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snowhazed
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Oaksterdam, CA
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Mar 18, 2017 - 12:11pm PT
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Any AKC or UKC bloodlines in them?
Show us the mom and pop
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Mar 18, 2017 - 01:22pm PT
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Wilmot, It's unfair to bunch Pitbulls into one group, they'd all kill each other.
Just joking. Seriously though, I don't think I've ever met an aggressive Pit that I didn't expect to be aggressive.
My friends have full Pit's and they are big babies, just want to roll on their backs and be tussled.
I know that the mean ones exist, but that's due solely to the fact that that many people have dogs for the wrong reasons. Any dog can be a great, well behaved dog with the right human.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 18, 2017 - 01:22pm PT
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I was profoundly impressed by this NATURE program, in which they took two dogs that were scheduled for execution, and turned them over to professional trainers, for an astonishingly short time, like a couple of months.
In one case, the dog was sold to a police department as a well-trained cadaver dog.
In the other case, the dog competed in advanced Sheep Dog Trials.
It was astonishing what they were able to do, under the training of a professional.
Holly, an 85-pound bloodhound, chewed everything in sight and by the time she was 10 months old, had been removed from six different homes. She was languishing in a shelter, with her days numbered, until professional dog trainer Larry Allen intervened. Having trained countless bloodhounds for law enforcement agencies across the United States, Allen sets out to help Holly harness her natural abilities as a tracker in the hope that one day she would become a competent police dog.
Herbie, a two-year-old bearded collie, couldn’t rein in his impish personality or his penchant for attacking livestock. His errant ways had put him at risk of being shot by a local farmer. Fortunately, sheepdog trainer Barbara Sykes sensed Herbie was more than just a marauder. In her gentle yet firm manner, she coaches him hoping to hone his skills to herd rather than bite sheep on her working farm in England.
Beginning with the initial meeting between dog and trainer, viewers follow Sykes and Allen as they apply their professional skills to transform these misfit mutts into the noble working dogs they were bred to be. As their stories unfold, we witness the powerful bond that develops between trainer and pupil.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/underdogs-introduction/352/
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James Wilcox
Trad climber
Goleta/Virginia Lakes
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Mar 18, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
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If you get a dog and lock it up in your backyard alone for 12 hours a day without any interaction your gonna have a problem dog. Some dogs will chew everything in sight, some get mean, some just get morose. But whatever the end result, it's usually not good.
And breeders like the OP is the main reason why shelters have an abundant supply of dogs, imo.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 18, 2017 - 02:42pm PT
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So how did Pits get to be the incarnation of rampage and spontaneous horror?
At one time they were considered the perfect family dog. Petey from the old Our Gang Little Rascals was a pit as was the Buster Brown shoe dog.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 18, 2017 - 02:50pm PT
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they started eating little kids and the occasional adult.
there are too many people and too many pets in the world. we can't really do anything about the overpopulation of people but we certainly can stop breeding dogs...
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WyoRockMan
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Grizzlyville, WY
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Mar 18, 2017 - 03:04pm PT
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So how did Pits get to be the incarnation of rampage and spontaneous horror?
Statistics.
Pitbulls cause more human deaths than all other breeds combined. That is a fact. Yet they only represent about 5% of pets. If it were simply a training/handler issue those numbers wouldn’t be so skewed, breed is the only other variable that can explain the statistics. German shepherds and Rottweilers, the other two breeds which regularly cause human deaths don’t have the same rates of carnage, despite being more prevalent as pets. Is it because they have better training/handlers or due to the breed? Using a bit of logic applied to the number of animals vs damage, it comes down to one of two options, A) Breed matters or B) Pitbull owners are an order of magnitude worse at training/handling their dogs.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Mar 18, 2017 - 03:20pm PT
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Pit bulls are a plague.
Pit bulls make up 6% of the dog population, but they're responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Mar 18, 2017 - 03:33pm PT
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Locker you don't know shitt
You spout off on every thread like you actually have something of value to offer.
I've been attacked by pit bulls twice and killed one (euthanized due to injuries received) that was mauling a little girl in front of me. These dogs are a menace.
You can't always blame the owners for their aggressive and unpredictable behavior.
Genetically, this breed has something seriously wrong.
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lightninglycett
climber
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Mar 18, 2017 - 04:12pm PT
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seriously?!? your breeding pitbulls?? have you been to a shelter lately?
p.s. they are all gentle and kind
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c wilmot
climber
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Mar 18, 2017 - 04:59pm PT
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Generally the average pit owner I see is a young guy with tats, shaved head, short sleeve, and dark shades strutting as his cowering pit gets dragged along.
It's not so much a stereotype as it is just a fact of life. Kind of like how a guy with a giant "redneck" sticker on his vehicle tends to be driving an obnoxious jacked up truck
It's an ego thing... a defense mechanism for insecure people (the d#@&%ey guys not the responsible owners)
Unfortunetely they give the good pit owners a bad rep by association
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east side underground
climber
paul linaweaver hilton crk ca
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Mar 18, 2017 - 05:06pm PT
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border collies rule......what puppy isnt cute
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Mar 18, 2017 - 05:18pm PT
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My own rat terrier bit me, however they (like Jack Russells) only snap, they do not clamp down and rag doll you like some other breeds do.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2017 - 11:08pm PT
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As I mentioned before, these dogs are much smaller and less agressive than most pitbulls. I can pick both up at the same time. They only weigh about thirty pounds at adulthood. There is a picture of mom and pop at the start of this post but per your request, heres Chico and Teedub again.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 18, 2017 - 11:15pm PT
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Did you bite your canine harder, to prove who was in charge of the motobike ?
Well now that you mention it O'Pompous One, I have trained many of my rescue mutts in the fine art of hierarchy by biting them in the throat.
Never in a painful or hurtful manner, more like a firm toothy grab across the trachea and a deep primal growl just until you feel their tension acquiesce.
Usually only takes this one lesson to decide who among us will be the Chief Muthaf*#ker What's In Charge.
Doctor Doolittle had it nailed when he said "talk like the animals".
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Mar 19, 2017 - 05:02am PT
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I am also of two minds on pit bulls. We've got two pit bull mixes that are as loving and gentle as two dogs can be. No problems ever, and we are quite sure they'll never be a threat to anyone--child or adult. Both are from no-kill shelters, and that's where we imagine we'll always look first. Our local shelter does a beautiful job of caring for animals, and they definitely aren't in it for the pay or the percs.
On the other hand, I've encountered enough pit bulls in my life that fit the stereotype to make me cautious. I've read quite a bit about them, I know many of them, and still am not totally confident that it's always just a matter of how they are raised. I've been in fear for my life, and the life of my family, on a couple of occasions, given the clear intent of some of these dogs--and I'm not a person who has a fear of dogs. If their owners didn't come out at the last second and pull them back, I'm pretty sure what would've happened. The worst was just this past summer at a campground on the Oregon Coast--where leashes were required, but weren't used with two incredibly scary pits who came at us full gallop (spiked collars, and all).
I'm also a little confused by the OP. If the sales pitch is one part "these little guys are the cutest ever," and one part, "these guys will scare the crap out of tweekers entering your property," what's the actual story here?
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 19, 2017 - 05:11am PT
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Mar 19, 2017 - 08:27am PT
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Stupid people forget about Spaying and Neutering their pets all the time.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2017 - 09:43am PT
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Hey Flip Flop, the gunny sak and brick reply is way outa line. You dont know me and you dont know my animals. I should have expected clowns here to politicize this thread. Even suggesting that I kill my dogs is belligerent, ignorant and cruel. Tie that brick around your little scrode with that sack and take a big fall on a static line while youre at it.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 19, 2017 - 09:51am PT
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Lighten up Francis. The fact remains that dog breeders are responsible for unwanted dogs, not jokers like me. Own it, mr self righteous.
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