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wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 15, 2018 - 08:04pm PT
You are right,my dad was way democrat. I was born in Pittsburgh,my dad moved us up here to the Rochester area because he found good work at Bell aerospace in Niagara Falls.
The reason he moved to Rochester was because of a few marines he knew.
Bob Warfield ,Art Lee ,lived in my neighborhood both were black,they fought with dad,I grew up with their sons .

George Burke and Tom Paine were just down the road.

These soldiers were tight ,I grew up with them.

I was at a Memorial Day parade where my dad was marching with his marine friends when someone called Art Lee a Nword ,my dad and George Burke would be in jail now for what I had witnessed.

Back to where America has always been great.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
Aug 15, 2018 - 08:24pm PT
WPWJB? (Which pornstars would Jesus bang?)
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Aug 15, 2018 - 08:56pm PT
There is an apt analogy for a Congressional bloc of Republicans who will not stand up to Trump, and who will allow him to wildly and insanely pervert the office of the President:


Men who sell their daughters as sex slaves for a pocket full of gold.


#NotAmerican

#ThisIsHappeningNow







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I have writer's OCD. I continually edit for form and style. But, not for content.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Aug 15, 2018 - 09:05pm PT
Men who would sell their daughters as sex slaves because they enjoy the extra spending power that an immediate and fat handful of cash personally provides to them.
Furthermore; pledge to thwart by conspiracy, any effort by law enforcement to bring the pedophiles to justice.

Fixed it.

monolith

climber
state of being
Aug 15, 2018 - 09:15pm PT
TDS = Trump Denial Syndrome.

Jody's reality check will come in a few months.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 15, 2018 - 09:57pm PT
TDS has gone viral and Jody is patient zero

Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Aug 15, 2018 - 10:07pm PT
these aren't speeding tickets, folks

Trump's turpitude extends widely, and even minor offenses are declared to be acceptable, because he is Trump.


Trump's first campaign manager, Corey Lowandowski, says that Trump is a "regular guy" because he got pulled over by the police while illegally talking on his cell phone while driving his Rolls-Royce from New York City to his New Jersey country club.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/us/politics/trump-regular-people-corey-lewandowski.html


Lowandowski additionally claims Trump is a "regular guy" because Trump knows that he has to pay money at a McDonald's to get a cheeseburger. Lowendowski's anecdote is that Trump paid, and received change, the same as any other regular guy.




Lowandowski is one of many ex-Trump staffers who are now being paid six figures from election campaign contributions, as from the RNC, Trump's re-election campaign, or assortedly sordid pro-Trump groups.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/everyone-signed-one-trump-is-aggressive-in-his-use-of-nondisclosure-agreements-even-in-government/2018/08/13/9d0315ba-9f15-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html




Omarosa was offered $15,000 per month to stay home and shut up.


https://www.businessinsider.com/omarosa-trump-campaign-lara-hush-money-payment-2018-8



Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Aug 15, 2018 - 10:24pm PT
Jody-See, the difference between you and me is my happiness does not depend on the government, yours apparently does.
Says the guy who lives on a Government pension.

Do you pay taxes on your part time job? Just curious.
Lennox

climber
in the land of the blind
Aug 15, 2018 - 10:24pm PT
TDS spreading like a CA wildfire.

But Jody, I thought you were hinting that the size of the fires was fake news???

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2433998&tn=1540







LOL! You guys are so amusing. See, the difference between you and me is my happiness does not depend on the government, yours apparently does.

Yeah right, I remember your posts during the Obama years—almost like you didn’t know or care who was president, right?
Lituya

Mountain climber
Aug 15, 2018 - 10:30pm PT
I remember the far left of the early 70's and tailing off into the 80's. With the excesses of Nixon, Vietnam, DDT, institutionalized racism, the discrimination of women and so on, the far right slunk into a dark corner for a period and the far left surged in mass influence. Of course the left went too far (see Jane Fonda) and payed the price. They've currently all but vanished as a generational movement.


Sit-ins, tree spiking and well organized, radical, underground organizations of those days have been replaced by environmental scientists, environmental laywers, Social Democrats and civil liberty groups. They now work for more progressive policies and laws through the current framework of our political and legal system. This is your "far left" and hardly amount to the extreme left that many describe here as "drowning out" and wanting to destroy America.

There currently exists a progressive left, an establishment center left, centrists, center right, Neocons, Corporate Globalist, Economic Libertarians, Social Libertarians, the extreme right, states rights militiaman and of course the Fascists.

Of course given the excesses of Trump, the Koch Brothers, Citizens United, the Religious Right and so on, I'm looking forward to free healthcare the next time around.
Contractor, I've rarely read a post where every single point was wrong. (Then again, you're the same guy who posted a photo of his own admittedly underpaid workers.)

In order:

1980--Ronald Reagan, anyone?

Vietnam? LBJ (and Mcnamara) were not conservatives. Certainly not Republicans.

Vanished? They basically took over the university system. The soft side, anyhow. Public--and much of the private too.

IMO, they've abandoned the legislative process in favor of bureaucratic interpretation and regulation. Even executive overreach. (When their guy is in charge.) True, the left's favored judicial activism has taken a hit since Blackmun and Douglas passed. But the 9th Circuit is keeping the Directory tradition alive!

Your political scale is horribly weighted with your personal bias. You left out Anarchists, American Communists and other extreme left. Some of them even post here!

States rights? Thomas Jefferson, anyone?



Still, the question of who, right or left, has moved farther from the center is a good one. Unfortunately, it's much like asking what time it is right now on Proxima Centauri b.





Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Aug 15, 2018 - 11:28pm PT
An avalanche of indictments is forecast for the near future . . . . . . . . . .




. . . . . . . . . . . . . a sudden serac collapse could be strategically advantageous for investigators.






Spraying one ant is effective, and gets rid of one ant.

Disturbing the nest and spraying all of them is the method of Sun Tzu.






I can "touch and feel" (It's what I do) that Mueller will hit hard and fast, with a great crescendo of indictments, all at the same time.

Mueller's earlier indictments against foreigners were warnings that were not heeded by the domestically doomed. Nobody came forth, asking for forgiveness. Now, they're gonna get what's coming to them.




I can imagine forty indictments. But, that is just my opinion.

Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Aug 16, 2018 - 04:40am PT
Lituya, Do you really have a masters in history? Your comments affirm every point I make which tells me you suffer from poor comprehension.

I think anyone who read my post would understand that I make the point that excesses of the 60’s and 70’s by the extreme left in reaction to things like Vietnam and DDT lead directly to the Reagan Revolution and our current cycle.

Don't take my word for it, do what other historians like yourself do- read the dozens and dozens of books and articles that confirm my conclusions.

Here I used the Google machine to find a couple for you.

The New Yorker
Turned Around
Why do leftists move to the right?
By George Packer
February 14, 2016 11:00 PM


The biggest story of the past fifty years in American politics has been the ascendancy of the right, and it’s a story of apostasy. At each stage of the conservative movement’s long march to power, crucial aid was provided by heretics from the left. Progressives recoiled from the New Deal and turned reactionary; ex-Communists helped to launch National Review, in the nineteen-fifties; recovering socialists founded neoconservatism in the sixties and seventies; New Left radicals turned on their former comrades and former selves in the Reagan years. Ronald Reagan, whose Presidency brought the movement to its high-water mark, was himself once a New Deal liberal. In the course of a lifetime, the prevailing political winds are westerly—they blow from left to right.


NATIONAL
FACT CHECK: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising?
June 16, 20176:21 PM ET

MARTIN KASTE
KIRK SIEGLER



Still, their numbers are tiny in relation to the mainstream political left. And, say experts, it's misleading for right-wing groups to suggest that the Antifa are more violent than right-wing extremists.

"The far left is very active in the United States, but it hasn't been particularly violent for some time," says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism.

He says the numbers between the groups don't compare.

"In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says.

You have to go back to the 1970s to find the last big cycle of far-left extremism in the U.S. Both Pitcavage and McNabb say we have been in a predominantly far-right extremist cycle since the 1990s — the abortion clinic bombings and Oklahoma City, for example. And, more recently, racially motivated attacks such as the one at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, the mass shooting at a black church in Charleston, S.C., and last month's stabbings on a commuter train in Portland.

The return of leftist terrorism?
By Peter Bergen and David Sterman, CNN
Updated 12:28 AM EDT, Thu June 15, 2017

Since the 1970s, left wing terrorism has largely declined, with the exception of some more extreme animal rights groups and eco-terrorists. But these groups have largely targeted property rather than aiming to conduct lethal attacks.

In addition, there have been occasional instances of politically motivated violence from the left, including a 2013 shooting at the conservative Family Research Council motivated in part by its opposition to same-sex marriage. Fortunately no one was killed.

The necessary comparison of incidents of far-left and far-right terrorism raises important questions about political polarization and radical violence. Since 9/11, according to data collected by New America, far-right terrorists have conducted a much higher number of lethal attacks in the United States than leftist terrorists, killing a total of 53 people

Lituya, for your own good, don't pass yourself off as an academic anymore- it's embarrassing. Just tell people your a retired Highway Patrolman, you'll get a little more slack.


Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 16, 2018 - 10:24am PT
Jody, Jody, Jody. Many of the newspapers that joined the unified voice are papers that have been blowing Trump all along. One of the symptoms of TDS is loss of objectivity
dirtbag

climber
Aug 16, 2018 - 10:28am PT
The free press is never the enemy of the people.

Trump sounds like a dictator when he says such things.

You defend him anyway.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Aug 16, 2018 - 10:31am PT
Bangin' it like Baghdad Bob, or any mouthpiece for a despot; Rudy Giuliani

beyond his already dis-bar able actions in lying to obfuscate
(jody look it up)
he is a brilliant man - or at least his pinky ring is

put the command center in the target, brilliant.

hate to say that the ruskies are in, & in control, bought it paid for & harvesting the rewards, they stole the last election, they will be sure to steal the next. . .
dirtbag

climber
Aug 16, 2018 - 10:44am PT
Nonsense.

Trump is pissed off becuase the press keeps shining a light on unethical and illegal shenanigans undertaken by him and his cronies.

He hates the fact that he cannot control them—just like a dictator. In his book, “Fake news” is a non-fawning press doing its job.


monolith

climber
state of being
Aug 16, 2018 - 10:58am PT
Deal with November, Jody.
Lituya

Mountain climber
Aug 16, 2018 - 11:01am PT
With the excesses of Nixon, Vietnam, DDT, institutionalized racism, the discrimination of women and so on, the far right slunk into a dark corner for a period and the far left surged in mass influence. Of course the left went too far (see Jane Fonda) and payed the price. They've currently all but vanished as a generational movement.

Sorry contractor, but you wrote what you wrote--and it's plain to see you don't have a grasp on late 20th century movements. (I'll grant it could simply be your writing skills that lack clarity.) You should probably stick to exploiting undocumented workers--and lawn bowling.
Lituya

Mountain climber
Aug 16, 2018 - 11:09am PT
Posted Contractor's quote in its entirety with my original reply. You have a bad habit of defending the indefensible. When the indefensible promotes your liberal worldview. I know, you like to feign rationality on occasion, but no one is being fooled.



And, speaking of indefensible:

Just tell people your a retired Highway Patrolman, you'll get a little more slack.
monolith

climber
state of being
Aug 16, 2018 - 11:15am PT
^^True TDS on display^^
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