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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jun 27, 2017 - 11:29am PT
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There is a role for struggling, tough love, and facing real consequences.
Half of the population carries an IQ that is below the average.
The earliest terms for classifying individuals of low intelligence were medical or legal terms that preceded the development of IQ testing.[7][8] The legal system recognized a concept of some individuals being so cognitively impaired that they were not responsible for criminal behavior. Medical doctors sometimes encountered adult patients who could not live independently, being unable to take care of their own daily living needs.
In every society, there are numerous such people. What differs is how they are dealt with, left on the streets? Used as cannon fodder?
It is easy to throw out the helpless and incapable, and confuse them with the merely lazy.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jun 27, 2017 - 11:42am PT
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LOL... I haven't read any of your rants over the past day, but I just came across this and thought y'all would enjoy having something new to meltdown over.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 27, 2017 - 11:54am PT
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LOL... I haven't read any of your rants over the past day
Most of us don't read your WOBS.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jun 27, 2017 - 12:08pm PT
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No, they are not winning but ultimately losing.
Couldn't agree more.
When you do not worship the almighty $$ you get it.
When you can hear, feel and see life, you get it.
This is where for the most part, Americans are stupid.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 27, 2017 - 12:18pm PT
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Billionaires are setting up fiefdoms all over the world, with Trump leading the charge in America. The right wing fringe is falling all over themselves to be ruled by their new overlords. They want to return to a simpler time where the person with all the money tells them what to do, and what is right and wrong.
America was created by people who were sick and tired of that sh*t. Oh, the irony.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jun 27, 2017 - 12:21pm PT
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If we had a functioning congress they would argue a bunch and then both parties would make some concessions to amend the ACA.
If we really wanted to fix things there would be a shift to some sort of single payer system. I'll never understand how having a massive for-profit insurance industry taking the biggest cut of health care dollars makes sense to anyone.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Jun 27, 2017 - 12:32pm PT
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I'll never understand how having a massive for-profit insurance industry taking the biggest cut of health care dollars makes sense to anyone
I agree. It's not right to make a profit off the infirm and sick. I suppose an argument for the industry is that it finances research.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 27, 2017 - 12:35pm PT
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There were more democratic votes
The Dems have always had a majority
Gerrymandering, voter suppression and cross check
(and Russian voter hacking)
gave us Trump and a Republican Congress
It's rule by the Minority, like most third World Countries
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 27, 2017 - 12:43pm PT
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an argument for the industry is that it finances research.
The industry is the one making everyone sick, then the idiots in the industry takes the people's money to figure out what is making everyone sick and to find a cure all while making more poisons.
Around and around in circles these fools go chasing their tails misleading everyone only to make money.
Industrialization is what's making everyone sick.
Health care is now industrialization also.
The machine is killing the soul which then kills the material body.
This why more and more are looking towards natrual ayurvedic health.
Americans are stoopid slaves of the machine ....
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jun 27, 2017 - 12:47pm PT
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raising money
Hey Ken I think you meant wasting not raising but since we know the wasted money went somewhere...who's pockets got lined with this money that was 'raised'?
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 27, 2017 - 01:09pm PT
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^^^Yep. I think there is a momentum for single payer, which didn't really exist even a few years ago. Americans now view healthcare as a right. I expect 2020 dem nomineees to openly support it.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 27, 2017 - 01:27pm PT
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It really comes down to whether you think healthcare is a basic necessity, or huge opportunity for capitalism.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 27, 2017 - 02:04pm PT
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WASHINGTON — Senator Elizabeth Warren now says Democrats should endorse a government-run, single-payer health insurance system...
Well, that's a monumental 'duh'...
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 27, 2017 - 02:18pm PT
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government-run, single-payer health insurance system... DOA
like Medicare for all and eliminate all private insurance companies...
who give tens of millions of dollars to congress's elections campaigns
ok good for you Elizabeth Warren, next you can suggest free college for everyone
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 27, 2017 - 02:20pm PT
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We are sick and profoundly stupid society.
The real problem is our media allows propaganda that dupes the right wingers to vote against their best interests.
No one is stupid enough to want our system the way it is, they were brainwashed to vote for people that are beholden to the Insurance Companies.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 27, 2017 - 02:31pm PT
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The True History of Libertarianism in America: A Phony Ideology to Promote a Corporate Agenda
Before Milton Friedman was earning plaudits as an economic genius, he was a shill for the real estate industry and an early pioneer for big business propaganda known as libertarianism.
http://www.alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda
The purpose of libertarianism, as it was originally created — was to supplement big business lobbying with a pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-economics rationale to back up its policy and legislative attacks on labor and government regulations.
It's all pro business propaganda, yet the greedy folks cling to it like it's their savior....
Don't steal (tax) my hard earned money that I was only able to earn because of the things that taxes paid for....
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 27, 2017 - 02:52pm PT
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^^^^
Dr. Shockley, the inventor of the transistor lost his reputation after publishing the same information
wiki
Shockley argued that a higher rate of reproduction among the less intelligent was having a dysgenic effect, and that a drop in average intelligence would ultimately lead to a decline in civilization.
Shockley also proposed that individuals with IQs below 100 be paid to undergo voluntary sterilization.[34]
Anthropologist Roger Pearson, whose writings are based on an evolutionary and racialist[35] approach, has defended Shockley in a self-published book co-authored with Shockley.[36] University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee professor Edgar G. Epps[37] argued that "William Shockley's position lends itself to racist interpretations
FA. Shockely's Ceiling
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jun 27, 2017 - 03:12pm PT
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So if Single payer is so good, why do people from other countries, people in power, come over to the good old USA to get medical care?
All the time.
Most of you guys don't "get it" at all.
Get the federal government out of health care and we would ALL be better off.
wise up.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 27, 2017 - 03:17pm PT
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So if Single payer is so good, why do people from other countries, people in power, come over to the good old USA to get medical care?
Only the RICH come here for care
Why do many Americans go to other countries for health care?
I don't think your post was very wise if you want to pay less for the same exact care,
it seems the opposite of wise to hand over your money to banksters that don't give a rats ass about your health care
The Only part of Government that is in Health Care, be it the ACA or Trump care, Or Single payer is who pays for your care
it either comes from your pay check or taxes
it costs way less if you pay for everyone through taxes
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