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John M
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Mar 19, 2017 - 10:01am PT
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ighten up Francis. The fact remains that dog breeders are responsible for unwanted dogs, not jokers like me. Own it, mr self righteous.
come on Flip Flop.. you are free to have your opinion, but what you posted was just mean. How you express you opinion says as much about you as what another person does.
I tend to agree that we don't need to keep breeding dogs. There are certainly too many. But I also understand the desire and I don't believe its all on one person. If you have a dog, then that animal is your responsibility until its death. And dumping it at a shelter does not absolve you of that responsibility.
This would go against all the people who believe in no rules, but maybe we as a society should institute some kind of social rule that tells people who want to breed that they have to also contribute funds to a no kill shelter.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Mar 19, 2017 - 10:03am PT
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Come on chainsaw, how much are they selling for?
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Petch
Gym climber
knapsack crack
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Mar 19, 2017 - 12:10pm PT
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Once you go Poodle, you don't go back!
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 19, 2017 - 01:02pm PT
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The gunny sack and cinder block isn't for the dogs
Man y'all are sensitive for a bunch of tough guys
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Mar 19, 2017 - 01:13pm PT
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One of the lowest IQ breeds ever.
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jstan
climber
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Mar 19, 2017 - 03:00pm PT
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Earlier the logic was advanced that we should accept the low probability of being injured by a neighbor's pet, because automobile accidents are more frequent. Relative frequencies are irrelevant. There is no reason for me to accept risk due to another's pet. We accept automobile risks because there is often no alternative.
When I was small our family had a dog that got into the neighbor's chicken coop. Carrying his 12 gauge our father walked us down to the back lot with the dog. Saying "once a dog has gotten into a chicken coop there is no recourse," He shot the dog saying "Now bury him." The three of us got a lesson in responsibility. Those who have a pet also have the responsibility for controlling that pet. I also think that responsibility cannot be shucked off onto an animal shelter. When one takes on a pet, it needs to be done with full knowledge of the responsibility one is undertaking.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 19, 2017 - 03:09pm PT
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Farmers are tough. My dad had a few tough draconian lessons to teach as well. He was a farmer and an Episcopal minister. All I can say is god help you if you mess with the lords Corn, Cabbage or chickens......
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2017 - 11:01am PT
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Howdy Petch. Yall still livin in Strawberry? Are you stil doing cleanups at the leap? I want to start a new volunteer project up there and the lodge. Would like to come to your next one.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2017 - 11:05am PT
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I can see that the politics of this thread have made it uncomfortable for anyone to show interest in my puppies. So if anyone wants further information, please email me at robtrelford@yahoo.com. Trolls please stay away from my email.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Mar 20, 2017 - 11:15am PT
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:-o
It's the OWNER who makes her dogs the way they are. Human responsibilty.
I like these kind of dogs. Purebred on mentally stable lines they're lovely.
Following what you've written, is there anyone on this site who seriously believes I'm a tattooed criminal?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mar 20, 2017 - 12:00pm PT
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Lennox
climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
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Mar 20, 2017 - 02:58pm PT
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Pits are sweet couch potatoes, and they are of at least average intelligence--not the low level of IQ as bulldogs, pugs and beagles.
This is my pit bull / ridgeback mix I got at the Woods Humane shelter in SLO.
And here you can see that vicious, low IQ dog try to bite my face off.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
She's definitely not kid safe, but that's the Ridgeback part of her.
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splitter
Trad climber
HighwayToHell
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Mar 20, 2017 - 03:40pm PT
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What Lollie said +1
There are approximately 500,000 Pit Bulls in American animal shelters.
Furthermore, about 6.5 million companion animals enter U.S. animal shelters nationwide each year.
Approximately 3.3 million are dogs and 3.2 million are cats.
And approximately 1.5 million are euthanized each year (670,000 are dogs and 860,000 are cats).
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Mar 20, 2017 - 03:50pm PT
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Locker: Love yer pup!
A 30 lb. pit sounds like a cool dog. Our dearly departed Django was a border collie/blue heeler mix rescue (dumped on our street) and a great, great animal. Miss him everyday. But as one poster said, owning a dog is a lifestyle change--or at least it should be. They're smart, social animals, and it kills me to see so many left to languish in yards, on chains, killed in "shelters," wherever.
BAd
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 20, 2017 - 06:22pm PT
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It's the OWNER who makes her dogs the way they are. Human responsibilty.
Lollie, I hear where you are coming from, but an owner cannot change the fundamental tendencies of a breed.
This is why police dogs are only a few breeds,
Why shepherds only use a few breeds.
----why fighting pits use only a few breeds.
Perhaps one could train a pit bull to herd sheep, but it would be an uphill battle.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 20, 2017 - 09:07pm PT
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All well and good until one takes a poop in the skin track.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2017 - 08:15pm PT
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Lennox, your dog is beautiful!
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2017 - 08:21pm PT
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As a climber, I deal with the rules of the natural world. Same with flyfishing. My dogs are part of that. People blame my dogs for hurting folks. But the only person my dogs ever bit was the convict who shot at the mail lady. They bit him when I wasnt home and he was tryin to pick their locks to sneak into my property. I was told this by neighbors who saw it.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2017 - 08:14am PT
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If I left Muscleman (Chico) at the bottom of the crag he would be belly up getting loved by anyone who came by. You are not reading this post accurately. My dogs are gentle and non agressive. They look scary to intruders and protect me. But if I left him where people were chillin, theyd be playing together. Yes he bit Nelson, who was tweekin hard fresh out of prison and trying to get in my yard. They know by following my lead that I dont like him. My dogs always follow my lead, starting with the moment They plopped out of Maya (their mother) into my hands.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2017 - 08:16am PT
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Given the amount of hostility youve directed at me, Mr Brennon, my dogs probably wouldnt like you very much. I dont like you either.
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