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Jim Clipper
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Nov 16, 2018 - 02:18pm PT
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My last post here. To him? Not to cut another down...
It seems that some climbers talk about a spirituality. Some may have been rewarded for it too. I had a teacher in college. She said, in the 60's, maybe when they were organizing, her culture was sometimes co-opted by others. They didn't really appreciate it.
Relative to other sports, it seems that sustaining yourself simply by climbing is more difficult, even if you're near the top of the game. It would be nice to see resources distributed with some perspective. I'd like to see Lonnie called ambassador, or something similar.
He was given a name, and when it comes down to it, I bet that is enough. Moreover, he seems to have worked, and lived up to it. Still, we all have to eat.
Titles can come with responsibilities too. He seems to have met some of his. Furthermore, I'm sure he has a unique perspective about the places we enjoy climbing. Certainly, a unique history that he shares with those closest to him, those from the same place. If he's pushing climbing, he seems grounded.
My 2 cents. Don't want to speak for anyone. Finally, a friend was recently posting on Facebook about going on a 4 day vision quest/fast. Someone typed, day one, tell them you realized it sucks to be hungry, go to the grocery store, get some things together, and find someone people who need a meal. Every place is different, but some are still more hungry than others.
I hope to not co-opt anything. Apologies if I've gone places, important to others, where I wasn't necessarily welcomed. If invited to hunt, maybe at best, hold the line, knowing enough to stay out of the way, while enjoying being there? If lucky, uncles and aunties first?, or especially to those deserving or in need. The days are growing shorter, I have to go. Really, congratulations. Hope the good comes back to you, the goods come back to you.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 16, 2018 - 04:10pm PT
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the climb's location is a very special place in the Valley
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Nov 16, 2018 - 07:53pm PT
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I think I prognosticated on this 'style' coming back elsewhere, but I'll say it again. The days of the hard pink points masquerading as real red points are over.
Either you're on the cutting edge and making longer 100 meter routes at >9a+, or you're doing things like this. Coming back to style. Coming back to showing how it is done on hard stuff going ground up placing gear as you go. Onsight Magic Line with no preplaced gear? How about that as the next thing out there?
Me, on the other hand, I'm moving to pre-placed gear, pulling on draws, and general trickery!
PS - Black Diamond still hasn't called me to sponsor me. #callme
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Mark Rodell
Trad climber
Bangkok
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Nov 17, 2018 - 05:44am PT
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Fantastic.
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