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JEleazarian
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Fresno CA
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"What complete bullsh#t. I don't think anyone here has said that"
Dirtbag,
Sorry to be Clintonesque, but it depends on your definition of "here." In a different thread on ST I'd related how my 96-year-old mother, an avowed life-long leftist, was initially a strong supporter of Obama, but how she got disillusioned as she heard more and more of his empty promises, to the point where he sounds like a charlatan to her now. That comment was met with an immediate allegation of racism.
I agree that no Obama supporter said precisely what I said on this thread; no one here seriously argues that the world is without racism, either. I stand by my comments.
John
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bookworm
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Falls Church, VA
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"I'm sure he's the only one who feels this way. After all, racism ended long ago."
i never claimed racism has ended...in fact, i'm absolutely certain it will NEVER end...not in america or everywhere else in the world...but racism is far less an issue here than in any other place in the world...and this election will not be decided because of race...yes, many people will vote for obama because of race, but i believe most will vote for him because of hope (it can't be for anything else)
ummm...since when should candidates be expected to vet MODERATORS? maybe, mccain should have asked if ifill was writing a pro-obama book...or maybe, despite her many public expressions of support for obama, mccain counted on her professionalism in good faith...in fact, the MODERATOR is obliged by professional ethics to disclose any potential conflict of interest...we'll see if ifill begins the debate with such a disclosure
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jstan
climber
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Ultimately it comes down to a voter's priorities.
Imagine you have one candidate you feel is not up to the job but is of the "right" race. And a very capable candidate who is of the "wrong" race.
You, the voter, have to choose whether good government or race is the higher priority.
When the cost of poor government has clearly become extremely high, voters' choices might be expected to be based less upon race.
If a voter allows race to be an issue then, really, they will get exactly what they deserve.
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dirtbag
climber
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"ummm...since when should candidates be expected to vet MODERATORS? maybe, mccain should have asked if ifill was writing a pro-obama book...or maybe, despite her many public expressions of support for obama, mccain counted on her professionalism in good faith...in fact, the MODERATOR is obliged by professional ethics to disclose any potential conflict of interest...we'll see if ifill begins the debate with such a disclosure "
So you know she didn't disclose it? It's hardly a big secret she's writing a book. Looks like you're up on all the right wing pre-debate whining points of the day
She'll be getting the same questions as Biden. Just like that big bad vicious liberal Couric, she'll ask Palin (and Biden) a question, and Palin will respond "Flarbaquots uhigly Bailout vlorpu dolirit Healthcare gultobaft Taxes."
I hope for her sake that her pre-Debate fluffers are instructing her that she should not do what she did in the Couric interview and start speaking in tongues.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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How many effigies of Bush have been hung, burned, etc.?
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dirtbag
climber
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How many have been hung because he is white?
Lynchings have been a traditional way to terrorize black people. Thus, the noose is a powerful racist symbol. Don't take my word for it, look it up and learn some history.
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jstan
climber
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C'mon Coz. On ST you can say right out what you think.
You don't need to hold back.
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