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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Nov 18, 2018 - 08:48am PT
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The Democrats just won a massive wave election. The depth and breadth of that wave has become more clear, day by day, but Democrats picked up more House seats than in any election since 1974, just a few months after Richard Nixon resigned the presidency in disgrace.
Which may be a clue and a portent. As in this can get even worse for the Republicans.
Democrats also flipped seven governorships, at least eight state legislative chambers and over three hundred state legislative seats, and now hold a majority of state attorneys general. Their overall national popular vote margin for the House rivals that of the largest Republican waves, with only unethical, undemocratic gerrymandering preventing their seat gain from being even larger. Even more ominously for Republicans, the usual national political battleground that is the suburbs swung hard for Democrats, and it's hard to see it swinging back even toward the middle anytime soon.
Only an ignorant racist derp would call that at a "meh"
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Nov 18, 2018 - 08:54am PT
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I am curious why guns are the issue the left makes them out to be... Parkland, Sante Fe High School, Thousand Oaks, Umpqua, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh come to mind. But each year those make up a small slice of gun related deaths, which including suicides tops 30k. The fact that many of the deaths are children plays a large role. And it's not just the left. the right makes a huge deal about it too. preventing any sort of regulation is a central pillar of their platform.
As long as we're talking media fear mongering frenzy, how's the brown invasion at our border going?? the caravan's coming to gitcha!!
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wilbeer
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Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Nov 18, 2018 - 08:57am PT
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I did hear from one of “them” (lol),that in a Republic,the House is more representative of the populace than any other branch.
So ,that ,does not matter.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Nov 18, 2018 - 09:06am PT
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Blue Wave Results:
Trump - Still President
Senate - Still GOP control. Gained one seat.
Governorships - Gop leads 27 -23
State trifectas - GOP leads 22-14
State legislatures - GOP control 31 to Dems 18
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Nov 18, 2018 - 09:13am PT
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comparing senate elections in different years is difficult unless you go and look at how many seats were up for grabs in each election. everyone knew it would be hard for democrats to gain since they were defending 26 seats this election vs the republicans 9
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dirtbag
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Nov 18, 2018 - 10:00am PT
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The Democrats just won a massive wave election. The depth and breadth of that wave has become more clear, day by day, but Democrats picked up more House seats than in any election since 1974, just a few months after Richard Nixon resigned the presidency in disgrace.
You have to remember, too, that republicans were running during a strong economy. If it dips, even just a bit, they are going to be in a lot of trouble next time.
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dirtbag
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Nov 18, 2018 - 10:04am PT
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Edward: great list on the previous page.
I don’t think I could add much, but I would make strengthening voting rights, protection of various democratic institutions, and ethics as areas needing radical reform. These are topics that should generate bipartisan interest, and as the last two years have revealed, need immediate, far reaching reforms.
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dirtbag
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Nov 18, 2018 - 10:06am PT
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The kind of person who can beat Trump and unite the nation is someone who would/can avoid going toe to toe with him. In 2016, we kept looking for someone to put him in his place. It didn't and it's not gonna happen. He's too skilled a trash talker. It needs to be someone who's not gonna play his games. The best example I can think of is Barack Obama. His '08 campaign was mostly positive. Hope and Change. Not sure which prospective candidate fits the bill. Less sure if such a person would win the nomination.
100%
I hope everyone running in 2020 looked long and hard at Elizabeth Warren’s recent Pocahontas belly flop.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 18, 2018 - 10:29am PT
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Ed - Considering where the Republicans were prior to the election I would not call those numbers a success.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2018 - 10:30am PT
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Per Norton's post on Orange County going blue:
Orange Country, California, one of THE most republican counties in the US
goes 100% Democrat in every single Congressional District
One of the reasons that happened is, a lot of Christian conservatives have fled Orange County. Unfortunately for Idaho, a schist-pot of them have moved here.
Here's a link to an article on the subject in High Country News.
How right-wing emigrants conquered North Idaho https://www.hcn.org/issues/45.8/how-right-wing-emigrants-conquered-north-idaho
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Nov 18, 2018 - 10:30am PT
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AntiChrist:
Makes way more sense to regress to time when you needed a dime to call someone and someone was home so you leave a message. A time when black men were hung for looking at a white woman the wrong way. A time when nobody even knew what MPG stood for.
Of course it needs to be transformed you idiot.
I remember even before answering machines, ya just had to call back later...and party lines were great fun for kids.
Black men have been my room mates and friends my whole life...they even let me look at black women the "wrong" way.
My first car being a VW without gas gauge, with spare 1 gallon tank lever down low, I always calculated my MPG...self interest.
Sorry for the regression...back to politics
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Nov 18, 2018 - 11:15am PT
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Sorry, EdwardT, but you're way off base with most if not all of the items your list. Minimum wage laws are enslavement--and render unions irrelevant. Why the #$%& should illegals get a shot at citizenship? Ever. And the last one on your list is a non-starter. Most will never register their guns with the government. I sure won't.
There you go.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Nov 18, 2018 - 11:17am PT
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Orange Country, California, one of THE most republican counties in the US goes 100% Democrat in every single Congressional District
Gerrymandering! Bwaaaaaak!! Voter suppression!! Bwaaaaaaaaak!!!! The Russians!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!!!!!!!!
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Nov 18, 2018 - 12:25pm PT
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Sorry, EdwardT, but you're way off base with most if not all of the items your list. Minimum wage laws are enslavement--and render unions irrelevant. Why the #$%& should illegals get a shot at citizenship? Ever. And the last one on your list is a non-starter. Most will never register their guns with the government. I sure won't.
There you go.
Going down my list:
You're fine with the current level of political rhetoric? Really?
Fine with the extremely wealthy dominating campaign messaging and the candidates they support?
You're really okay with obscene gerrymandering? It's little more than exploitation by those in power. It's not representative of the people.
No minimum wage increases? It used to be kind of a safety net for the lowest earners. Now, what's the endgame?
Illegal immigration - What's your solution?
Healthcare - What's your solution? Before Obamacare a significant number of Americans royally screwed. You're okay with going back to that?
Guns - Why shouldn't we have reasonably requirements for owners of deadly weapons? Why should guns be to rare exception to just laws?
It's easy to say "you're wrong". Let's hear your solutions.
Or, back to my initial query:
What do you consider the most important issues facing Americans? What would you recommend to improve those issues?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 18, 2018 - 12:52pm PT
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The 49th district in CA was an extreme example of gerrymandering. It is mostly in North San Diego with a small part of Orange County tacked on to insure it stayed red. That piece of OC is separated by almost 20 miles of empty land called Camp Pendleton. Without redistricting it went blue, easily.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Nov 18, 2018 - 12:55pm PT
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Dear Leader has made a Tweet in which he calls Adam Schiff "Little Adam Schitt."Seriously - what the hell is wrong with this dude?
On the other hand, he'd fit right in here when the political threads get sideways.
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Jim Clipper
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Nov 18, 2018 - 01:09pm PT
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One of the reasons that happened is, a lot of Christian conservatives have fled Orange County. Unfortunately for Idaho, a schist-pot of them have moved here.
Interesting. Having been spawned there (in O.C), and having left, I never heard the news. I think the Crystal Cathedral was sold. Did Rick Warren take a fall? Folks brandishing symbols of wealth must still abound. Maybe the realities of living on a SSI check changed some views.
I thought demographic shifts, boomer kids, and migrants might have mattered.
Anyway, Fritz, sorry if you get tired of the transplants. Make a trip to Santa Cruz. When you get here we'll pull the tires off your rig, and make you some sandals, make sure you stay for a while.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Nov 18, 2018 - 03:26pm PT
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"I didn't know my AG appointee was a Mueller critic." Really? That makes him an idiot or a liar. Oh, wait...
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Nov 18, 2018 - 04:42pm PT
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Here’s an election result.
This is a picture of a celebration of house republicans after the House voted to eliminate the Affordable Care Act. Th X’d out Republicans were voted out of office by their constituents.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 18, 2018 - 05:00pm PT
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^^^^^
That's a photo of the Republicans celebrating after they denied health insurance to 23,000,000 American citizens.
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