to a bar and do shots or it's no intro, bro. I want to meet you when your speech is properly slurred. An other side of me? Either your perception is schizophrenic or I'm multi-faceted. Or you're just the dumbass I have suspected you were for so many years.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
May 5, 2014 - 09:28pm PT

Sid and Rick's relationship has lasted longer than many marriages.

Haha

More amicable than some, though.

I think they like each other.

It has been like 11 years. I don't see anything on Amazon.
Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
May 5, 2014 - 09:40pm PT
Sidmo is literally unable to respond in less than 100 words to any stimulus

Let's see if I can respond to the flurry of haters in kind and in order.

Luv for licky? Really Reilly? Not exactly what I had in mind, despite your opinion - another Freudian slipup from another laptop psychiatrist

Why Brawnino, should I use brevity to communicate? I'm not a poet or songwriter, I was taught to write, and to write one must use words - if ya don't wanna read it move on to the next post . . .and read another attack on me instead of the poser Licky.

A dickhead, Sequoia Simpleton? Well I have one but you'll never see it - no, I'm what's more commonly referred to as an acehole and/or a jerk, as if I care what you morons think - Licky does though, suck up to him some more why don't you?

Lick if you see me rapping better lay off the acid, dude - yer hallucinating again. And lick, you'll never meet me sooner or later, unless you do a real stalker job - if I see a creep hiding behind binoculars I'll know it's you - and I thought I told you, you offer no, make that NO compelling reason to tell you anything about anything - in your perfect world you ask people for details about illegal activity and the information just comes pouring in - well good luck to you and all who trust you - years ago I began to think you have ulterior motives and nothing you've said since leads me to believe otherwise. Sorry but you are not convincing. You seem like a narc.

So I have a ghostwriter now eh, Shanghole? As if anyone would put up with me that long, I'm an acehole, remember? A ghostwriter is what Licky needs, I've never been at a loss for words.

What is it about the English lingo I don't get ZBRO? How to post stupid pictures like you? Yeah, I guess I missed that class in community college - too busy at university actually writing I suppose.

hope I didn't leave any of you bozos out - its all I can do to keep up with your moronic insults, but I try my best

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zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
May 5, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
Are you claiming to be a writer scudmo?

Please provide us with a list of your published work. If you have none, then please provide samples of your unpublished works, specifically those not addressing Ric or the aiplane crash in Yosemite.

Submitting applications to the Publisher's Clearing House contest is not really writing I'll observe in advance.




Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
May 5, 2014 - 10:29pm PT
I was taught to write

Hope you kept the receipt
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
May 5, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
hope I didn't leave any of you bozos out - its all I can do to keep up with your moronic insults, but I try my best

Sure was a lot of 'em, eh?
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