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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:19pm PT
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With a name like Jeb what's not to like..?
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Norton
Social climber
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:28pm PT
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Incredibly, the electronic real money betting markets continue to have Jeb as the
ultimate Republican nominee, reasoning that eventually the Republican base will come to its senses and realize that Trumps as zero chance of winning and moderate Jeb is the smart money bet.
I think they are wrong, that they are overestimating the intelligence of the Republican base voter in assuming they will change their minds.
A bet of Trump to be the nominee is currently against smart money betting but
maybe worth a shot, thinking Republican voters value flash and talk over political
experience and competence, to the horror of the RNC who knows you actually have to win the Presidency first.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Oct 13, 2015 - 09:25pm PT
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RJ, haven't you seen his campaign posters?
His name is Jeb!
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 14, 2015 - 08:03am PT
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Technically, dirtbag, you said essentially that anyone on this thread going after that apparently poor and unfortunate girl was being too hard on her, suggesting that perhaps the reasons for bringing her poor behavior to particular attention were poorly thought out since now she would have to live with that decision apparently forever, because you know you, I, and everyone else here agree to the reality in which things which happen on the Internet are eternal.
Silly boy, I said no such thing.
Whats more, you seem to contend that people here OBVIOUSLY agree that people such as myself over-react, or act impulsively, in these situations, merely because you said so. Have a nice day, indeed :)
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Oh, this again?
Actually, you started attacking me.
Whatever. Call me a gaslighter (whatever the fook that is), a gas bag, gas hog, gaseous, or Gaspar. It's your mo, and I'm in good company in the gaslight department.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2515755&msg=2695673#msg2695673
http://www.supertopo.com/forumsearch.php?v=0&cur=0&ftr1=&ftr2=Gaslighting&ftr3=&ftr4=&scope=all
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 14, 2015 - 08:08am PT
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Norton, I still think Rubio will emerge from the scrum.
The "problem" is that he is Hispanic, Catholic, and not sufficiently hard ass with respect to immigrants, so he might not get the base fired up for the generals. Then again, floating a picture of Hillary might be enough to motivate them.
A friend speculated Jeb might have early dementia. I just think he's a poor candidate.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 14, 2015 - 08:13am PT
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Lol I guess the little boy jammer has been waiting all morning for me to respond so he can call me a gaslighter again.
Whatever. I'll get along just fine knowing you don't like me.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Oct 14, 2015 - 08:27am PT
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Romney seemed like an unlikely candidate at this point in the 2012 election. Weren't the front runners Rick Perry and Spermin' Herman?
It is no mystery why they are trying to resurrect Mittens for a 2016 run.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 14, 2015 - 08:43am PT
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Jammer: zzzzz...
I'm sure everyone else reading this thread thinks that, too.
Good day, sir.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Oct 14, 2015 - 10:08pm PT
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Romney seemed like an unlikely candidate at this point in the 2012 election. Weren't the front runners Rick Perry and Spermin' Herman?
It is no mystery why they are trying to resurrect Mittens for a 2016 run.
It SEEMED that way, but it was not. There are other metrics that are more predictive. BTW, those same metrics are not working especially well in Bush's favor now, particularly compared with Hillary (scroll down for year comparisons and analysis):
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/
In the book “The Party Decides” (2008), the most comprehensive study of the invisible primary, the political scientists Marty Cohen, David Karol, Hans Noel and John Zaller evaluated data on endorsements made in presidential nomination contests between 1980 and 2004 and found that “early endorsements in the invisible primary are the most important cause of candidate success in the state primaries and caucuses.”
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couchmaster
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 15, 2015 - 12:21pm PT
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Rottenjohnny asked: "With a name like Jeb what's not to like..? "
All kinds of dingenious crap as it turns out RJ. Like this cheap parlor trick he did 3 times by some accounts. (2 in this account) What a douchbag.
"Jeb Bush was caught standing on his tiptoes during the group photo at Wednesday's Republican debate. Bush did not just do it once either, and was caught at least twice by cameras as he set himself up for the shot.
He also managed to stand out by stretching his arms a bit to take up more room than his fellow candidates."
quote from http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027178712
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couchmaster
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 15, 2015 - 12:25pm PT
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Here's the Bush Operative planted in the audience to make Trump look bad. Mashup of her hugging Bush and then asking the Trump questions.
What a shithead thing to do. You want this guy leading the country cause his name is Jeb? Really dude?
Dirty tricks.... not just for Nixon as it turns out. I hope the voters reject this assw@pe, and Hillary too.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 15, 2015 - 01:22pm PT
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Christie is looking at the buffet table...... he notices.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Oct 15, 2015 - 01:40pm PT
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Oooh, couchmaster. What treachery you have alerted us to. I mean someone interested enough in the Republican nomination to vet the different candidates, including asking one of them a question. Outrageous! Your nation owes you a debt of gratitude.
A new slogan for the clueless Trump fans: "Keep on Trumpin'"
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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Oct 15, 2015 - 01:53pm PT
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The woman in the front row in the picture above also appears to have bunny ears. Oh, well.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 15, 2015 - 01:55pm PT
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Tippy toes and his head is angled upward.
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Norton
Social climber
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Oct 15, 2015 - 02:00pm PT
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Oooh, couchmaster. What treachery you have alerted us to. I mean someone interested enough in the Republican nomination to vet the different candidates, including asking one of them a question. Outrageous! Your nation owes you a debt of gratitude.
A new slogan for the clueless Trump fans: "Keep on Trumpin'"
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Oct 15, 2015 - 03:00pm PT
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I haven't carefully read every post, but from quick skimming, I see that:
pretty much everyone dislikes Jeb (although some people like his name).
Hard to see how he can win in light of the ST straw poll.
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John M
climber
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Oct 15, 2015 - 03:04pm PT
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Hard to see how he can win in light of the ST straw poll.
we didn't like his brother either… or at least his brothers choices of playmates.
I wouldn't mind drinking a beer with George. He is pretty funny dude.
Cheney and Rumsfeld and Rove on the other hand deserve to be tried for crimes against the nation.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Oct 15, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
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Did you ever notice how Cheney never seems to age? It's that way with all the Sith lords.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 15, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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Did Anonymous stop Rove from stealing the election?
It would explain his Fox News outburst, but the Hacker claim lacks evidence
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/did_anonymous_stop_rove_stealing_the_election/
On Election Night, viewers watched in shock as Karl Rove refused to accept the call, confirmed by Fox News analysts, that Ohio had gone to Obama.
A release claiming to be from hacker collective Anonymous alleges there was more behind Rove’s freak-out than first met the eye. The group says that it foiled Rove’s attempt to steal the election in Florida, Virginia and Ohio by using the GOP’s ORCA system.
Two weeks prior to Election Night, a typical Anonymous video was released warning Rove against rigging the election. “We want you to know that we are watching you, waiting for you to make this mistake of thinking you can rig this election to your favor,” Anonymous’ ubiquitous Guy Fawkes character warned.
Then, following Obama’s win and Rove’s very public outburst, a group calling themselves “The Protectors,” believed to be comprised of Anonymous hackers, sent a letter to election transparency non-profit, Velvet Revolution, claiming to have thwarted attempts by GOP strategists to flip votes and rig the election in three swing states.
The letter claims that the GOP’s ORCA — a GOTV (Get Out the Vote) system — was in fact designed to rig votes in favor of Romney (although the letter does not verify this or specify how ORCA was designed to do this.) The Protectors claim that they installed a password protected firewall to block attempts to digitally rig votes:
We coded and created, what we call, The Great Oz. A targeted password protected firewall that we tested and refined over the past weeks. We place this code on more than one of the digital tunnels and their destination’s that Karl’s not so smart worker bees planned to use on election night.
The Protectors alleged these “digital tunnels” were leading to servers in three different states. The release claims that Rove’s operatives attempted to unsuccessfully breach The Great Oz firewall to access these tunnels throughout election night. “We watched as Karl’s weak corrupters repeatedly tried to penetrate The Great Oz. These children of his were at a loss-how many times and how many passwords did they try? — exactly 105.”
The details in the Anonymous claim are currently unverified and there are many lingering question. For one, as our own Alex Seitz-Wald pointed out via email, “they never explain how Rove was stealing the election in Ohio, Florida, and Virginia. [There are] not many e-voting machines and not sure how else you’d do it.”
a couple more paragraphs at link
I'm sure there are plans for rigging this election, there were many irregularities found in the 2014 Republican Sweep
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