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crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Nov 20, 2015 - 01:54pm PT
There no end to the ignorance. Limitless. A bottomless pit of hell ^^.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 20, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe

Nov 20, 2015 - 01:54pm PT
There no end to the ignorance. Limitless.

Priceless... simply Priceless.
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Nov 20, 2015 - 02:01pm PT


When ISIS does hit us, and god forbid their attacks are not as grave as they say they will be, do you not believe that the current POTUS will be up for Art II Section 4 for his ineptness to "contain" them, totally "ignoring" the peoples cries to keep us safe from them and then ultimately allow them to attack us here on our own soil?


So, President Obama isn't fighting ISIS "correctly" (in your mind) and that's Treason? Or is it Bribery?

You yourself, with decades in the military, can't even differentiate between seriously different types of military involvement in the Middle East, and somehow you know better than the President? Maybe he's not going at it the "right" way, but really, Article II, Section 4?

You really are one of the most ignorant people who's ever posted here. And you can't even see it can you?

mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Nov 20, 2015 - 02:05pm PT


Never mind Mtnyoung, it will be GW's fault according to you and the few others.


The Chief, is English your second language?

This is what I actually said:



But people who blame him (alone) for what's going on in the Middle East have a very, very shallow understanding of world history, of human nature, and of the history of that region.


I'll give you $100.00 cash if you can reconcile what you (rabidly and inaccurately) claim I would say with what I actually said. Better yet, do it and I'll give the money to the ASCA.

You don't listen and you don't read. You hate. And in your hate you lump everyone that thinks differently into the "enemies" list. It's sad. I hope the Navy didn't do that to you.



survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 20, 2015 - 02:06pm PT
Mtnyng, didn't you know disabled vets opinions are more valuable and correct than their fellow citizens?

Even though we supposedly volunteered for your right to say whatever you want, it doesn't count for as much.

Hell even Donini and I don't count for as much because we don't always fall in line with the chiefs thinking.
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Nov 20, 2015 - 02:13pm PT
Survival, I must have missed that rule :)

Jim Donini - with him, being a vet adds to the respect we've got for him. He earns the respect and the vet status just makes it greater.
couchmaster

climber
Nov 20, 2015 - 02:46pm PT
"Paris suicide vest girl would have passed refugee vetting a couple of months ago
By Thomas Lifson

Hasna Ait Boulahcen, the suicide bomber girl who tried to lure police close enough to die with her when she blew up her suicide vest, was exactly the kind of “modern” Muslim who would have passed any kind of vetting. The 26 year old young woman was a semi-nude selfie-taking, hard drinking, hard smoking, promiscuous person that would seem an unlikely terrorist."

Before jihad picture:


After (a girl can change her mind) picture

"Now, to be clear, she was no refugee – she was born in France. Which is why her transformation reveals so much about Muslim immigration. The hard fact that all the “no religious test” liberals must confront is that Islam at its core is an ideology of global conquest. And even those who stray as far as possible from its teachings are vulnerable to reversion to the strict dogma of brutal conquest and repression contained in the Koran and Hadith.

**Keep in mind that the Tsarnaev Brothers, whose brutal Boston Marathon bombing killed and maimed, and traumatized a major city, were also innocent child refugees when this country opened its heart and treasury to their family."

**My brother was at milepost 25.something when the Boston bomb went off.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Nov 20, 2015 - 02:47pm PT
spot on Crankster
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 20, 2015 - 02:55pm PT
Mtnyng, didn't you know disabled vets opinions are more valuable and correct than their fellow citizens?

Even though we supposedly volunteered for your right to say whatever you want, it doesn't count for as much.

NOT when it comes to actually engaging Bad Guys with the exact same mindset as ISIS, Bruce. Something of which I believe I have the upper hand than most here on this thread considering the fact that I spent three years of my life actually doing so in three different locations on this planet.

But don't let that fact be considered into the equation cus that is just plain ignorance....
John M

climber
Nov 20, 2015 - 02:57pm PT
confront is that Islam at its core is an ideology of global conquest.

as long as people believe this, then we will have world conflict. Thanks to all the war and fear mongers. Keep saying over and over that muslem/christians want to dominate the world and we will have world war. welcome to hell.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 20, 2015 - 03:07pm PT
I'd be curious to know Bruce, what Donini's current Brothers in Arms think about his ISIS and radical Islam beliefs considering their remarkable confirmed tactical and sniper kill operational record in Afghanistan terminating Bad Guys in the same "JV" league as ISIS. The Taliban.

I'd figure to guess he has never "openly" shared his views on this issue with them.



There no end to the ignorance. Limitless. A bottomless pit of hell^^^


zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 20, 2015 - 03:15pm PT
Say The. You've made a lot of posts here. Can you summarize for us just what your 10 (12, 20?) step plan would be given the opportunity to dictate to Obama his correct course of action in this matter.

I have corresponded (well I sent him stuff and someone read it and replied) in the past, I would be happy to pass on your thoughts regarding what needs to be done.

If you'd rather, it's pretty ez to find his address.


mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Nov 20, 2015 - 03:17pm PT


NOT when it comes to actually engaging Bad Guys with the exact same mindset as ISIS, Bruce. Something of which I believe I have the upper hand than most here on this thread considering the fact that I spent three years of my life actually doing so in three different locations on this planet.


And your experience could lend validity to your opinions, The Chief.

If you would maintain some level of consistency in what you say. Quit using oranges to support your position on apples. But you don't.

On the other hand, your experience "in the trenches" may just mean that you can't see the forest for the trees too.

The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 20, 2015 - 03:20pm PT
On the other hand, your experience "in the trenches" may just mean that you can't see the forest for the trees too.

Maybe because I experienced the fall of far too many precious trees from that forest due to "civilian" twits 6k miles away making the calls.


If you would maintain some level of consistency in what you say. Quit using oranges to support your position on apples. But you don't.

Odd, my opinion has been pretty consistent regarding this issue. Go get the Motherfkers with absolutely NO mercy in mind.

Fight and destroy them with their rules on their turf. Not by our "civilized" goodie two shoe PC ones.

The "GC" needs to be totally shetcanned with these fkwads.

That is how you contain pieces of ruthless shet like ISIS.


EDIT:

BTW MTNYOUNG, during my time doing the dirty deedof engaging Bad Guys, I was 33-35, had 17-19 years in the Navy and was Chief going on three years. I chose to play.
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Nov 20, 2015 - 03:25pm PT


Maybe because I experienced the fall of far too many precious trees from that forest due to "civilian" twits 6k miles away making the calls.


Maybe so.

And that's a very good reason not to send our soldiers into harm's way. Keep them home until the civilian "bosses" can follow a set of laws (rules of engagement) that don't make your fight hopeless and stupid.
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Nov 20, 2015 - 03:29pm PT


Odd, my opinion has been pretty consistent regarding this issue. Go get the Motherfkers with absolutely NO mercy in mind.

Fight and destroy them with their rules on their turf. Not by our "civilized" goodie two shoe PC ones.

The "GC" needs to be totally shetcanned with these fkwads.

That is how you contain pieces of ruthless shet like ISIS.


Sorry, I don't get what "GC" is.

But in your scenario, what becomes of "civilians" who get in the way? Are there any non-combatants? And what do we do about our current rules of engagement that all but prohibit any chance of "collateral damage?"

(And no, I don't have my own thoughts together on this subject yet. I'm not sure what I'd do or how to approach this question. I do know that putting our troops into the situations they've been in in Iraq and Afghanistan was totally useless - it accomplished nothing, and that's not fair to them).

The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 20, 2015 - 03:30pm PT
And that's a very good reason not to send our soldiers into harm's way. Keep them home until the civilian "bosses" can follow a set of laws (rules of engagement) that don't make your fight hopeless and stupid.

Ah, it's been two years since ISIS began their shet. We engaged and still do, several "JV" entities of the same caliber for over twelve years now. You'd think that all them P.Hd'd Civ Bosses you speak of would have enough "feedback" from the 10's of 1000's of doods that are still in and have been in the trenches and that have been in "harms way" doing the deal, to have that figured out by now.

Hmmmmmm.....


I do know that putting our troops into the situations they've been in in Iraq and Afghanistan was totally useless - it accomplished nothing, and that's not fair to them.

Ah, see the above portion of this post.


Example A:


Green Beret Who Beat Afghan Man Over Child's Rape Faces Army Discharge
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/09/01/green-beret-who-beat-afghan-man-over-childs-rape-faces-discharge.html

All troops serving in Afghanistan have been ordered to "ignore" this "traditional cultural custom" by the locals and Afghan Army since day one by those Civilian Bosses you speak of MTNYOUNG.


Example B:

Army revokes Green Beret’s Silver Star for killing known enemy and bomb-maker
http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/02/army-revokes-green-berets-silver-star-killing-known-enemy-bomb-maker/

Ironically, the above was simply doing his job and following operational orders. To hunt down and terminate this particular known IED/BOMB maker. Now the Civilian Bosses want his head on a platter because he openly shared this particular op.

Oh the ironeeee...... just some of the many trees in the forest.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Nov 20, 2015 - 03:40pm PT
Who controls the congress??? Oh yeah. Republicans.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/18/why_is_congress_picking_on_refugees_instead_of_declaring_war_on_isis.html

pb

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Nov 20, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
GC Geneva Convention
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 20, 2015 - 04:27pm PT
From your source Crankaloon....


It’s slightly disingenuous to put the blame for this state of affairs entirely on Congress. The Obama administration was more than happy to bomb ISIS for six months before even asking Congress for permission to do so, arguing that the 2001 authorization to go after the perpetrators of 9/11 covers these strikes against a group that didn’t even exist at the time. (Hillary Clinton repeated this dubious line of reasoning at Saturday night’s debate.)

The authorization for force against ISIS that Obama submitted to Congress in February died a quiet death about two months later. Republicans argued that language in the bill ruling out “enduring offensive ground operations” was too restrictive. Liberals worried it was too vague and would open the door to a new U.S. military presence in the Middle East. But these concerns should be reconcilable.


Now what was that about....

There no end to the ignorance. Limitless. A bottomless pit of hell^^^


RFLMAO!
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