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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 20, 2017 - 10:29pm PT
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Tough crowd, even when they're dispensing wisdom.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 21, 2017 - 01:55am PT
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Yes, I have read your responses and there is not a shred of falsehood about them. you have me nailed. I like the BVB one about barren fields.
It is about my inability to get my head out of my arse.
For now it is best that I leave the keyboard, walk on the beach more than I do, bicycle and...
I have a saying posted above my desk. I look at it but do I follow it?
"There are times when my greatest accomplishment is just keeping my mouth shut."
And replace mouth with keyboard. I am my own worst enemy. That is my biggest failing, and the slap in the face by fellow climbers, fellow Taco Standers, is much needed.
Now it is up to me. Apologies if I have been a broken record, seriously and sincerely.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Feb 21, 2017 - 02:54am PT
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Mr. E's syndrome - isolation, quarantine, spiritual renewal through a retreat, hibernation, these are the most generally accepted methods of treatment.
Sometimes talking just doesn't do any good.
You've always had my sympathy, Patrick.
We cannot tell you what to do.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feb 21, 2017 - 03:54am PT
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First, insults are the mana of any internet forum and over the hill and used to be climbers have proved to be no exception, so don't get wigged out about being accused of seving up a few.
Second, Russ is correct, although notably harsh, in his assertion that your posts are sounding like a broken record.
Third, my advice to you is to cut your losses. You have made it abundantly clear that you have been loyal to a fault and have done everything that you can regarding your partner. There is nothing more that you can do, shed your rain gear and set sail back to sunny California.....and good luck!
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Feb 21, 2017 - 06:15am PT
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HEY COSMIC
Quit being such a f ucking a sshole.
Just go away already.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 21, 2017 - 06:37am PT
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Not dyrected at anyone in particular but we all live in glass houses so don't wipe with rocks...
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Feb 21, 2017 - 07:36am PT
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Jim should start a climbing life advice column. Call it, I don't know, maybe something like Dear Donini.
Already hear his standard answer
"you're over the hill. It's all downhill from here. Cut your losses, cut your rope, join the spirit world. Oh, wait a second I'm an atheist. No matter".
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 21, 2017 - 07:49am PT
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"Tough crowd" as Reilly said. Some people are just acting like soulless as#@&%es.
Patrick at least is trying to be honest about his struggles. You know what it's like to struggle, and be in pain, right? Just because you act differently with your pain doesn't make someone else's less real.
Patrick, when I screw up and type things I shouldn't, I try to just get away and leave that thread like the plague for awhile and hope that it goes away.
We all make mistakes, including the many holier than thou people around here.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Feb 21, 2017 - 08:28am PT
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Complex Regional Pain Syndrome
From the 2nd post in this thread of death...
We knew someone who had the 2nd version of this syndrome and was triggered by a bad burn on the left arm. However, the pain manifested on the right arm and right leg two weeks after the burn accident. It took almost a year to get the correct diagnosis. Go figure that one out. It got so bad that this person considered amputation of the leg at one point.
However, this pain stopped almost overnight for unexplained reasons. In one week it went from disabling pain to sunburn kind of pain, which still exists today. It took about three years (?) to become manageable. No one could point to a specific reason but many treatments were attempted including an continuous IV of some concoction which I think might have been some light form of chemotherapy. Acupuncture was used and provided some relief.
Best wishes.
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John M
climber
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Feb 21, 2017 - 08:37am PT
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It wasn't the talk about struggles that irritated people. It was the Holier then thou attitude. Its now deleted, but he posted that he didn't ever insult others, and then slammed a few people for their political stance and for how they insult people. He got called on it and now he has back edited.
Patrick sometimes posts like a dry drunk. All in his cups and morose and acting like he does nothing wrong, and its all everyone else's fault. Most of us probably know a drunk just like that. Sometimes it gets old and we wish the person would find a better way to be. Then he tosses out the all or nothing attitude, and that is also part of the problem.
And yes, lots of people on this forum have shared their struggles, including me. Its not the struggle or the sharing that is a problem. Its how you do it.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Feb 21, 2017 - 09:13am PT
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A more appropriate question would be "Who DOESN'T struggle
A few,
Robert
Blitzo
Coz
Raleigh
Mork
Etc, etc, etc
Least ur still alive dude, to struggle! Soon as you stop pushin your limits, you may as well start pushin up daisies. Lest you can teach. Now get out there and send, Patrick!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Feb 21, 2017 - 09:59am PT
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Hi Patrick!
Tough crowd...but you're tough too!
Sometimes it's one day at a time, other days, one hour at a time.
You'll get there
Susan
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Feb 21, 2017 - 10:13am PT
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Who struggles here?"...
Ever seen me climb???...
;-)
I was thinking the same thing.
Patrick... sorry your having a hard time.
Remember back in good old C4, around the campfire?
If somebody took a dig at you, the worst thing you could do was to try and defend yourself.
Better to just smile and laugh it off.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Feb 21, 2017 - 12:15pm PT
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HEY COSMIC
Quit being such a f ucking a sshole.
Just go away already.
Seriously.
What's your problem, Cosmic? Like kicking people when they're down? Treat others how you want to be treated.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 21, 2017 - 12:16pm PT
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Actually a climbing forum doesn't seem the best place to get any sympathy on your situation or a million others. I am sure there are mental health clinics in Ireland. Use one and come back here and tell us how you went climbing as a way to make your situation better and I bet you will get a better response.
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