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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Nov 9, 2017 - 08:51pm PT
You can buy range fed cockroaches that will eat that sh#t off the walls...Then they crawl outside and die...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 9, 2017 - 09:17pm PT
Anything other than TSP (Rince well) may give you problems when you try to paint over it.

Not necessarily true but tests are definitely indicated. If it is a 'tarry'
substance than it is unlikely that a water-based Kilz would react with it.
Anything solvent based would be far more likely to. Since it is possibly
organically based the amount of time that has elapsed would argue for it to
be well dessicated by now and therefore rather unlikely to be activated by
a coat or two of water-based Kilz.
ECF

Big Wall climber
Ridgway CO
Nov 9, 2017 - 10:27pm PT
Use 91% rubbing alcohol.
The cheaper 70% stuff barely works, don't bother.
Let is soak in a bit, it will dissolve and wipe up much easier.
TSP won't touch it.
Some other chemicals will, but 91% isopropyl is safest and cheapest way to go.

Kilz primer, the red writing label oil based kind, not the gold or premium, they are latex based.

There are several ways to make concentrate, sounds like they were doing the alcohol evaporate method and used too much heat and it splattered everywhere.
Amateurs...

I had a professional cleaning/ power washing service for 10 years.
Been there, done that...
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Nov 9, 2017 - 10:46pm PT
You can buy range fed cockroaches that will eat that sh#t off the walls...Then they crawl outside and die...

We have a winner!
LMAO
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2017 - 06:00am PT
I'll take that # for Vinnie Reilly. No really....

Won't the roaches get stoned and lazy and not finish the job? Seems to happen with the hired help a lot at that house.

I actually had to deal with a similar situation when I bought the house 20 years ago. The owners were very heavy cigarrette smokers. I used TSP at the time but it didn't work so well in the kitchen where it was smoke residue mixed with cooking grease. I had issues with peeling and had to go back - resand/reclean and ended up using oil based primer on the whole kitchen to get the paint to stick. Probabaly have to do the same this time. Meh.

I think I'll start with the alcohol and work my way through the list here. I'll keep y'all apraised.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Nov 10, 2017 - 06:24am PT
I spent 4 days scrubbing lard off a kitchen wall before it could be painted...glad i was hourly..I painted over the pink walls in the bedroom and overnight cockroaches had crawled up the wet paint.. I didn't know roaches could live at 8,000 feet in the winter...Maidy..I feel your pain...rj
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Nov 10, 2017 - 06:33am PT
We gotta go hammer and tongs on those a-holz. Gah.

BAd
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Nov 10, 2017 - 06:44am PT
If you have ever used Rapid Remover and have suffered bouts of paranoid schizophrenic delusions you may be entitiled to a cash settlement.... call 1 800 crk loon....

;)
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Nov 10, 2017 - 08:30am PT
Looked at a house last week, it smelt of ashtray, bad. I'd met the owner outside, the week before. He was having a yardsale and had a recliner out there. As a lark I sat in it, and it too smelled of cigarette smoke. So did the guy himself.

But the house, merde!

You trade guys, have you ever successfully got the smell out of such a place? I go to hotels that once allowed smoking and even 15 years after the last smoke, they still reek.

DMT
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 10, 2017 - 09:40pm PT
TSP followed by a good coat of oil-based KILZ if you can still buy that in CA. Use a bunch of shitty dollar store abrasive scrubs along with blue shop paper towels and throw then out as soon as they get grotty.Skinning your walls with a second layer of 1/4" or 3/8" sheetrock is also an option if you need to give up on the clean up. Lots of notched trimwork is the real problem with this option but hey, it's a rental, right?
Bong cleaning products like Liquid Grunge Off perhaps?
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2017 - 08:10am PT
@ Dingus: I did manage to get rid of cigarette smell with the TSP and liberal coats of oil primer and paint. on every surface and cabinet. I replaced every bit of flooring and carpet and took down most of the popcorn ceilings . I also replaced every light fixture , wall switch etc - anything that had a surface that could collect stinky residue.

Looks like I get to do it all over again. Fortunately- this's stuff has an odd odor but it's not nearly as discusting or strong as cigarette smell IMO . It's just harder to scrub off.

Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Nov 11, 2017 - 08:48am PT
Thanks Mr E that's what I thought. I took a pass on the property even though I liked it otherwise. Not looking for that kind of project at this stage of my life.

Cheers and good luck with the resin.

DMT
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2017 - 10:27am PT
The cigarette smell eradication project was BME- era ( before Mr. E) FYI :)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 11, 2017 - 10:42am PT
Iíve seen a coat of Kilz completely cure a nicotine-coated crib. It was the solvent based Kilz which you might have to go buy in Palmdale, so take some heat, or Vinnie. FWIW, how good does it have to be as a rental in Canoga Park? Jess sayin it only has to be gud nuff.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2017 - 03:27pm PT
Update on latest cleaning efforts in case anyone ever has the misfortune to have to deal with a similar cleaning nightmare.

Things that don't work:
Isopropyl alcohol: worthless
Denatured alcohol: worthless
Goo gone: semi-worthless- only works on light removal with a lot of scrubbing
Orange cleaner: semi-worthless- only works on light removal with a lot of scrubbing.
Edit to add: mineral spirits- lot of stink and work for limited results.

Things that kinda work:

TSP: removes the haze and film with lots of scrubbing with a scrubbie. It did remove the deep sticky pile off the Pergo floor after soaking and multiple re- scrubs.
Does NOT remove thicker splattered stuff on the plaster walls.

Pine Sol mixed about 3-4X stronger than recommended + very aggressive scrubbie was the only thing that sort of got the globs off the plaster, woodwork and appliances. .. and that's only *kinda* off... not totally removed.

Scrubbies gum up pretty rapidly and have to be thrown awayBTW . I'll let the oil primer handle the rest at this point.

I haven't tried paint thinner or any grease- based options since i didn't have a respirator with m and oily stuff seemed like an additional cleaning headache.

I still have a Saltillo tile floor covered in this crap I haven't tackled yet. The porous surface will likely need something Knar like muriatic after TSP and stripper to get the black sh#t off. I can't find a floor refinishing company that will deal with it.

Meh
F*#king potheads


Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Nov 22, 2017 - 03:37pm PT
Acetone? Ummm, I would do some reading about how to handle it safely in large quantities. Good luck.
Walleye

climber
The Hot Kiss On the End of a Wet Fist
Nov 22, 2017 - 08:32pm PT
Things that don't work:
Isopropyl alcohol: worthless
Denatured alcohol: worthless
Goo gone: semi-worthless- only works on light removal with a lot of scrubbing
Orange cleaner: semi-worthless- only works on light removal with a lot of scrubbing.
Edit to add: mineral spirits- lot of stink and work for limited results.

No wonder your moniker is justhemaid!
F

climber
away from the ground
Nov 22, 2017 - 08:51pm PT
Dr. Pepper. Some soak time if possible.
Donít ask me how I know this.
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Nov 23, 2017 - 05:54am PT
Who purchased the house for you? Mom&dad?
zardoz

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, CO
Nov 23, 2017 - 07:14am PT
Hey Skip,

Adding my vote for acetone. I used to have to clean up various paint smeared items at work, including ones that got over spray from some orange spray paint to paint shelving. Acetone worked way better than paint thinner and its smell isn't nearly as nasty. It leaves no residue, too, which is nice. Of course you either have to capture the crap in a paper towel or cloth towel you then throw out. If you wear a good solvent respirator and open the windows, that should make short work of it all.
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