1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite


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Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 4, 2014 - 01:30am PT
Look ratlab, I've been posting in an empty space - not my fault if licky's cupboard ran dry - you can skip reading any post you choose so if I bother you you're just bothering yourself - there's no way I ruined a threadbare thread - there's a shelflife for everything and this project is smelling like rotten fish - blame me if you're stupid enough to think I control anything - I just flame at licky because, as I've said before, I think he might be masquerading, misstating his intentions, blowing smoke in general for some weird reason - what he is NOT doing is seriously writing a book

Sport climber
Mar 4, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
After a couple of words that's usually what I do when I see sidmo's post. I choose not to read it. I dont know why I keep giving him the benefit of even those few words.
Some people just want to squander what little time they have on this beautiful planet, arguing, and complaining.


Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 4, 2014 - 09:25pm PT
RIGHT ON CURVY - see how easy it is for the haters to just chill and stop hating? just ignore what bugs you - why is it that all you other morons have difficulties editing your reading content? if you don't like what you read then don't read it, seems simple enough to me - we will never get the chance to read or not read licky's book however, because he aint never gonna publish - you see, he'd have to actually write the book to publish the book, and he'd actually have to publish the book for us to read it (or not) and we all know how that's (not) going

does poser rhyme with loser?

Big Wall climber
Mar 4, 2014 - 11:30pm PT
No, but strangely enough Sidmo rhymes with freak show

Trad climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 01:24am PT
Niagra falls is frozen.

The last time that happened was when this thread started...sometime in the last ice age.

Trad climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 01:34am PT
That was back when it was interesting

Mountain climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2014 - 03:06am PT
Is it too lame to suggest that meme and sidmo might be one in the same? Naw...I take short steps, I miss a lot. sidmo will probably find his way into the book, but proably not in the way he'd like. I love research sidmo. You open up a ton of doors for me. I love you man!

Trad climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 11:24am PT
Licky, have you considered taking on a partner to do the bulk of the writing? It's a pretty interesting story. I'm sure there are some writers out there who would be interested in a partnership. You know the saying, half of something...

Trad climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 03:37pm PT
Probably old news to followers of this thread, but just in case it is news: a fictional account of the crash and aftermath is: High Country by Nevada Barr way back in 2005. It's a very poor read on many fronts but might be interesting for some to see how the event takes on a life of its own in spite of a simpestic protagonist and convoluted far fetched plot.

Tom Higgins
Longago (but not there then)

Social climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 09:25pm PT
I see you are listening to your critics on how to write, now try to incorporate paragraphs Sidmo and try to make sense when you do. Right/wright?

Better yet still have a ways to go take more classes

Credit: lostinshanghai

Licky: Thought the same Sidmo- MeMe ? would not surprise me.

Mountain climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2014 - 11:03pm PT
AT...I think you have some good stories...wanna talk?

Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 5, 2014 - 11:21pm PT
3,210 DAYS AND COUNTING . . . drip, drip, drip

NINE PHUCKIN YEARS LATER . . . drip, drip, drip

So Lick, you used to think I was Chainsaw, now you think I'm Meme? I'm wondering who the blank you are, WBraun? (coincidentally he was your first poster, were you salting the gold mine? You're like those guys who would smoke a doobie of Gold Lumbo with someone and then sell them plane weed, the old bait-and-switch ripoff)
Lick I never threatened you - but I guess you think you can scare me into submission - you're the one who needs to submit though, a manuscript, that is - go ahead Lick, bring it on if you want to distract yourself even more and ruin the book - I'll stop namecalling, etc. and just say that you have really taken an awfully long time on this project - others have voiced the same opinion, flame on them for a change - our/my/their gripe with you is simple: YOU WRITE TOO DAMN SLOW - that is, if you're writing at all - you've offered no proof that you are penning anything, and you attack your most vocal critics with a gusto that borders on paranoia - hey, I'd be ashamed too, if I strung a bunch of good old rockclimbers along for NINE PHUCKIN YEARS - NINE PHUCKIN YEARS!!!!

Admit it lick - you're licked by the plane - ever wish you'd just minded your own business? Read MOBY DICK sometime - it's perhaps the greatest novel ever written and it's really all about you, dood - this book is likely to drown you like . . . well, I won't ruin the story for you - maybe if literature is as challenging for you as writing you could rent the movie, but you certainly remind me of the Cap'n

That ought to sell well in the Castro

Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 6, 2014 - 08:47am PT
DAY 3211


Sport climber
Mar 6, 2014 - 11:28am PT

Keep your book writing mojo going!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Mar 6, 2014 - 08:50pm PT
Who you trying to fool Squishy (Feb 27), that definitely is not an aeroplane (I have confirmed this with Reilly who knows all about this kinda stuff). However, it is the only post in the last few weeks, other my own that I have bothered to read.

What follows is an aeroplane and it shows that it is possible to crash land without spilling your load. Is there a chapter in the book on death wish?




Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 7, 2014 - 06:56am PT
DAY 3212


Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 8, 2014 - 08:07am PT
DAY 3213


Social climber
Mar 8, 2014 - 04:00pm PT
SID S [Special] I [Investigation] D [Department] mo [why the first interest in looking at Licky drafts]

SID [Sensory Integration Disorder] mo

SID [Sensory Integration Dysfunction] mo

SID [Sanitary Improvement District] mo: Toilets your forte [wrote books on the subject]

SID [Sadistic, Dangerous] mo

SID [Spectral Information Divergence] mo

SID [Slew Induced Distortion] mo

SID [Security Investigation Division] mo: Anything to with MCA?

SID [Scientific Investigation Division (law enforcement; various locations] mo: FBI, MCA, Park Service?

SID [Social, Emotional, and Dysfunction] mo

“sid”, aliased to “unstable”

* difficulty getting along with peers
* prefers playing by self rather than with people
* does not interact reciprocally with peers or adults; hard to have a "meaningful" two-way conversation

* self-abusive or abusive to others
* have a hard time interpreting needs, or emotions
* does not seek out connections with familiar people


* difficulty accepting changes in routine (to the point of tantrums)
* gets easily frustrated
* often impulsive
* functions best individually
* variable and quickly changing moods; prone to outbursts and tantrums
* prefers away from groups, or just be an observer
* avoids eye contact
* difficulty appropriately making needs known
* severe/several mood swings throughout the day (angry to happy in short periods of time, perhaps without visible cause)

* unpredictable state of arousal or inability to control arousal level (hyper to lethargic, quickly, vacillating between the two; over stimulated to under stimulated, within hours or days, depending on activity and setting, etc.)


Careless mistakes/lack of attention to details
Lack of sustained attention
Poor listener
Failure to follow through on tasks
Poor organization
Avoiding tasks requiring sustained mental effort
Easily distracted

Mental (psychiatric) problems including:

◾new or worse behavior and thought problems
◾new or worse bipolar illness
◾“zoning out” without realizing it, even in the middle of a conversation
◾ extreme distractibility; wandering attention makes it hard to stay on track
◾ difficulty paying attention or focusing, such as when reading or listening to others
◾ struggling to complete tasks, even ones that seem simple
◾ tendency to overlook details, leading to errors or incomplete work
◾ poor listening skills; hard time remembering conversations and following directions
◾sense of underachievement
◾ doesn’t deal well with frustration
◾ easily flustered and stressed out
◾ irritability or mood swings
◾ trouble staying motivated
◾ hypersensitivity to criticism
◾ short, often explosive, temper
◾ low self-esteem and sense of insecurity
◾ feelings of inner restlessness, agitation
◾ tendency to take risks
◾ getting bored easily
◾ racing thoughts
◾ craving for excitement
◾ talking excessively
◾ doing a million things at once
◾ does not know the difference between a man and a woman on ST posts. Lacks skills

The wide-reaching effects of ADD/ADHD can lead to embarrassment, frustration, hopelessness, disappointment, and loss of confidence. You may feel like you’ll never be able to get your life under control. blame. The difficulties you’ve had are symptoms of attention deficit disorder—not the result of personal weakness or a character flaw. *No you have a character flaw/personal weakness not to mention more.]

People with ADHD more often have difficulties with social skills, such as social interaction and forming and maintaining friendships. About half of adolescents with ADHD experience social rejection by their peers compared to 10–15% of non-ADHD adolescents. People with ADHD have attention deficits which cause difficulty processing verbal and nonverbal language which can negatively affect social interaction. They also may drift off during conversations, and miss social cues.

Difficulties managing anger are more common in adolescents with ADHD[28] as are poor handwriting and delays in speech, language and motor development. Although it causes significant impairment, particularly in modern society.

Signs and symptoms

Inattention, hyperactivity (restlessness in adults), disruptive behavior, and impulsivity are common in ADHD.[22][23] Academic difficulties are frequent as are problems with relationships.[22] The symptoms can be difficult to define as it is hard to draw a line at where normal levels of inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity end and significant levels requiring interventions begin.[24]:p.26

Based on the presenting symptom ADHD can be divided into three subtypes—predominantly inattentive, predominantly hyperactive-impulsive, or combined if criteria for both types are met.[24]:p.4

An individual with inattentive concentration may have some or all of the following symptoms:[26]

Be easily distracted, miss details, forget things, and frequently switch from one activity to another

Have difficulty maintaining focus on one task

Become bored with a task after only a few minutes, unless doing something enjoyable

Have difficulty focusing attention on organizing and completing a task or learning something new

Not seem to listen when spoken to

Daydream, become easily confused, and move slowly

Have difficulty processing information as quickly and accurately as others
Struggle to follow instructions

An individual with hyperactivity may have some or all of the following symptoms:[26]

Fidget and squirm in their seats

Talk nonstop

Have difficulty doing quiet tasks or activities

An individual with impulsivity may have some or all of the following symptoms:[26]

Be very impatient

Blurt out inappropriate comments, show their emotions without restraint, and act without regard for consequences

Have difficulty waiting for things they want

People with ADHD more often have difficulties with social skills, such as social interaction and forming and maintaining friendships. About half of adolescents with ADHD experience social rejection by their peers compared to 10–15% of non-ADHD adolescents.

People with ADHD have attention deficits which cause difficulty processing verbal and nonverbal language which can negatively affect social interaction. They also may drift off during conversations, and miss social cues.[27]

Associated disorders

Learning disabilities can include developmental speech and language disorders and academic skills disorders.[33] ADHD, however, is not considered a learning disability but it can still significantly impact academic performance.[33]

Tourette syndrome has been found to occur more commonly in the ADHD population.[34]

Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) and conduct disorder (CD), which occur with ADHD in about 50% and 20% of cases respectively.[35] They are characterized by antisocial behaviors such as stubbornness, aggression, frequent temper tantrums, deceitfulness, lying, and stealing.[Stealing Licky manuscript] [36]

About half of those with hyperactivity and ODD or CD develop antisocial personality disorder in adulthood.[37] Brain imaging supports that conduct disorder and ADHD are separate conditions.[38]

Primary disorder of vigilance, which is characterized by poor attention and concentration, as well as difficulties staying awake.

Mood disorders (especially bipolar disorder and major depressive disorder. Adults with ADHD sometimes also have bipolar disorder, which requires careful assessment to accurately diagnose and treat both conditions.[40]

Anxiety disorders have been found to occur more commonly in the ADHD population

There is an association with persistent language delay,[50] and developmental coordination disorder (DCD), with about half of people with DCD having ADHD.[51] The language delay in people with ADHD can include problems with auditory processing disorders such as short-term auditory memory weakness, difficulty following instructions, slow speed of processing written and spoken language, difficulties listening in distracting environments e.g. the classroom, and weakness in reading comprehension.[52]


The cause of most cases of ADHD is unknown; however, it is believed to involve interactions between genetic and environmental factors.[53][54] Certain cases are related to previous infection of or trauma to the brain.[53] Maybe too much pot Sidmo………………………

Big Wall climber
Mar 8, 2014 - 05:49pm PT

Credit: Braunini

Cue page long response in which Sidmo gets defensive about stuff that happened in the 60s

Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:05am PT
So much fun here - it's like yanking tails in the monkey cage the way you stupid apes respond to outside stimuli - will you ever address anything on point? All you morons offer are more ridiculous counterposts and off-context imagery that make no sense but to feed your need to defend your hero licky . . . and for what purpose? So you can cement your vaunted status as top toadies to a disgraced phony - what's in it for you groupies anyway? Do you think Licky will celebrate his benefactors in his moment of glory and not hog the spotlight for himself? I can see it now: "Yes Oprah, I could never have written my worstseller without the undying support of so many of my friends I never met in the rockjock community like Braunini and Lostinshanghai - and my alter ego WBraun, who was with me since the beginning to such a degree that we literally became joined at the hip . . . except that we were so far from being hip - they had my back when I encountered unwarranted criticism from nutcases like Sidmo (And his aliases Chainsaw and Meme) who questioned my selfless motives when my project foundered. I disappeared from my own thread from time to time due to inaction on the writing front and the cynics pounced upon me, well, cynic anyway, but my legions of loyal followers never gave up - they inspired me and helped to keep my dream alive even when my sponsors at the DEA grew impatient with my glacially slow pace and lack of progression."
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