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Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Dec 4, 2017 - 04:26pm PT
I think the railing should be re-installed under The Thimble. It's too safe now.

BAd
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 4, 2017 - 04:59pm PT
Yikes the Thimble! That guardrail was climbing's guillotine. Quite an accomplishment for JG. The guardrail had Wunsch and me running back to the car for a top rope.
Matt's

climber
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:06pm PT
i haven't done white rastafarian-- can't you use pads to protect the landing?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:09pm PT
Moving the rock back seems like a dick move, but that doesn't change the fact the moment you leave the ground - for any reason and under any circumstance - it's entirely on you.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:24pm PT
Stunning that someone was mean spirited enough to purposfully put a rock in the landing zone obviously with the intention to make it more dangerous.
It's Trumps amerika......
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 4, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
I wonder if they moved the rock back exactly where it was, or moved it to a more dangerous location just to be ornery.
I believe I convinced myself that the rock wasn't really in the landing zone from the top when I did it, but I'm not a local and maybe I'm mistaken.
(I'm not sure about how I feel about moving the rock in the first place, but I certainly wouldn't have made any effort to move it back once it had been moved, and it's sort of a strange character who would do that--a bit like old school bolt wars I suppose.)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:06pm PT
So if it was harder, it would be okay for people to get hurt on it?
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:24pm PT
Well at least he broke his leg doing what he loves. . . . . . .
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:34pm PT
one of my sport climbing friends broke his leg on a fishing trip to the Bahammas just so that he would not have to go ice climbing with me.....
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:44pm PT
saw the backbreaker boulder, heard it was moved.

ieither dude and possť shoulda paddmattressed the landing or moved the rock. or just not fallen.


still, the bad little suitcase of rock might do well to go f*#k off. the place gets enough traffic for me to kick a cholla in chacos with no repercussion. move the boulder, maybe put up one of them fakerocks
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:53pm PT
I think the railing should be re-installed under The Thimble. It's too safe now


If someone had removed that nasty thing back then I would have been happy.

It's hard for me to fathom replacing the rock under WR when it had been removed for safety. That's just plain sick.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:56pm PT
I heard (seriously) that The Man, them thugdad green and gray National Parkinglot Service-ers, they replaced it.

and someone chose to dabble with fate over it.


in our country, we and they outta sue the sh#t outta people for protecting history. what I heard Smokey the Bear say was: Bachar didn't need to move the boulder, sucker.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 4, 2017 - 08:09pm PT
I haven't laughed that hard yet today ;-)
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Dec 4, 2017 - 08:26pm PT
+1 with Healyje
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Dec 4, 2017 - 09:11pm PT
For the record, I wasn't advocating for reinstalling the rock. I was simply suggesting that you boulder it as you find it. I am not saying that the same argument should apply to death flakes on popular routes, etc. I've had my knee rebuilt twice. I look at some tall problems and, as beautiful as some are, for me, having done the crutches thing and rehab more than once, they're not worth the risk. Sending my best thoughts to the injured for a speedy recovery.
gruzzy

Social climber
socal
Dec 4, 2017 - 10:10pm PT
Lucky it wasnt a head injury.
Why would some self righteous fool put a hazardous boulder back under a problem of any grade. Im sure many landings have been cleared over the years. Wow. If this is true that is sad,sad,sad
Climbnrok

Trad climber
LA
Dec 4, 2017 - 10:29pm PT
Always better with links.....

https://joshuatreebouldering.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/white-rastafarians-fall-zone-boulder/

Boulder Moved:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2541347&tn=0&mr=0

Boulder Back:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2541347&tn=85
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 4, 2017 - 11:23pm PT
I recollect Claude Cooper.
He was a clumsy climber but a clean one.
He cleverly clawed his way to the climax.
--Clandestine
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Dec 5, 2017 - 12:10am PT
In the thread a few years ago, when it was moved, it was almost unanimous that moving the brain basher was BS.

To me the real story is/
Sent Hot Rocks but blew the top out on White Rasta.
Weird.


blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 5, 2017 - 08:15am PT
I noted this post on the other thread:
Not reading all this bs, because it is beyond stupid.

I've hucked many laps on that thing. Pad, no pad. Fallen off the top once too. This is all beyond stupid because YOU WILL NOT HIT THE ROCK if you fall off!

I've taken the fall, I've seen at least 50 people take the fall. Not a single damn one of them hit the rock. Stories of broken legs/ankles, afaik, involved hitting the ground, usually padless, not hitting that little rock. 99% of the time, a fall from the business lands you immediately in front of it. Yeah, a tad close, and yeah you thought about it when up there, but no real hazard.

Stupid.

Seems crazy,but I do believe it's at least worth considering if they moved the boulder to a more dangerous location than it originally was (I also noted a post where someone who supported moving the boulder back seemed to acknowledge that it wasn't possible to determine exactly where it was originally).
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