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justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Dec 4, 2017 - 12:55pm PT
Egads... . I don't think I've ever seen Mr. T get " irritated" .

Bummer about the accidents. Wishing both a speedy recovery.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 4, 2017 - 12:56pm PT
Has anyone here ever moved a rock from below a boulder problem you were going to do? I know that I have. As Mr_T pointed out, V2/3 is no longer cutting edge, it’s recreational. So some people moved the boulder (objective hazard) from beneath a recreational boulder. Kind of like avalanche control at a recreational ski area.
If it were a cutting edge problem with few ascents due to the presence of the boulder there could be a good argument for leaving it.
I suppose it was “cutting edge” for the people that took the time to put it back.
xCon

Social climber
909
Dec 4, 2017 - 12:58pm PT
is it to soon to call for names?
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 4, 2017 - 01:02pm PT
Never too soon. Oh, and by the way, there was sh#t on top of the boulder. Those names may be harder to come by.
xCon

Social climber
909
Dec 4, 2017 - 01:03pm PT
I keep telling em to buy the dna test kit

not like they'll only get to use it once...
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 4, 2017 - 01:16pm PT
I'm a little rusty on modern bouldering, but I thought a pad pile was the cutting edge for sanitizing landings.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 4, 2017 - 01:25pm PT
As Mr_T pointed out, V2/3 is no longer cutting edge, it’s recreational

So by that standard I suppose Bacher Yerian is "recreational" too, as the rating is only a smidge harder. So time to add the bolts, we don't want all those beginners getting injured.
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Dec 4, 2017 - 02:57pm PT
Mister T: +1
kingtut

climber
Jingus Newroutaineer
Dec 4, 2017 - 03:09pm PT
You're a climber going up on a highball and see that there's a boulder beneath it. You either 1) sack up and go for it, assuming the consequences of screwing up, or 2) decide that you'd rather not risk it and do something else. Sounds like our poor injured friend decided on the latter. His choice, not yours'.

Though we agree on much I don't agree on this one.

Should I leave loose rock on a route because "its your choice to climb it..." even though someone could get killed?

Maybe Bridwell should have left the razor edge on Wheat Thin too?

Every single one of us has trundled loose and moved movable stuff to safer spots...its not like someone is frickin' dynamiting the landing to grade and level it....if it can be moved, its fair game to move, imo. The rest is just silly for the sake of silly.

This is not a "one size fits all" to sanitize "recreational" routes...its a movable objective hazard and not blasphemy against the ghost of Bachar.

And comparing this to the BY is a false comparison. We are talking about movable objective hazard.

My opinion, FWIW.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Dec 4, 2017 - 04:26pm PT
I think the railing should be re-installed under The Thimble. It's too safe now.

BAd
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 4, 2017 - 04:59pm PT
Yikes the Thimble! That guardrail was climbing's guillotine. Quite an accomplishment for JG. The guardrail had Wunsch and me running back to the car for a top rope.
Matt's

climber
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:06pm PT
i haven't done white rastafarian-- can't you use pads to protect the landing?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:09pm PT
Moving the rock back seems like a dick move, but that doesn't change the fact the moment you leave the ground - for any reason and under any circumstance - it's entirely on you.
kingtut

climber
Jingus Newroutaineer
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:15pm PT
^^^ that is totally fair...
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:24pm PT
Stunning that someone was mean spirited enough to purposfully put a rock in the landing zone obviously with the intention to make it more dangerous.
It's Trumps amerika......
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
I wonder if they moved the rock back exactly where it was, or moved it to a more dangerous location just to be ornery.
I believe I convinced myself that the rock wasn't really in the landing zone from the top when I did it, but I'm not a local and maybe I'm mistaken.
(I'm not sure about how I feel about moving the rock in the first place, but I certainly wouldn't have made any effort to move it back once it had been moved, and it's sort of a strange character who would do that--a bit like old school bolt wars I suppose.)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:06pm PT
So if it was harder, it would be okay for people to get hurt on it?
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:24pm PT
Well at least he broke his leg doing what he loves. . . . . . .
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:34pm PT
one of my sport climbing friends broke his leg on a fishing trip to the Bahammas just so that he would not have to go ice climbing with me.....
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:44pm PT
saw the backbreaker boulder, heard it was moved.

ieither dude and possé shoulda paddmattressed the landing or moved the rock. or just not fallen.


still, the bad little suitcase of rock might do well to go f*#k off. the place gets enough traffic for me to kick a cholla in chacos with no repercussion. move the boulder, maybe put up one of them fakerocks
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