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chainsaw

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CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 16, 2017 - 10:48pm PT
These are a gentler, non-agressive, smaller version of the dogs Ive been breeding for a while. Looking for homes. Adoption fee to cover my costs. You buy shots, I can stickum for you. Leave contact info on this thread if interested.
chainsaw

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CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2017 - 10:50pm PT
chainsaw

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2017 - 10:51pm PT
chainsaw

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CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2017 - 10:56pm PT
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chainsaw

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CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2017 - 10:58pm PT
chainsaw

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chainsaw

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CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2017 - 10:59pm PT
chainsaw

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CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 08:24am PT

Proud parents of seven
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 17, 2017 - 10:35am PT
Very cute puppies! Please don't breed anymore. The shelters are too full!

Adopt.
Adopt.
Adopt.

People. Spay and neuter your pets please!!!!!!
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 01:12pm PT
Labrat, in general I agree that there are too many unwanted pets. But adopting shelter animals is like housing parolees in your home. These are rare blue fawn purebred dogs that I invest alot of time and money in. FBI crime prevention data: dogs are better than alarms and homeowner firearms for protection. Only armed professional security are more effective at deterring prowlers and various dirtbags. Data from Infinity Technologies alarm Co records of FBI recommendations for home and commercial security. Come meet the dogs and you will see why I breed them. I dont overpopulate the world with human babies. Just dogs. It satisfies my procreative nature. I am a person who makes things grow. This litter was bred for people who want dogs from me. Keep up the good fight for rescue of unwanted pets. Meanwhile, if you know someone who wants an awesome healthy premium pet for cheap, please post your info here and I will contact you.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 01:36pm PT
Out here in the Heartland we dont live like urbanites. Out here we breed animals and grow crops. Most folks have no idea what Im talking about. But if you get it come visit me. Ive got alotta room out here. Check out my muscleman. I live in tweekerville yet my property gets total respect. When I caught a looter on my property during the flood evacuation of Sutter County, I took his pic with my phone. The dude immediately got fiesty with me. So I let my dogs go in the yard and went inside. The thug will not be coming back!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 17, 2017 - 01:38pm PT
A shelter dog will be a loyal friend through thick and thin. Shelters are full of pit bulls. If people really wanted your dogs you would not be posting up here. Entertain us by telling us what your "costs" are
Mei

Trad climber
mxi2000.net
Mar 17, 2017 - 01:40pm PT
FBI crime prevention data: dogs are better than alarms and homeowner firearms for protection. Only armed professional security are more effective at deterring prowlers and various dirtbags. Data from Infinity Technologies alarm Co records of FBI recommendations for home and commercial security. Come meet the dogs and you will see why I breed them.


Oh no!!! Fear has been used effectively in politics, but please, it should not be a reason for a family to buy a puppy. And I have no doubt you care about the dogs that you sell, so that's a dangerous sales pitch. Some people get a dog just to guard their property, and when their life circumstances change (e.g. moving), guess what, they abandon the dog!

I'm sure if I go meet your puppies, I would want one for myself! That's also how I feel when I go and meet those abandoned dogs (and cats) in shelters. Those innocent little animals do have a way to grab one's heart.

but our next one will probably be an older, sweet, hard to adopt pit bull that would want to spend its remaining years having its ears stroked.

Dirtbag, you sure are a soft one!
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 17, 2017 - 01:52pm PT
Ever since I mortally wounded the pit bull mauling my neighbor's 3 year old daughter, I've had a great dislike for the breed.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 02:08pm PT
I hear where yall are coming from. Out here in the cuts I face routine threats from many dirtbags, tweekers, thieves, prostitutes, drug dealers..... In the cut is where that shyt is happening. Without my dogs I would get robbed when I go to work. Folks lay around drinkin forties waitin tuh score in the cuts. You have to protect yourself out here. And I dont mind that. I dont need or want cops or government to protect me. Ive got it down!
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 17, 2017 - 04:54pm PT
"But adopting shelter animals is like housing parolees in your home."

Wish us luck then. We will be visiting some shelters this weekend.

" I dont overpopulate the world with human babies. Just dogs. It satisfies my procreative nature. I am a person who makes things grow."

Grow tomatoes instead of dogs! ;-)
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Mar 17, 2017 - 07:48pm PT
These are a gentler, non-agressive, smaller version of the dogs Ive been breeding for a while.
That's what Dr. Frankenstein said.
Yury

Mountain climber
T.O.
Mar 17, 2017 - 08:02pm PT
Chainsaw, why have you failed to sell your rare pure bred pups through your usual channels?
Your story just doesn't make sense.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 09:06pm PT
These dogs are only barely old enough to sell or adopt. I guarantee you, the ones that arent already spoken for will sell pretty quick. Today was my first day advertising. Pitbulls are like horses. Highstrung Thoroughbred show and racehorses will bite and trample people. So do goats. My dogs are powerful and potentially dangerous if abused or neglected, just like guns or dope or horses or many other things. It is the owners responsibility to train them well and to be in control of them always. Many kids get hurt playing with their parents firearms. And alot of people get shot by their own guns. All powerful things can be dangerous. There are no guns in my house because I dont need them. Noone will ever steal my dogs when Im not home. And they pull me down the street on a longboard. I have a waterski handle on 20 feet of rope that harnesses to both dogs at once. These dogs are strong and good teamworkers. We go rippin around the neighborhood at almost 20mph.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 09:26pm PT
I dissuade people from shelter animals because of my experience dealing with dogs from the pound. If I want a pet or protector, Im not interested in doing what YOU think is politically correct. Im not out to save the world and I dont give any consideration to some PC mantra about what I should do or how I live. One of my breeder friends just flew to Denver to purchase a dog. She could have adopted. But thats not what we are about. I had the pleasure of grooming, lunging and leading her prize stallion "Cinibar's Tradition" from the showring at Plymouth with Championship ribbons. My Aunt had nineteen of her own horses and 36 stalls in her barn. Grand Prix Hunter Jumpers, Quarter Horses and Thoroughbreds. All Champions. Her Dogs were all bred to order. We are very good at what we do. Thats not to say you shouldnt adopt a stray dog. But if you want the best breed with good temperment and show qualities and good health, a good breeder is the best place to go. Incidentally, dogs that people buy for $$ from breeders are rarely abandoned. People went out of their way to purchase those specific particular dogs for their own personal reasons. When something has value, it is usually well cared for. When its free, it may be taken for granted or wasted. I understand your sentiments about adoption. Its really noble. But thats not for me. We all end up getting eaten by worms and bugs in the end. The cycle of Karma comes around eventually. If Im gonna pay that price for life, why should I feel guilty about living it how I want?
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Mar 17, 2017 - 09:29pm PT
I can see both sides.
we've had purebred boxers and rescue boxers and rescue mixed breed shelter animals in our family for 50 years. Started out with the purebred dogs.
The purebred dogs do give you a personality predictability which may be just what you need for your family situation.
The rescue dogs all required more special attention. Several of them came to us as younger animals who had been through trauma and required lifelong special attention.
We loved them all the same but a rescue or shelter animal is not for everyone.
Maybe it's not the best for him to post here in a climbing forum ...
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Mar 17, 2017 - 09:37pm PT
And all of that is very much well and good and I can sense your intentions are indeed honorable.

But you must also try to understand that for this audience of suburban middle class mostly white people raised on Wonder Bread and Captain Kangaroo - that the image WE have of your dogs are as being beasts from some scary azz minority hell hole.

Screw that - us white people in the civilized zones think all pit bulls are raised by black or Hispanic gangsters who will kill our pet Yorkies, maul our toddlers, while they guard their crack house or you could be some skinhead Neo-Nazz whose Pit attacks us when we accidentally jog by your illegal grow house.

But they are cute little fookers when they are puppies aren't they?


Non Rascist PSA - Shadow's Fund in Jalama Beach rescues and rehabs pits. Support these peeps - they do good work.








chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
Great post RickyD!
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 17, 2017 - 10:35pm PT
And yet.....you are pushed to advertise them on this site, because there is not enough demand in your neighborhood.

I agree that there are FAR FAR too many pit bulls in the US, and is why they end up in shelters in such numbers.

Switch to Labs, which can be just as protective and intimidating if properly trained, but which are in far greater demand.

But I'm not a dog guy in any case, so I guess I don't need to worry.
WBraun

climber
Mar 17, 2017 - 10:50pm PT
So what if he grows dogs.

If he grew venus flytraps you crazy people would start bitching he's hurting flys ......
John M

climber
Mar 17, 2017 - 11:28pm PT
Its the fact that last year 1.5 million cats and dogs were put to sleep in animal shelters. Most because there is no one to take care of them. that doesn't even count the animals that live in the streets. Thats what bothers people, and it should. But that doesn't mean that I don't understand him wanting to raise his own dogs.

Pitbulls are an interesting breed. I had a buddy who raised them. I loved playing with those dogs. then one night I was dog sitting and two of his dogs who were brothers and had up to that night got along great, decided to fight over a young dog my friend had just gotten which went into heat for the first time. It was brutal and took me nearly 20 minutes to break them up. They were trying to kill each other. I had not seen anything like it. The only way that I was able to break them up was when one went for a better hold, I grabbed him and threw him into a different room. These dogs were raised lovingly, and not raised to fight. Plus they had been raised together.

I still enjoyed playing with those dogs, but I never trusted them after that and I have been around a lot of different breeds. From German shepherds to aussies to labs, to poodles.
Lollie

Social climber
I'm Lolli.
Mar 18, 2017 - 05:08am PT
My, such cuties!

I've no dog at the moment. Miss having one, but next one will be a shelter dog. (I only had purebreds before, but decided to go adventurous and wild at heart.) I have my eyes on one special one, which I hope will get a good home, 'cause alas, I work too much, can't get one yet.

(We don't have dogs who live on the street. I have never seen a single one in my entire life here. If there's a loose dog, a lot of people become concerned, catch it and leave the dog to the police.)
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Mar 18, 2017 - 06:04am PT
I have been thinking about getting a dog for a bit. I really love the larger breeds, like Newfs, St-Bernards and Berners... but my heart breaks at all these poor guys being dumped, abandoned and discarded all over the place. So I would be a hypocrite if I went and spent $$$ on a fancy dog when I could save the life of someone's unwanted leftovers from a rescue or shelter.

Chainsaw: Does California really need more unwanted pit bulls?
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 18, 2017 - 06:17am PT
dont do it.......
dog will tie you down worse than a kid.....
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Mar 18, 2017 - 06:21am PT
I already have 2 cats!
Plus doesn't everyone love a crag dog? ;)
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 18, 2017 - 06:40am PT
cats are fine to leave at home when you go climbing. you can even leave cats alone for week and they are fine. dog is like haveing a 3 year old that never grows up.
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Mar 18, 2017 - 07:12am PT
Only one breed of dog kills someone in the US every 14 days.
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Mar 18, 2017 - 08:00am PT
I don't see both sides. I've had nothing but shelter dogs for thirty years. Anyone that breeds pit bulls is an a hole period.
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Mar 18, 2017 - 08:23am PT
I'm not anti-breeder. That said, you are a backyard breeder who is clearly looking to profit, rather than breed for the conformation and health of the breed.

True skilled breeders have years long waiting lists for their litters and do not need to advertise, much less pimp their dogs on a climbing forum basically begging anyone to buy their pups. Why would you even plan a litter if the pups were not presold?

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 18, 2017 - 08:39am PT
I am partial to the black lab. Loyal to a fault and the sight of one sitting on your doorstep will keep the punks out of your property. Once mine leaves the property he becomes super chill and he has had no training.
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Mar 18, 2017 - 09:13am PT
All your questions can be answered here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KtzdP7mR-4
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 18, 2017 - 09:26am PT
My wife and I are currently looking to rescue a lab pit puppy. I've no hangups about owning a pit, as all I've met are so great.

However, I've been warned that most homeowners insurance policies won't cover you if you own a Pitbull, Rottweiler, or German Sheperd.
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Mar 18, 2017 - 09:32am PT
I have no problem with pitbulls nor do I have a problem with good breeders.

The pounds are filled with lab pit mixes that desperately need your help.
James Wilcox

Trad climber
Goleta/Virginia Lakes
Mar 18, 2017 - 09:47am PT
I dissuade people from shelter animals because of my experience dealing with dogs from the pound.

At this point I tuned out. My shelter dog is the most loyal, friendly, and healthy dog I've ever owned. It's about socialization, not pedigree.
c wilmot

climber
Mar 18, 2017 - 11:04am PT
Pitbulls consistently prove that their owners cannot control them. Mainly because the owners are physically incapable of doing so. Unless you are built like a linebacker, willing to get hurt, and willing to hurt the dog- you are not "controlling" a pit bull on a rampage. You will just be another victim
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Mar 18, 2017 - 12:11pm PT
Any AKC or UKC bloodlines in them?

Show us the mom and pop
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 18, 2017 - 01:22pm PT
Wilmot, It's unfair to bunch Pitbulls into one group, they'd all kill each other.

Just joking. Seriously though, I don't think I've ever met an aggressive Pit that I didn't expect to be aggressive.

My friends have full Pit's and they are big babies, just want to roll on their backs and be tussled.

I know that the mean ones exist, but that's due solely to the fact that that many people have dogs for the wrong reasons. Any dog can be a great, well behaved dog with the right human.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 18, 2017 - 01:22pm PT
I was profoundly impressed by this NATURE program, in which they took two dogs that were scheduled for execution, and turned them over to professional trainers, for an astonishingly short time, like a couple of months.

In one case, the dog was sold to a police department as a well-trained cadaver dog.

In the other case, the dog competed in advanced Sheep Dog Trials.

It was astonishing what they were able to do, under the training of a professional.

Holly, an 85-pound bloodhound, chewed everything in sight and by the time she was 10 months old, had been removed from six different homes. She was languishing in a shelter, with her days numbered, until professional dog trainer Larry Allen intervened. Having trained countless bloodhounds for law enforcement agencies across the United States, Allen sets out to help Holly harness her natural abilities as a tracker in the hope that one day she would become a competent police dog.

Herbie, a two-year-old bearded collie, couldn’t rein in his impish personality or his penchant for attacking livestock. His errant ways had put him at risk of being shot by a local farmer. Fortunately, sheepdog trainer Barbara Sykes sensed Herbie was more than just a marauder. In her gentle yet firm manner, she coaches him hoping to hone his skills to herd rather than bite sheep on her working farm in England.

Beginning with the initial meeting between dog and trainer, viewers follow Sykes and Allen as they apply their professional skills to transform these misfit mutts into the noble working dogs they were bred to be. As their stories unfold, we witness the powerful bond that develops between trainer and pupil.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/underdogs-introduction/352/
James Wilcox

Trad climber
Goleta/Virginia Lakes
Mar 18, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
If you get a dog and lock it up in your backyard alone for 12 hours a day without any interaction your gonna have a problem dog. Some dogs will chew everything in sight, some get mean, some just get morose. But whatever the end result, it's usually not good.
And breeders like the OP is the main reason why shelters have an abundant supply of dogs, imo.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Mar 18, 2017 - 02:42pm PT
So how did Pits get to be the incarnation of rampage and spontaneous horror?

At one time they were considered the perfect family dog. Petey from the old Our Gang Little Rascals was a pit as was the Buster Brown shoe dog.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 18, 2017 - 02:50pm PT
they started eating little kids and the occasional adult.

there are too many people and too many pets in the world. we can't really do anything about the overpopulation of people but we certainly can stop breeding dogs...
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Mar 18, 2017 - 03:04pm PT
So how did Pits get to be the incarnation of rampage and spontaneous horror?

Statistics.

Pitbulls cause more human deaths than all other breeds combined. That is a fact. Yet they only represent about 5% of pets. If it were simply a training/handler issue those numbers wouldn’t be so skewed, breed is the only other variable that can explain the statistics. German shepherds and Rottweilers, the other two breeds which regularly cause human deaths don’t have the same rates of carnage, despite being more prevalent as pets. Is it because they have better training/handlers or due to the breed? Using a bit of logic applied to the number of animals vs damage, it comes down to one of two options, A) Breed matters or B) Pitbull owners are an order of magnitude worse at training/handling their dogs.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 18, 2017 - 03:20pm PT
Pit bulls are a plague.

Pit bulls make up 6% of the dog population, but they're responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982


pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 18, 2017 - 03:33pm PT
Locker you don't know shitt
You spout off on every thread like you actually have something of value to offer.

I've been attacked by pit bulls twice and killed one (euthanized due to injuries received) that was mauling a little girl in front of me. These dogs are a menace.
You can't always blame the owners for their aggressive and unpredictable behavior.
Genetically, this breed has something seriously wrong.

lightninglycett

climber
Mar 18, 2017 - 04:12pm PT
seriously?!? your breeding pitbulls?? have you been to a shelter lately?
p.s. they are all gentle and kind
c wilmot

climber
Mar 18, 2017 - 04:59pm PT
Generally the average pit owner I see is a young guy with tats, shaved head, short sleeve, and dark shades strutting as his cowering pit gets dragged along.
It's not so much a stereotype as it is just a fact of life. Kind of like how a guy with a giant "redneck" sticker on his vehicle tends to be driving an obnoxious jacked up truck
It's an ego thing... a defense mechanism for insecure people (the d#@&%ey guys not the responsible owners)

Unfortunetely they give the good pit owners a bad rep by association
east side underground

climber
paul linaweaver hilton crk ca
Mar 18, 2017 - 05:06pm PT
border collies rule......what puppy isnt cute
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 18, 2017 - 05:18pm PT
My own rat terrier bit me, however they (like Jack Russells) only snap, they do not clamp down and rag doll you like some other breeds do.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2017 - 11:08pm PT
As I mentioned before, these dogs are much smaller and less agressive than most pitbulls. I can pick both up at the same time. They only weigh about thirty pounds at adulthood. There is a picture of mom and pop at the start of this post but per your request, heres Chico and Teedub again.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Mar 18, 2017 - 11:15pm PT
Did you bite your canine harder, to prove who was in charge of the motobike ?

Well now that you mention it O'Pompous One, I have trained many of my rescue mutts in the fine art of hierarchy by biting them in the throat.

Never in a painful or hurtful manner, more like a firm toothy grab across the trachea and a deep primal growl just until you feel their tension acquiesce.

Usually only takes this one lesson to decide who among us will be the Chief Muthaf*#ker What's In Charge.

Doctor Doolittle had it nailed when he said "talk like the animals".
Tom Patterson

Trad climber
Seattle
Mar 19, 2017 - 05:02am PT
I am also of two minds on pit bulls. We've got two pit bull mixes that are as loving and gentle as two dogs can be. No problems ever, and we are quite sure they'll never be a threat to anyone--child or adult. Both are from no-kill shelters, and that's where we imagine we'll always look first. Our local shelter does a beautiful job of caring for animals, and they definitely aren't in it for the pay or the percs.

On the other hand, I've encountered enough pit bulls in my life that fit the stereotype to make me cautious. I've read quite a bit about them, I know many of them, and still am not totally confident that it's always just a matter of how they are raised. I've been in fear for my life, and the life of my family, on a couple of occasions, given the clear intent of some of these dogs--and I'm not a person who has a fear of dogs. If their owners didn't come out at the last second and pull them back, I'm pretty sure what would've happened. The worst was just this past summer at a campground on the Oregon Coast--where leashes were required, but weren't used with two incredibly scary pits who came at us full gallop (spiked collars, and all).

I'm also a little confused by the OP. If the sales pitch is one part "these little guys are the cutest ever," and one part, "these guys will scare the crap out of tweekers entering your property," what's the actual story here?

Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 19, 2017 - 05:11am PT



jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Mar 19, 2017 - 08:27am PT
Stupid people forget about Spaying and Neutering their pets all the time.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2017 - 09:43am PT
Hey Flip Flop, the gunny sak and brick reply is way outa line. You dont know me and you dont know my animals. I should have expected clowns here to politicize this thread. Even suggesting that I kill my dogs is belligerent, ignorant and cruel. Tie that brick around your little scrode with that sack and take a big fall on a static line while youre at it.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 19, 2017 - 09:51am PT
Lighten up Francis. The fact remains that dog breeders are responsible for unwanted dogs, not jokers like me. Own it, mr self righteous.
John M

climber
Mar 19, 2017 - 10:01am PT
ighten up Francis. The fact remains that dog breeders are responsible for unwanted dogs, not jokers like me. Own it, mr self righteous.

come on Flip Flop.. you are free to have your opinion, but what you posted was just mean. How you express you opinion says as much about you as what another person does.

I tend to agree that we don't need to keep breeding dogs. There are certainly too many. But I also understand the desire and I don't believe its all on one person. If you have a dog, then that animal is your responsibility until its death. And dumping it at a shelter does not absolve you of that responsibility.

This would go against all the people who believe in no rules, but maybe we as a society should institute some kind of social rule that tells people who want to breed that they have to also contribute funds to a no kill shelter.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 19, 2017 - 10:03am PT
Come on chainsaw, how much are they selling for?
Petch

Gym climber
knapsack crack
Mar 19, 2017 - 12:10pm PT

Once you go Poodle, you don't go back!
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 19, 2017 - 01:02pm PT
The gunny sack and cinder block isn't for the dogs
Man y'all are sensitive for a bunch of tough guys
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Mar 19, 2017 - 01:13pm PT
One of the lowest IQ breeds ever.
jstan

climber
Mar 19, 2017 - 03:00pm PT
Earlier the logic was advanced that we should accept the low probability of being injured by a neighbor's pet, because automobile accidents are more frequent. Relative frequencies are irrelevant. There is no reason for me to accept risk due to another's pet. We accept automobile risks because there is often no alternative.

When I was small our family had a dog that got into the neighbor's chicken coop. Carrying his 12 gauge our father walked us down to the back lot with the dog. Saying "once a dog has gotten into a chicken coop there is no recourse," He shot the dog saying "Now bury him." The three of us got a lesson in responsibility. Those who have a pet also have the responsibility for controlling that pet. I also think that responsibility cannot be shucked off onto an animal shelter. When one takes on a pet, it needs to be done with full knowledge of the responsibility one is undertaking.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 19, 2017 - 03:09pm PT
Farmers are tough. My dad had a few tough draconian lessons to teach as well. He was a farmer and an Episcopal minister. All I can say is god help you if you mess with the lords Corn, Cabbage or chickens......
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2017 - 11:01am PT
Howdy Petch. Yall still livin in Strawberry? Are you stil doing cleanups at the leap? I want to start a new volunteer project up there and the lodge. Would like to come to your next one.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2017 - 11:05am PT
I can see that the politics of this thread have made it uncomfortable for anyone to show interest in my puppies. So if anyone wants further information, please email me at robtrelford@yahoo.com. Trolls please stay away from my email.
Lollie

Social climber
I'm Lolli.
Mar 20, 2017 - 11:15am PT
:-o

It's the OWNER who makes her dogs the way they are. Human responsibilty.

I like these kind of dogs. Purebred on mentally stable lines they're lovely.
Following what you've written, is there anyone on this site who seriously believes I'm a tattooed criminal?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 20, 2017 - 12:00pm PT
Lennox

climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
Mar 20, 2017 - 02:58pm PT
Pits are sweet couch potatoes, and they are of at least average intelligence--not the low level of IQ as bulldogs, pugs and beagles.

This is my pit bull / ridgeback mix I got at the Woods Humane shelter in SLO.




And here you can see that vicious, low IQ dog try to bite my face off.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

She's definitely not kid safe, but that's the Ridgeback part of her.
splitter

Trad climber
HighwayToHell
Mar 20, 2017 - 03:40pm PT
What Lollie said +1

There are approximately 500,000 Pit Bulls in American animal shelters.

Furthermore, about 6.5 million companion animals enter U.S. animal shelters nationwide each year.

Approximately 3.3 million are dogs and 3.2 million are cats.

And approximately 1.5 million are euthanized each year (670,000 are dogs and 860,000 are cats).
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Mar 20, 2017 - 03:50pm PT
Locker: Love yer pup!

A 30 lb. pit sounds like a cool dog. Our dearly departed Django was a border collie/blue heeler mix rescue (dumped on our street) and a great, great animal. Miss him everyday. But as one poster said, owning a dog is a lifestyle change--or at least it should be. They're smart, social animals, and it kills me to see so many left to languish in yards, on chains, killed in "shelters," wherever.

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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 20, 2017 - 06:22pm PT
It's the OWNER who makes her dogs the way they are. Human responsibilty.

Lollie, I hear where you are coming from, but an owner cannot change the fundamental tendencies of a breed.

This is why police dogs are only a few breeds,

Why shepherds only use a few breeds.

----why fighting pits use only a few breeds.

Perhaps one could train a pit bull to herd sheep, but it would be an uphill battle.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Mar 20, 2017 - 09:07pm PT
All well and good until one takes a poop in the skin track.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2017 - 08:15pm PT
Lennox, your dog is beautiful!
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2017 - 08:21pm PT
As a climber, I deal with the rules of the natural world. Same with flyfishing. My dogs are part of that. People blame my dogs for hurting folks. But the only person my dogs ever bit was the convict who shot at the mail lady. They bit him when I wasnt home and he was tryin to pick their locks to sneak into my property. I was told this by neighbors who saw it.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2017 - 08:14am PT
If I left Muscleman (Chico) at the bottom of the crag he would be belly up getting loved by anyone who came by. You are not reading this post accurately. My dogs are gentle and non agressive. They look scary to intruders and protect me. But if I left him where people were chillin, theyd be playing together. Yes he bit Nelson, who was tweekin hard fresh out of prison and trying to get in my yard. They know by following my lead that I dont like him. My dogs always follow my lead, starting with the moment They plopped out of Maya (their mother) into my hands.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2017 - 08:16am PT
Given the amount of hostility youve directed at me, Mr Brennon, my dogs probably wouldnt like you very much. I dont like you either.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2017 - 08:30am PT
Proposition 47 etc cetra decriminalized up to 7grams of meth (140 doses) and theft under $1000. I have spoken at length with Sutter Co Sherrifs about that. We unanimously agree that it has led to an unprecedented wave of violence and burglary in our county by drug addicts and thieves out here. Nelson, the violent three time looser now gets released everytime he gets caught going crazy. He roughed up his girlfriend three days ago for the sixth time when he ran out of dope. He tried to smash the patrol car windows with his head as they were hauling him back to mental health. He should do two years for violating probation for the sixth time. But under Jerry Browns new policy, he will be dumped back into our community in three to ten days. Eventually he will probably kill someone. Now ashholes are slinging dope everywhere and stealing or shoplifting all over town. Thats what liberal policy and ignorant "progressives" have caused. The need for home security here has never been greater. I will keep breeding my dogs, thankyou. You libtards keep on turning the world upside down. I plan to stay upright.
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Mar 22, 2017 - 08:45am PT
You're the one choosing to live in a house in tweakerville. That's like making a living on the pole and bitching how dollar bills scratch your buns.
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Mar 22, 2017 - 09:17am PT
not the low level of IQ as bulldogs, pugs and beagles.
lennox did you just call my beagle dumb?
Smartest sweetest boy ever. !4 years old going on 3. Could live to 20!
Has the world at his beck and call.
jamatt

Social climber
Asheville, NC
Mar 22, 2017 - 10:11am PT
Ditto on the disagree re: beagles being dumb. Strong willed, yes, distractable, yes, but dumb, no.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 22, 2017 - 10:59am PT
If you like doggies check out Netflix' 'Martin Clunes-A Man And His Dogs'. That's right, Doc
Martin is a real pushover for anything furry, but especially dogs and horses.
jamatt

Social climber
Asheville, NC
Mar 22, 2017 - 11:11am PT
Locker you idiot that's a beagle/TWC. Quit smoking your old hemp climbing ropes. Or maybe you're smoking goldline. That would explain more.
AKDOG

Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
Mar 22, 2017 - 01:23pm PT

My dangerous Pit mix, getting ready to attack some powder
Got to admit; as far as dog go, she is not the smartest on the block, but she is loyal to a fault.
Lennox

climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
Mar 22, 2017 - 02:54pm PT
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Intelligence_of_Dogs

I had a beagle, Tessa, when I was young; she was smart when it came to sniffing out food.

Our current pit bull / ridgeback mix, Hanna, is able to learn new tricks very quickly.

Our yellow lab, Whitney, who died a couple months before we got Hanna in 2015, watched a lot of tv--I used to let her run loose in the nearby park, but I had to stop because she was getting too good at stalking squirrels after having watched too many Nat Geo lions.

Whitney watching hyraxes:

[Click to View YouTube Video]
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 23, 2017 - 03:19am PT
that is the big myth with dog people. they think they are in control. Not the case. who picks up whos sh#t. who has to pay the rent,food, vet bills etc. you are simply a slave to the dog.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Mar 23, 2017 - 06:24am PT
Yeah, Tradman, you got a point. But if you loves the dogs, it's a price worth paying. I'm looking forward to some freedom for sure, but the last 13 years with our beloved Django were some great times. No regrets.

RIP Dj!



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Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Mar 23, 2017 - 08:21am PT
Can they be used as avalanche poodles?

James Wilcox

Trad climber
Goleta/Virginia Lakes
Mar 23, 2017 - 09:20am PT
Nice set up Lennox, looks like our yard.

My significant other in competition:
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Mar 23, 2017 - 09:35am PT
well Lennox luckily my other god i mean dog is a brittany. he at least comes in 19th on your list.
He runs agility with my wife too; what is it about ladies and agility?

But yeah, the beagle is pretty low down on that list.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Mar 23, 2017 - 10:16am PT
A great shot, James!

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chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2017 - 08:17am PT
Canyoncat, its not a choice where to live anymore. Prop 47 and prison realignment are the law all over California. What is happening here is happening everywhere. You will understand when addicts in your town break into your home or vehicle.
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Mar 24, 2017 - 10:48am PT
Son please, I live in a gated community a few blocks from the ocean. Crime is practically non existent in my neighborhood. The average age is a damn old 78. I don't even bother to lock the door when I go to the grocery store because none of those geezers could even lift a 65" flat screen TV. LOL. The few bicycles reported as "stolen" turn up a few houses over because Mr. Rogers was so senile he forgot where he left it. It's been that way since 1962 and I don't see it changing any time soon.

chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2017 - 01:41pm PT
So while you bask in the 1% enclave of wealthy retirees, the rest of us should do as you say? Thats absurd. When property taxes rise in California to pay our $800,000,000.00 debt you may find yourself living in a trailer.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Mar 24, 2017 - 03:00pm PT
Hey, Chainsaw, don't go dissin' trailers! My wife and I are moving into one in a couple of months--double-wide heaven! Heh. Best of luck selling those beautiful pups. A 30 lb. pit sound awesome.

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Bruce Morris

Trad climber
Belmont, California
Mar 24, 2017 - 08:30pm PT
I need a big 95 lb+ brindle Pitty who gets into fights all over the neighborhood. A companion that augments my geriatric image. Your Pitty-lite puppies just don't fit in with the new me . . . .
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2017 - 04:46pm PT
My long term goal in life is to live in a trailer. Im sick of being a slave to rent, mortgage, taxes, UGH!
jstan

climber
Mar 25, 2017 - 05:53pm PT
My suggestion:
1. Develop a skill people will pay you for
2. Work like a fiend
3. Save every dollar you can
4. Then pay cash for a place to live.

You will still have to earn money for food and to pay R/E taxes.

To my knowledge that's as good as it gets.

That's precisely what your dogs are doing.

Learn from them.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2017 - 10:04am PT
Jstan, that's exactly what I do. I just wish I wasn't paying rent. With the median home price in Cali hovering around $500,000 for a cardboard house with no land, it's pretty discouraging. I bought land but its in Bear Valley near ski area. Good investment, but expensive to build for snowload. I plan to retire there if I can afford it someday. Sold two dogs yesterday. Thanks for the good advice.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 30, 2017 - 03:12am PT
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dog-owner-fatally-mauled-by-staffordshire-bull-terrier-while-he-was-being-interviewed-for-bbc-documentary-074925727.html
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 30, 2017 - 03:37am PT
Trailer wannabe pit bull breeder. Lol. You must have some really original tattoos.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2017 - 09:30am PT
Flip Flop, I dont have tattoos. I gave myself a tattoo when I was 13. Used india ink and a sewing needle. It wore off by the time I was a freshman in college. Back in the 70s when everyone wore high socks I could hide that shyt. But my mother saw it when I was wearing flip flops and flipped out. She didnt believe me when I said I did it myself. She was on a witchhunt to find out whole put it on me. Im glad I dont have Van Halen's logo on my calf anymore. As for being a "trailer wannabe," I long for a simpler life. After fifteen years of teaching everything from microbiology to ninth grade English, Im tired of working so hard. I started a very successful 501(c)3 access fund group and teach climbing to kids with ASD. Your presumptions about me are as unfounded as they are ridiculous, hurtful and insensitive. You would probably like my dogs. All my liberal Davis friends do. They are not nearly as predatory as you seem to be. Perhaps you should get an Arian Brotherhood tattoo on your neck "exclusive" Thats what they wear and thats what you are.
Mei

Trad climber
mxi2000.net
Mar 31, 2017 - 04:27pm PT
chainsaw, while I'm very pro animal adoption and anti breeding, and while I'm very anti-Trump, which I believe you are not, I'm very impressed with your responses throughout this thread. Not your stance on issues, but your respectful tone overall despite the difficult position you put yourself in.

Flip Flop... Your presumptions about me are as unfounded as they are ridiculous, hurtful and insensitive. You would probably like my dogs. All my liberal Davis friends do. They are not nearly as predatory as you seem to be.

I don't know if FF is liberal or not, and I don't care. Judging by a couple of recent threads, he just seems to hate animals, in a creepy way.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Apr 9, 2017 - 07:58am PT
Nope and nope.
I never blame the animals.
It's the irresponsible owners that chap my hide.

1. Wants to live in trailer. Check
2. Irresponsibly breeding fighting dogs. Check
3. Unique tattoo(story, at least). Check

Those Arian dudes are your friends, not mine. I don't tolerate dipshits.
Talk amongst yourselves.
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