US national policy issues looming after healthcare?


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Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 24, 2017 - 07:05pm PT
So much has been threatened so quickly, it's hard to stay on top of it all. Can other's chime in with handy links or more info on these and other stuff I've missed?

 H.R. 861 proposal to shut down the EPA! (;

 Budget that will slash NIH funding by 20%, which will cause about 20% of the cancer research labs (and other human health based research) in universities across America to shut down, as their leaders look for alternate careers like community college lecturer. This stuff will NOT be picked up by pharmaceutical industry, because they just cherry-pick the stuff that is nearly profit-ready after a decade or more of government investment in basic research. More info:

 Change in rules where fed lands can be given to states without accounting for the economic consequences (and the economic consequences are but a small fraction of the long term consequences for our national heritage). That was step 1 in the process of turning over lands to states that are more vulnerable to development interests

 Supreme court nominee... Elizabeth Warren is proposing that a consideration be postponed until after the FBI investigation into Trump and gang is concluded. Logic is that Republicans were fine waiting for a year with no supportable reason, and now the reason is that we can wait a little longer to avoid having a potential convict pick who we are stuck with for decades

 Trump tax transcripts and deeper audit to track down assets around the world, and laws to enforce disclosure and accountability for financial conflicts of interest

 What about all the vacant posts that Trump is not filling?

 FCC, net neutrality, and removal of consumer privacy protections where network providers can sell off every detail they can glean about you when you use the Internet, with no disclosure to you. Can be used by manipulative campaign software to alter election outcomes (such as was used by Cambridge Analytica to alter people's perceptions to get Trump into office).

 Building the wall?

 Immigration blockage based on nationality rather than based on attributes of the individuals? Designed to "stop terrorists" but it doesn't block a single country that gave us the 9/11 hijackers, where Trump has business interests in at least a few of those.

 Trump firing the person leading an investigation in New York that would delay potential discoveries of money laundering and other nefariousness

 What can Trump and gang really do to restore a high level of employment among under-educated people in regions of the country where businesses have no incentive to operate? Some places can get coal or oil jobs, but these have net negative long term consequences for our country, both environmentally and economically as we lag behind other countries in alternative energy development.

-How will Trump and gang deal with increasing unemployment caused by technology automation?

What else is on your radar?

away from the ground
Mar 24, 2017 - 07:07pm PT
Sweet thread, bro.

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 24, 2017 - 07:20pm PT
Getting rid of the Falsifier In Chief would be a good national policy issue to attend to.

But yes, the EPA is a Biggie.
Dept of State, USAID, Public Broadcasting, Planned Parenthood....
Todd Eastman

Bellingham, WA
Mar 24, 2017 - 08:41pm PT
Stay up on the news and determine how you need to find the facts...

... as best suits you. It ain't easy...
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Mar 24, 2017 - 08:54pm PT
It's staggering the amount of protections that have been curtailed at the behest of industry and greed. Unprecedented. And the moron in the White House either doesn't know or doesn't care about the consequences, or even the why.

I can't wait to see what intelligent contributions that Jody makes to this thread.

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Mar 25, 2017 - 08:35pm PT

The massive increase in defense spending, especially on nukes.

Mar 25, 2017 - 09:05pm PT
I would love to have been a fly on the wall to hear the conversation between Bill and Hillary following Donald's statement encouraging Putin to hack a US function. When a putative leader says something like this, who knows what some wing nut may do?
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Boulder climber
Mar 25, 2017 - 10:22pm PT

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 25, 2017 - 10:27pm PT
The massive increase in defense spending, especially on nukes

And a president who has opposed nuclear weapons all his life has wound up asking Congress to fund a new class of ballistic missile submarine, a new stealth bomber, upgrades to the current stock of nuclear weapons, a new cruise missile and billions of dollars of other programs.

from npr

So we are building a fleet of 12 ballistic missile subs, doomsday machines, to replace our cold war Ohio Class boats. Each sub carries 24 missiles. Each missile carries 8 to 12 independently targeted warheads. Thus one boat can deliver around 240 warheads that make Hiroshima look like a firecracker.

This has gone on during Obama's watch. These baby's come at the estimated price of $5B ea.

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Mar 26, 2017 - 07:44am PT
You're very correct about this. But Trump wants more.
And to think he's the guy with the football--now that's REALLY

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 26, 2017 - 08:07am PT
Why do we build 'em if we're not gonna use 'em?

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 26, 2017 - 08:38am PT
Unlike Trumpcare , which was an incoherent set of policies with no constituency , nuclear weapons could serve a certain constituency with social benefits included..

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Mar 26, 2017 - 08:40am PT
Want to talk about government waste? I worked on the B-2 bomber project designing composite tooling; I saw so much bullshit and waste I just shook my head and took my money. I could tell stories ...... The B-2 cost a cool $1,000,000,000 each - and that was for an airplane. Defense spending in this country is a joke and a welfare program for the 'defense' industry.

@ Jody. If ending the EPA gives you that nice tingly feeling then you're an idiot. The EPA was one of the best things to come from good old Nixon; you must be too young to remember the awful smog, leaded gasoline, sh#t dumped into rivers and lakes, acid rain, and etc. Sure, private industry will police themselves for the good of the country - not. Profit can't and shouldn't be the only motivator in life. Oddly enough, all these programs actually had reasons for their creation. Yes, some EPA regulations might be over the top, but to throw the baby out with the bathwater is just stupid.

Mountain climber
Mar 26, 2017 - 08:46am PT
Shutting down the EPA would make me happier than repealing Obummercare.

I am praying for you. . . . . Again, sheesh!
Spiny Norman

Social climber
Boring, Oregon
Mar 26, 2017 - 08:48am PT
Nobel laureate and former NIH Director Varmus explains how 45's proposed cuts would extinguish the US lead in biomedical research and innovation.

And of course the proposed cuts to NOAA, NSF, EPA etc. are even worse.

The GOP policy goal is — apparently — to make United States as a nation as stupid as the stupidest people in the GOP.

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 26, 2017 - 01:08pm PT
Flaming rivers and smoggy sunsets make great postcards..

Mar 26, 2017 - 01:15pm PT

rj: someday i owe you a beer or four for all of the out loud laughs you've given me over the years...

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 26, 2017 - 04:34pm PT
Nahoo...Thanks...send beer and hold the implant...

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 26, 2017 - 05:18pm PT
Back to the nuke thing for a minute...


"Gen. James E. Cartwright, a retired vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who was among Mr. Obama’s most influential nuclear strategists, said he backed the upgrades because precise targeting allowed the United States to hold fewer weapons. But “what going smaller does,” he acknowledged, “is to make the weapon more thinkable.”
As Mr. Obama enters his final year in office, the debate has deep implications for military strategy, federal spending and his legacy.
The B61 Model 12, the bomb flight-tested last year in Nevada, is the first of five new warhead types planned as part of an atomic revitalization estimated to cost up to $1 trillion over three decades. As a family, the weapons and their delivery systems move toward the small, the stealthy and the precise."

Edit: Meant to add that this trend when combined with a President who has stated he might use them is a bad situation.

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Mar 26, 2017 - 06:35pm PT

Not only that, Kris, but the price tag. We could buy a lot
of healthcare for that amount. . .
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