Armed Militia Takes Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge HQ

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couchmaster

climber
Nov 2, 2016 - 12:49pm PT


^^bullshit (for me) Jody^^ we had a local woman (black girl) jump from the back seat to the front seat and try driving away from a local officer during a stop and she got no sympathy from me when she was shot for being stupid. None. It was 2am and the officer was alone. She's dead and I'm grateful that the cop did the right thing. Sucks that she died but the 2 other guys (who had been in the front seat) had gotten out per officers request and are alive today.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 2, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
double bullshit Jody.

I don't believe in taking over wildlife refuges with guns, no matter what color they are.
As a cop, you shouldn't be into it either.

Maybe Jody would've given Finnicum a medal for climbing out of that truck and not following officers instructions.
John M

climber
Nov 2, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
unarmed Jody.. unarmed. Whether black or white. the guy who was shot was armed and had said many times that he would not allow himself to be taken. i.e. arrested.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Nov 2, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
for the remaining people who chose to plead not guilty in the Oregon bird watching/winter camping thing.

Let's be honest. It was more like Glamping since they had a cabin......and snacks.
John M

climber
Nov 2, 2016 - 12:57pm PT
the problem you have Jody is that you lump everyone together. I don't defend black people who are armed and don't follow lawful orders by the police.

But I do object to some of the instances where a police officer has shot an unarmed man.

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 2, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
Jody hears what he wants to hear. He has a great eye, though.
couchmaster

climber
Nov 2, 2016 - 01:40pm PT
"the problem you have Jody is that you lump everyone together."

I'm with John M there, please find anything I've ever even hinted along those lines Jody. Regarding this quote from Jody:
"If the occupier who was shot and killed was black it would be a whole different story, wouldn't it? You guys would be on the side of the occupiers post haste. "

"You guys?" Find it.
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 2, 2016 - 06:17pm PT
Finicum actually had a black mother and was a thug who lived on welfare and deserved to be shot, if not hung.



But Finicum left a big clue as reported by the NY Times Today, Im not going to end up in prison, said Mr. Finicum, 54, who often appeared at news conferences wearing a broad cowboy hat on his head and a sidearm on his hip. I would rather die than be caged. And Ive lived a good life.

fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Nov 2, 2016 - 08:11pm PT
I felt bad for Finicum as he seemed like a good guy with good intentions but just got himself involved in this hopeless thing.

When he swerved around the blockade to the left into the deep snow, he effectively ran over a cop/fed who had unfortunately chosen to dive into the wrong snowbank when he saw the collision was imminent.

So tensions were likely off the charts high when Finicum burst out of the truck, albeit with his hands over his head. They shot at him immediately which ain't right but keep in mind the confusion and fear with who was in that truck when they saw the door flung open.

Bad day with poor choices on all sides, but not murder IMO.

And as far as the group having a large contingent of state and federal employees, that's always the case. The best way to meet local federal agents anywhere is to join a local "militia".




Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Nov 2, 2016 - 08:25pm PT
Don't forget the FBI agents that were sending in pills indiscriminately and then tried to play it off.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 2, 2016 - 08:35pm PT
Yeah!
I'm with Survival & the sane folks on this thread.

Finnicum wanted to shoot it out with the cops.

Survival:
double bullshit Jody.
I don't believe in taking over wildlife refuges with guns, no matter what color they are.
As a cop, you shouldn't be into it either.
Maybe Jody would've given Finnicum a medal for climbing out of that truck and not following officers instructions.



From Finnicum's published online novel:

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