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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Mar 17, 2017 - 09:29pm PT
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I can see both sides.
we've had purebred boxers and rescue boxers and rescue mixed breed shelter animals in our family for 50 years. Started out with the purebred dogs.
The purebred dogs do give you a personality predictability which may be just what you need for your family situation.
The rescue dogs all required more special attention. Several of them came to us as younger animals who had been through trauma and required lifelong special attention.
We loved them all the same but a rescue or shelter animal is not for everyone.
Maybe it's not the best for him to post here in a climbing forum ...
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 17, 2017 - 09:37pm PT
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And all of that is very much well and good and I can sense your intentions are indeed honorable.
But you must also try to understand that for this audience of suburban middle class mostly white people raised on Wonder Bread and Captain Kangaroo - that the image WE have of your dogs are as being beasts from some scary azz minority hell hole.
Screw that - us white people in the civilized zones think all pit bulls are raised by black or Hispanic gangsters who will kill our pet Yorkies, maul our toddlers, while they guard their crack house or you could be some skinhead Neo-Nazz whose Pit attacks us when we accidentally jog by your illegal grow house.
But they are cute little fookers when they are puppies aren't they?
Non Rascist PSA - Shadow's Fund in Jalama Beach rescues and rehabs pits. Support these peeps - they do good work.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
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Great post RickyD!
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 17, 2017 - 10:35pm PT
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And yet.....you are pushed to advertise them on this site, because there is not enough demand in your neighborhood.
I agree that there are FAR FAR too many pit bulls in the US, and is why they end up in shelters in such numbers.
Switch to Labs, which can be just as protective and intimidating if properly trained, but which are in far greater demand.
But I'm not a dog guy in any case, so I guess I don't need to worry.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 17, 2017 - 10:50pm PT
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So what if he grows dogs.
If he grew venus flytraps you crazy people would start bitching he's hurting flys ......
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John M
climber
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Mar 17, 2017 - 11:28pm PT
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Its the fact that last year 1.5 million cats and dogs were put to sleep in animal shelters. Most because there is no one to take care of them. that doesn't even count the animals that live in the streets. Thats what bothers people, and it should. But that doesn't mean that I don't understand him wanting to raise his own dogs.
Pitbulls are an interesting breed. I had a buddy who raised them. I loved playing with those dogs. then one night I was dog sitting and two of his dogs who were brothers and had up to that night got along great, decided to fight over a young dog my friend had just gotten which went into heat for the first time. It was brutal and took me nearly 20 minutes to break them up. They were trying to kill each other. I had not seen anything like it. The only way that I was able to break them up was when one went for a better hold, I grabbed him and threw him into a different room. These dogs were raised lovingly, and not raised to fight. Plus they had been raised together.
I still enjoyed playing with those dogs, but I never trusted them after that and I have been around a lot of different breeds. From German shepherds to aussies to labs, to poodles.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Mar 18, 2017 - 05:08am PT
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My, such cuties!
I've no dog at the moment. Miss having one, but next one will be a shelter dog. (I only had purebreds before, but decided to go adventurous and wild at heart.) I have my eyes on one special one, which I hope will get a good home, 'cause alas, I work too much, can't get one yet.
(We don't have dogs who live on the street. I have never seen a single one in my entire life here. If there's a loose dog, a lot of people become concerned, catch it and leave the dog to the police.)
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Mar 18, 2017 - 06:04am PT
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I have been thinking about getting a dog for a bit. I really love the larger breeds, like Newfs, St-Bernards and Berners... but my heart breaks at all these poor guys being dumped, abandoned and discarded all over the place. So I would be a hypocrite if I went and spent $$$ on a fancy dog when I could save the life of someone's unwanted leftovers from a rescue or shelter.
Chainsaw: Does California really need more unwanted pit bulls?
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 18, 2017 - 06:17am PT
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dont do it.......
dog will tie you down worse than a kid.....
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Mar 18, 2017 - 06:21am PT
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I already have 2 cats!
Plus doesn't everyone love a crag dog? ;)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 18, 2017 - 06:40am PT
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cats are fine to leave at home when you go climbing. you can even leave cats alone for week and they are fine. dog is like haveing a 3 year old that never grows up.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Mar 18, 2017 - 07:12am PT
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Only one breed of dog kills someone in the US every 14 days.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Mar 18, 2017 - 08:00am PT
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I don't see both sides. I've had nothing but shelter dogs for thirty years. Anyone that breeds pit bulls is an a hole period.
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canyoncat
Social climber
SoCal
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Mar 18, 2017 - 08:23am PT
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I'm not anti-breeder. That said, you are a backyard breeder who is clearly looking to profit, rather than breed for the conformation and health of the breed.
True skilled breeders have years long waiting lists for their litters and do not need to advertise, much less pimp their dogs on a climbing forum basically begging anyone to buy their pups. Why would you even plan a litter if the pups were not presold?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Mar 18, 2017 - 08:39am PT
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I am partial to the black lab. Loyal to a fault and the sight of one sitting on your doorstep will keep the punks out of your property. Once mine leaves the property he becomes super chill and he has had no training.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Mar 18, 2017 - 09:26am PT
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My wife and I are currently looking to rescue a lab pit puppy. I've no hangups about owning a pit, as all I've met are so great.
However, I've been warned that most homeowners insurance policies won't cover you if you own a Pitbull, Rottweiler, or German Sheperd.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Mar 18, 2017 - 09:32am PT
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I have no problem with pitbulls nor do I have a problem with good breeders.
The pounds are filled with lab pit mixes that desperately need your help.
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James Wilcox
Trad climber
Goleta/Virginia Lakes
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Mar 18, 2017 - 09:47am PT
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I dissuade people from shelter animals because of my experience dealing with dogs from the pound.
At this point I tuned out. My shelter dog is the most loyal, friendly, and healthy dog I've ever owned. It's about socialization, not pedigree.
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c wilmot
climber
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Mar 18, 2017 - 11:04am PT
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Pitbulls consistently prove that their owners cannot control them. Mainly because the owners are physically incapable of doing so. Unless you are built like a linebacker, willing to get hurt, and willing to hurt the dog- you are not "controlling" a pit bull on a rampage. You will just be another victim
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