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larryhorton
Trad climber
NM
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My aren't we a bit melodramatic.
Perhaps, Ed, but which one of us it is remains to be seen.
Regardless, melodrama wasn’t the message.
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larryhorton
Trad climber
NM
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A noteworthy and endearing characteristic of the Master is that He’s hilarious—as well as perfect.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Bottom line....if you think that luck, karma, prayer or best wishes will effect outcomes for you, you’re plain out of luck.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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I think i'll stay with differentiating apples and oranges.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Regardless, melodrama wasn’t the message.
If the message was a cooking lesson, you incorrectly characterized my methods, which are more akin to yours (or apparently yours). I'm sure this was to make a point though, regardless of the accuracy of its melodramatic delivery.
What do you know of the "Ed Cartoonies" of the world, Larry Horton?
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larryhorton
Trad climber
NM
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thankful and grateful
Those insights are honing in on truth. Hold ’em tightly, Tom. They will serve you.
I’m reminded of when I first consciously came under the wing of the Master over twenty years ago, and this litany of memories, very similar to your own, just kept flooding in until I could no longer avoid the truth that He has been with me since day one, guiding and protecting. I’ve gotten away with murder in this lifetime, and walking away unscathed had become such a ‘habit’ that I did not really notice until I was literally standing on the doorstep of the Source of my protection. It’s so obvious that I have been in this Presence in a previous lifetime, further enhancing the aura of familiarity, but until 1997, I was vain enough to think it was only ME. MEEEEEEE!!
Right, Larry.
Climbing really is a perfect foil for the journey, if we’re paying attention.
Edit:
Tom, on reflection, I’d like to qualify. When I said, hold ‘em tightly, I didn’t mean like hoarding trophies to display on the mantel. I’m sure you know that. But, if we take the time to contemplate these events, especially while they’re still live images, we discover surprising messages—not necessarily the ones technically related to what just happened. This can even happen with older memories. But when they’re fresh is the time to squeeze them for every erg of divinity they possess.
The miraculous and distinguishing thing about messages from the Master, is that we extract completely new information from them each time we revisit them—simply because, if we’re doing things right, we’re at a completely new level of consciousness each time, and can see things previously unavailable to us.
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larryhorton
Trad climber
NM
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Ed, you’re doing just great. In truth, in honesty, in love, I’ve already told you more than you’ll assimilate in this lifetime. Just keep on keepin’ on, and life will eventually reveal your next step.
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larryhorton
Trad climber
NM
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Jim, I can’t help you with your confusion—especially since you’re not even aware of it. The respect and admiration you receive from this population is satisfactory sustenance for now.
But if you were given just a glimpse, a tiny erg of what awaits you, lifetimes down the road, the facade would crumble. You’d fall down in uncontrolled weeping from the incomprehensible beauty of the thunderous truth and unbearable love that exists there. Just for you.
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larryhorton
Trad climber
NM
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Dingus, that last image you posted a few pages back... It’s brilliance still stuns me. That is the most perfectly horrifying representation of life in these lower worlds I’ve ever encountered. And the perfection that it now resides on this forum leaves one speechless. What’s more profound yet are the unmoving figures in the center. I’m pretty culturally illiterate, and I have no idea what probably-well-known film this is lifted from. And I’m pretty sure the motives of the central characters are more evil than I can imagine.
But from the higher vantage point, for one who is blinded by the divine, the central characters represent soul and the Master, lovingly focused and immovable at the center of the hurricane. I could stare at this gif for a long time (and have), and the flashes just keep rolling through, endlessly.
Thank you.
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larryhorton
Trad climber
NM
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For those of you still determined to understand ‘luck’, let me share my favorite story on the subject, although ‘luck’ is not the subject at all. Nonetheless, it’s a priceless story, true in spirit.
Ben Hogan, one of golfing’s legendary swings, had just spectacularly pulled off another mindblowing tournament win, and he’s suddenly surrounded by the jubilant crowd and journalists.
The journalists are pressing him for a story. “My gosh, Ben! That was just magnificent! How did you do it?!!” And so on.
Ben, characteristically modest and shy, shuffled a bit and said, “Aww, I dunno. Just lucky, I guess...”. And smiled in his endearing way.
So the reporters are standing there. How the hell can you make a story out of humility!
Finally, one of them says, “Well, Ben, we see you out here all the time. You’re out here every day. You’re the first one on the course, and you’re the last one to leave!”
Ben looks up and smiles at the man. “Yeah. It seems like the more I practice, the luckier I get.”
I love that story, for a number of reasons.
1. It reminds me of the master.
2. It vividly portrays sincere humility.
3. And it perfectly describes the exquisite dance between grace and effort.
May the Blessings Be
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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the blessings are
I cannot believe my luck
Mouse (loves to dance)
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WBraun
climber
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There is no such thing as luck.
It looks like that because we can't see everything that Karma encompasses.
The gross materialists think there's no such thing as Karma.
They are st00pid :-)
Karma is nothing but pure simple physics for every action there is an equal reaction and opposite reaction.
Newton.
St00pid gross materialists make clueless claims all the time .....
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Werner has a bit broader perspective than most of the other passengers
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OnsightOrGoHome
Trad climber
Fair Oaks
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We all know the roulette wheel can hit red 10 times straight (and it has....unfortunately I was doubling down on black). "Simple physics" can explain the mechanics of the result, but what explains the chance that one would start this betting scheme at the very beginning of a ten-red streak, and not a ten-black streak? Karma, the thunderous beauty beyond one's mental grasp, luck?
Maybe luck is just beating the odds. The odds vary based on your own knowledge of the true conditions and skills that will affect the result, both perceived odds and true (hidden) odds. Things can go sideways very quickly when perceived odds of success are much greater than true odds of success.
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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"johnokner" Damn fine pics! Any chance you'd list the routes?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Maybe luck is just beating the odds.
you don't "beat" anything
the odds are the odds
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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I don't get the "blessings" thing. Implies some f**ked up dude doling out misfortune as well as good fortune.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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I think it is just a way of admitting that you survived a f*#kup, you rolled the dice and won when the odds suggested that you were likely not to have
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