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justthemaid
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Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 7, 2017 - 11:18pm PT
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So, after a 6 month battle I finally got my a-hole parasite renters evicted. They started a commercial grow on the property and were
evidently rendering/boiling/whatever(?) pot on the stove inside the house for the past year.
Every inch of every surface of everything in the house is coated in a tacky brown film and all the hardwood flooring is covered in sappy sticky goo globs.
Its my first day trying to clean it. The sh#t is insideous and incredibly difficult to remove. What the hell disolves this crap?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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strip the drywall off altogether? Not an inexpensive proposition.
That smell isn't going away for someone that doesn't smoke.
You'll think it doesn't smell after you've gotten used to it, but test it with friends that don't smoke and haven't been in the house before after doing the cleaning.
had a realtor try to tell me they couldn't smell cig smoke in one place we looked at. STANK and you could see the tar globs in the cooling unit vents. gross.
Sorry, I know that isn't very helpful.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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https://milehighcleaner.com/
Resin cleaner from Mile High is multi-surface. Purchase via m/o at $7.99/bottle...enough to do fifty bong...cheap enough to try out in some non-viewable spots.
Good luck.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2017 - 04:45am PT
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House cleaning ladies couldn't make a dent in it it with thier usual products. All I had on me was some orange cleaner and Pine Sol yesterday- insufficient weaponry for the battle at hand-
Alcohol is a good idea. It reminded me as well that PAM takes off tree sap. Just getting a list of what to have in the artillery for the next round. Thanks for any suggestions.
@ Gnome.. I'm sorry my ass got you canned :(
@ Munge- it's plaster walls in that place.- a total nightmare any time you break into it.
The entire house will get primer and repaint obviously. A couple rooms still have popcorn ceilings- good excuse to take it down - although I was was weirdly fond of the glitter .
@ Jebus- of course this is Locker's fault. I hear he was running his glue vaping biz out of there.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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ghot my self what ever, but the need to break up the "DAB FACTORY" residue has me asking
Can ya' scrape and smoke the goo?
but reAlly my mention of the No More Grease,
TO BREAK IT UP
COMES FROM THE WAY OILS THEN MIX TO FORM A BIGGER MESS ?
BUT YEAH, SOME TYPES OF RESIDUE WILL LOOSEN UNDER A SMEAR OF MORE GOO.
from the ideas offered in the 2nd post:
If you have some margarine, butter, olive oil, coconut oil, or even peanut butter lying around, you can use it to clean resin from bowl pieces and surfaces.
The resin will absorb the oil and soften it, making it easier to remove. The downside of using an oil is that you’re left with a whole new mess.
These oils are all easy to remove with soap and water though (?!-YMMV),
so using oils is perfectly viable for cleaning skin, hard surfaces and bowl pieces. Don’t use oil for cleaning fabrics.
SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL GET MESSY FAST,
FIND & STAY ON THE GRUNTS YOU GET TO HELP.
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justthemaid
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Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2017 - 05:04am PT
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I'm out of money to pay any more grunts. They've all been totally worthless anyhow. (subject for separate rant thread)
Can ya' scrape and smoke the goo?
If you were that desperate - probably but... ewwww. I vaccumed a veritable haystack of pot stems out of one of the closets.- so my Shark dust chamber might be a better place to forage.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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You might try denatured alcohol as well, maidy. I find it works better at removing marijuana resins than isopropyl alcohol in the strength available in rubbing alcohol.
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Roadstead
Sport climber
Spokane, Wash.
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I clean trimming equipment with Ox Clean and the hottest water you can stand.
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Don Paul
Mountain climber
Denver CO
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I'd try one of the meth lab remediation companies, in Colorado you can't sell a property that tests positive for methamphetamine so you have to hire grunts to remove the drywall and start all over. If your plan is to hire grunts and have them remove the concentrate with solvents, please remember to have them wear aspirators etc. since those chemicals can cause brain damage.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Damn, Maidy, best of luck on that chore. As if the general hassle and loss of rent and all the rest of that BS wasn't enough....
BAd
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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TSP Tri Sodium Phosphate works like a champ! Rince well, Then Primer on all painted surfaces.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2017 - 06:45am PT
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Just sticky marijanna residue everywhere- no meth was present. Not how you made the leap to that scenario. If it had been a meth lab I would just torch the place and collect the insurance.
The grunt is me. The stuff will clean up- it's just a lot of elbow grease.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Rubbing alcohol is your cheapest, safest option. I'm sure it'll work, but you need to use it full strength. You probably have some already, so you can try it and see.
Rubbing alcohol works better than anything else for pine sap, too. And when it evaporates, it smells like a pine tree.
It won't smell like a pine tree when it lifts weed tar off the walls though, it'll probably smell like your last tenants.
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BAd Wife
Social climber
Tehachapi
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I've been using De-Solv-It Contractor's Solvent (from ACE), though for another project. Used undiluted it's paint-remover grade. Non-toxic and doesn't leave a bad odor. Here's what it says on the label:
"Works 100% of the time--guaranteed! Removes carpet & floor adhesive, caulk & silicone, roofing tar, asphalt, grease & oil, wet foam & paint, and more."
It's biodegradable with no harmful vapors, and it can be used on anything, including skin and hair. You DO have to let it sit while it gets to work, but only up to 25 minutes. Pretty inexpensive and, for holistic health nuts like me its non-toxicity, coupled with its effectiveness and nice odor, means a lot. The fact that it can remove asphalt & tar suggests that cannabis residues may be a piece of cake with this stuff (cannabis cakes, mmmm).
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2017 - 06:56am PT
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"BAd wife" LOL
I actually have some Desolve-it i was using for graffiti removal. It does have a little toxicity in spite of it's claims. Might be a bit harsh for the bamboo floring but the kitchen is Pergo .
Seems like alcolol or TSP would be easiest on the walls.
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WBraun
climber
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Orange peel degreaser products work the best.
Not all are the same though.
The commercial degreasers are the best but cost the most.
If that doesn't do then I go to Rapid Remover.
But be warned it IS expensive but it is the only thing that works.
It's $55 a gallon.
I use a lot of this stuff to remove vinyl graphics glue residue that remains after removing the reflective stripes and graphics.
Good luck as I know what you are going thru ....
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Next renters? A billion dollar deposit and GPS tracker under the skin.
BAd
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2017 - 07:49am PT
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A explosive GPS tracker that I can detonate remotely would be preferrable.
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Faafo
Trad climber
California
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You could go to your local smoke shop and try a bong cleaner solution, I bet that'll cut right through the resins.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Sounds like they had a honey oil operation going, yer lucky they didn't blow the place up. Good luck getting that stuff off what a nightmare.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I lean towards the Kilz for it’s expediency. I first thought getting some OG oil-based would be the way but that might soften the tar. I’d go with two coats of water based. The floors are the real problem. I’d definitely check out those commercial products suggested. Minersl spirits would prolly work but would be a tad hazardous. GOOD LUCK!
ps
Good rental yards rent airless spray guns.
Or just borrow a ST sprayer.
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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I second TSP. Either that or go to home depot and get industrial degreaser. Industrial degreaser will cut anything. Yeah, you will either need to replace drywall or seal then repaint. One other option is once you get the walls real clean you might be able to skim coat the drywall with mud then put down a good primer then paint.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2017 - 08:51am PT
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I agree primer and paint will do on most the walls. I need to get actual globs off around the stove though .
Sad thing with these tenants- they started out great. Super clean and paid rent ontime for two years. As soon as they quit their day-jobs it all went to hell. Place turned into Sanford Sons and they couldn't pay bills any more.
@ batrock- speaking of fire hazard...they also ran un protected interior Romex under the lawn out to the garage. Installed a way over-amped panel that re-routed 75% of the ( antiquated) house electric according to my electrician. I initially tried to reason with the tenants to remove it The pot grow was less than an issue than the overloaded 60-year-old wiring. They refused to remove it, then stopped paying rent and started filing lawsuits against me .
The separate garage will no longer be included with the rental in the future.
@ Locker- yup I got schooled on LAs bias to renters over landlords. Took about 6 months and every dime of savings to get them out.
@ warbler- I considered the vacation/ air-b option but Canoga Park isnt exactly a prime vacation destination. I also live 4 hours from the house so managing a short term rental would be a pain without hiring someone to look after it daily.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Hey Warbler, how do you manage your rental, do you have someone who cleans and preps it? The new electronic locks solve the problem of getting the key to the renter. I am thinking of making my accessory dwelling unit a vacation rental but I am gone a lot and it seems like it would be more hands-on than a long term rental.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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I had a long distance rental and finally hired a manager. 10% is not a bad headache remedy. Rents are soaring right now here so you could be doing well soon.
Good luck.
Rubbing alcahol has water added to it. The straight stuff is pretty cheap and the hardware store in the paint dept.
Goof-Off products are really good for removing all kinds of tough stuff.
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BigB
Trad climber
Red Rock
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I own a painting co. in Vegas, and occasionally we have had to deal with this...I'm pretty sure it aint THC. Anyhoo we lightly sand the walls, then prime with a blocker/sealant primer(kilz is ok, there are others) and then repaint.
B
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Uh, I don't know about the OP.
Personally, I don't know a single pothead who is a "neat freak"
Just ask my wife . . .
P.S.
Nature could be the exception . . .
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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If you have ever used Rapid Remover and have suffered bouts of paranoid schizophrenic delusions you may be entitiled to a cash settlement.... call 1 800 crk loon....
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Acetone is the bomb, but will remove some finishes
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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I had a renter go on disability and start a pot farm in the attic of my rental. He disconnected all the ducts on the heat system to make room for the plants and left a huge mess when I finally got him out.
Of course he was all over Facebook playing sports, portraying him self as super dad and taking selfie's doing yoga by candlelight (while his kids were freezing). Namaste you lazy Fuk!
Worse yet, it makes me wonder every time I take a bong hit- am I supporting some sh!thead?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Personally, I don't know a single pothead who is a "neat freak"
Just ask my wife . . .
P.S.
Nature could be the exception . . .
Not beyond the realm of possibility
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Don Paul
Mountain climber
Denver CO
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"neither growrooms nor concentrate production produces sticky stubstances which coat vertical surfaces"...
Hmm, good point. Must have been some other kind of drug lab, then.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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If it's tar from smoking too much weed, Windex should take it off the walls.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2017 - 05:23am PT
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Lacquer thinner can clean anything, all the way down to the Earth's core.
LOL^^ Can it clean up my act? *budump-bumb*
Must have been some other kind of drug lab, then.
Yeah- who knows or cares at this point? I just need it gone.
@ Chaz- This is way out of Windex league.
UPdate: they are now suing to get their deposit back LOL!!!!!
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2017 - 08:00am PT
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Actually- they are suing my idiot management company. (yet another subject for a long rant).
I'll probably end up suing them for that same deposit as well... since they retained that deposit for "repairs" ... which I'm doing - not them. I haven't seen a dime of it.
The whole situation is completely f*#ked up from every angle.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I can simplify things for you. Lemme know.
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Stupid Merican
climber
Crankloon, OH
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I wonder if the OP has ever even tried a single marijuana!
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Anything other than TSP (Rince well) may give you problems when you try to paint over it. Beware. Problems like paint separation from the wall and bubbles and crackle's in the paint Etc.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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You can buy range fed cockroaches that will eat that sh#t off the walls...Then they crawl outside and die...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Anything other than TSP (Rince well) may give you problems when you try to paint over it.
Not necessarily true but tests are definitely indicated. If it is a 'tarry'
substance than it is unlikely that a water-based Kilz would react with it.
Anything solvent based would be far more likely to. Since it is possibly
organically based the amount of time that has elapsed would argue for it to
be well dessicated by now and therefore rather unlikely to be activated by
a coat or two of water-based Kilz.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Ridgway CO
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Use 91% rubbing alcohol.
The cheaper 70% stuff barely works, don't bother.
Let is soak in a bit, it will dissolve and wipe up much easier.
TSP won't touch it.
Some other chemicals will, but 91% isopropyl is safest and cheapest way to go.
Kilz primer, the red writing label oil based kind, not the gold or premium, they are latex based.
There are several ways to make concentrate, sounds like they were doing the alcohol evaporate method and used too much heat and it splattered everywhere.
Amateurs...
I had a professional cleaning/ power washing service for 10 years.
Been there, done that...
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2017 - 06:00am PT
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I'll take that # for Vinnie Reilly. No really....
Won't the roaches get stoned and lazy and not finish the job? Seems to happen with the hired help a lot at that house.
I actually had to deal with a similar situation when I bought the house 20 years ago. The owners were very heavy cigarrette smokers. I used TSP at the time but it didn't work so well in the kitchen where it was smoke residue mixed with cooking grease. I had issues with peeling and had to go back - resand/reclean and ended up using oil based primer on the whole kitchen to get the paint to stick. Probabaly have to do the same this time. Meh.
I think I'll start with the alcohol and work my way through the list here. I'll keep y'all apraised.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 10, 2017 - 06:24am PT
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I spent 4 days scrubbing lard off a kitchen wall before it could be painted...glad i was hourly..I painted over the pink walls in the bedroom and overnight cockroaches had crawled up the wet paint.. I didn't know roaches could live at 8,000 feet in the winter...Maidy..I feel your pain...rj
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Nov 10, 2017 - 06:33am PT
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We gotta go hammer and tongs on those a-holz. Gah.
BAd
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Nov 10, 2017 - 06:44am PT
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If you have ever used Rapid Remover and have suffered bouts of paranoid schizophrenic delusions you may be entitiled to a cash settlement.... call 1 800 crk loon....
;)
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 10, 2017 - 09:40pm PT
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TSP followed by a good coat of oil-based KILZ if you can still buy that in CA. Use a bunch of shitty dollar store abrasive scrubs along with blue shop paper towels and throw then out as soon as they get grotty.Skinning your walls with a second layer of 1/4" or 3/8" sheetrock is also an option if you need to give up on the clean up. Lots of notched trimwork is the real problem with this option but hey, it's a rental, right?
Bong cleaning products like Liquid Grunge Off perhaps?
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2017 - 08:10am PT
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@ Dingus: I did manage to get rid of cigarette smell with the TSP and liberal coats of oil primer and paint. on every surface and cabinet. I replaced every bit of flooring and carpet and took down most of the popcorn ceilings . I also replaced every light fixture , wall switch etc - anything that had a surface that could collect stinky residue.
Looks like I get to do it all over again. Fortunately- this's stuff has an odd odor but it's not nearly as discusting or strong as cigarette smell IMO . It's just harder to scrub off.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2017 - 10:27am PT
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The cigarette smell eradication project was BME- era ( before Mr. E) FYI :)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 11, 2017 - 10:42am PT
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I’ve seen a coat of Kilz completely cure a nicotine-coated crib. It was the solvent based Kilz which you might have to go buy in Palmdale, so take some heat, or Vinnie. FWIW, how good does it have to be as a rental in Canoga Park? Jess sayin it only has to be gud nuff.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2017 - 03:27pm PT
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Update on latest cleaning efforts in case anyone ever has the misfortune to have to deal with a similar cleaning nightmare.
Things that don't work:
Isopropyl alcohol: worthless
Denatured alcohol: worthless
Goo gone: semi-worthless- only works on light removal with a lot of scrubbing
Orange cleaner: semi-worthless- only works on light removal with a lot of scrubbing.
Edit to add: mineral spirits- lot of stink and work for limited results.
Things that kinda work:
TSP: removes the haze and film with lots of scrubbing with a scrubbie. It did remove the deep sticky pile off the Pergo floor after soaking and multiple re- scrubs.
Does NOT remove thicker splattered stuff on the plaster walls.
Pine Sol mixed about 3-4X stronger than recommended + very aggressive scrubbie was the only thing that sort of got the globs off the plaster, woodwork and appliances. .. and that's only *kinda* off... not totally removed.
Scrubbies gum up pretty rapidly and have to be thrown awayBTW . I'll let the oil primer handle the rest at this point.
I haven't tried paint thinner or any grease- based options since i didn't have a respirator with m and oily stuff seemed like an additional cleaning headache.
I still have a Saltillo tile floor covered in this crap I haven't tackled yet. The porous surface will likely need something Knar like muriatic after TSP and stripper to get the black sh#t off. I can't find a floor refinishing company that will deal with it.
Meh
F*#king potheads
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Nov 22, 2017 - 03:37pm PT
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Acetone? Ummm, I would do some reading about how to handle it safely in large quantities. Good luck.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:51pm PT
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Dr. Pepper. Some soak time if possible.
Don’t ask me how I know this.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Nov 23, 2017 - 05:54am PT
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Who purchased the house for you? Mom&dad?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 23, 2017 - 08:43am PT
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Did you do a test area of oil-base and/or water-based Kilz?
Not gonna help on the floors but it would be a lot faster elsewhere.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2017 - 07:48pm PT
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@wtf: yeah I had the same thought about inhaling this stuff. It's far more difficult to remove than cigarette gunk. Studies I've read show no link between marijuana and lung cancer, but anything that sticky and insidious can't be good for your insides. If I was a smoker this would be strong incentive to quit . It will be interesting to see what other respiratory issues crop up with heavy users over the next few decades. .
@ Reilly it will have to be oil based the first round on the walls.
"jeff constine
Who purchased the house for you? Mom&dad?"
Nope... thank you Northride Earthquake
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damo62
Social climber
Brisbane
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Nov 25, 2017 - 07:17pm PT
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At this point, take it down to the sticks!
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Nov 26, 2017 - 07:01am PT
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A truly epic cleaning job. Stay strong, Maidy!
BAd
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Nov 26, 2017 - 09:17am PT
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I blame Locker. LMAO
Locker's reply
I'm also oddly honored...
ROTFLMAO
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IntheFog
climber
Mostly the next place
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Nov 26, 2017 - 12:37pm PT
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I've never had to use it, but I know painters who prefer Zinsser Gardz to Kilz for damaged drywall. Gardz is supposed to prevent the sort of problems Reilly mentions, such as water soaking through and loosening paper or leftover wallpaper paste. I even know a some who use Gardz before they patch or skim-coat. That seems extreme to me, but they swear by it.
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John M
climber
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Nov 26, 2017 - 12:47pm PT
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I wonder how much it would cost to have that residue tested. I am curious as to what it is. Any scientist out there with a lab?
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2017 - 12:38pm PT
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Well- whatever it is... it sucks. Painting starts today.
One of the reasons they got evicted was for converting the garage into a grow room. They were bottling and selling... something ( there's rolls of blank "r/x" labels all over the place) There's sticky paths where they tracked resin all over the house. Turns out they disabled the stove regulator to burn extra hot and also tampered with the house wiring to run extra juice to ythe garage. - so I know a portion of it is pot residue but they may have been cooking something else. Would be interesting to know what it is.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 27, 2017 - 01:11pm PT
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Black tar heroin maybe? Apparently makes a mess...
You can order narcotic test kits online. Same ones the local cops use.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 27, 2017 - 01:35pm PT
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I doubt they would be labeling black tar heroin with Rx labels. Thanks to our feckless leaders the decriminalization of pot is supporting a huge black market, something it was supposed to prevent
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 27, 2017 - 01:39pm PT
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RSO
Ron Simpson oil.(edit; is what they were making)
A friend has 80% of her wealth in rental properties at one location. I'll make sure she reads this. I warned her that one bad tenant can put your finances in the crapper.
There are still some good mid-cap stocks available. Diversify or die.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2017 - 02:47pm PT
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Pro strength Goof Off for the win! !!
Takes the sh#t off without the epic scrubbing. I'm feeing totally high and the house may blow up from the fumes howevever.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Nov 27, 2017 - 03:53pm PT
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Yeah, the fumes from that stuff are GNARLY. Get those windows open and use a fan. Ugh. We're pullin' for you, Maidy!
BAd
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 27, 2017 - 04:21pm PT
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Now if we can find some product to remove the *%*!#& stickers on gifts...
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Nov 27, 2017 - 04:47pm PT
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...tampered with the house wiring to run extra juice to ythe garage... That’s what the investigators would have found after I torched the place...
What you want probably isn’t sold at Home Depot. Anything that works probably has fumes and causes cancer, and there are laws against this class of solvent from being sold at non commercial outlets. Call some pros.
Next time check criminal and credit, go month to month after a period, don’t renew if the place isn’t pristine. Bet you missed these points as they prevent 99% of problems and it’s been expensive as fuk, huge difference a bad tenant makes.
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Stupid Merican
climber
Crankloon, OH
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Nov 27, 2017 - 04:56pm PT
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You could try one of the resins to see if it is a marijuana!
Or maybe get your stoner guy to verify...
HUFFING GOOF OFF IS BAD, MMKAY?
;^)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 27, 2017 - 06:09pm PT
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Pot residue should clean up with isopropyl alcohol and some scrubbing.
Unless it was like lacquered on somehow. Possibly the result of hash extraction.
Speaking of hash oil extraction, and landlords, here's a cautionary tale from up in The Emerald Triangle - an area largely devoid of people, yet brimming with cautionary tales. These a-holes sure bit off more than they can chew. Don't let this happen to you!
...around October of 2016, the Pauls allegedly agreed to rent their detached garage to Mohr for between $100 and $200 a month so he could trim marijuana in there.
...Tamara Paul smelled gas and went into the garage to investigate, finding Renner and Mohr with a "small" case of butane, according to the affidavit. She allegedly told investigators that the young men told her they were just making a small amount of hash and that she told them to be careful.
First came the explosion, and it came out of nowhere.
Then came the flames, and as they reached some 40 feet in the air, what sounded like gunshots — hundreds of them — echoing down the quiet residential street...
...three young men — Xavier Renner, Arron Mohr and Aaron Schisler — were taken to the hospital with third-degree burns covering an estimated 60 to 90 percent of their bodies is that the explosion was the result of a butane hash lab.
Five weeks later, Renner died in the University of California Davis Medical Center's burn unit...
In court Sept. 18, the Pauls pleaded not guilty to charges of manufacturing a controlled substance, manufacturing concentrated cannabis using a volatile solvent, allowing a place for preparing a controlled substance, child endangerment, drug possession and murder.
https://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/rio-dells-hash-lab-murder-case/Content?oid=6186361
I guess smoking pot's no fun anymore, now that it's legal, so some people have to make it drugs to keep that edge. Only senior citizen hippy throwbacks smoke buds today. The kids are all into dabs, oil, shatter now. Probably not one in twenty could even roll a joint.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 27, 2017 - 07:51pm PT
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If you scrub with full strength TSP and spray with oil base KILZ then you should be good to go with your previous tenants.
Otherwise you are in the realm of Galloot Cologne. Don't try it people...
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
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Pre screening isn't a failsafe. Im not sure what I could have done differently in the beginning. The couple passed a credit and background check 3 years ago when they applied. ( at least the property management company *told* me they did) For the first two years they were clean and paid the rent on time. I did inspections once a year and noticed the electrical modifications and a couple other lease violations early this year. What changed was their occupations- they quit their jobs to " work at home" and everything went to hell in in less than a year.
I dont think being drug dealers is working out for them . Definitely didn't work out for me.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Nov 28, 2017 - 07:46am PT
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A property management company is a double agent, they work in the interest of the tenant as well. I had an ex con literally just out of prison placed by a property manager because his wife passed the background check. That wouldn’t have flown past me. Like 3 mos later there’s an eviction, neighbors were getting threatened, etc.
Credit is a funny thing, they all have blemishes, that’s often why they’re renters. Love to see the report for these potheads, bet it’s awesome. I don’t trust others to screen any of that stuff after watching a property manager deal with it for a few years - all losers.
Property manager doesn’t care, they can look at that mess and see the $$$ they’ll make on the cleanup, or maybe they won’t bother and the next tenants will be even bigger losers to live in a degraded place - they get their take of your rent all the same.
Clean the place up so it attracts good ez tenants and manage it yourself. Be patient and ruthless screening, the place empty an extra month is cheap compared to a bad tenant.
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