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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Jun 27, 2015 - 09:55pm PT
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Yes its been hijacked by hate groups that have zero to do with the Civil war. If Issis were to hijack the rainbow flag, would you all condemn it as well? Muchado about very frickin little...
Great to share a name with a concentration camp...
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Jun 27, 2015 - 10:02pm PT
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She went at the flag in same way that a bull charges a red cape or whatever.
The bullfighter waves said cape, and just steps aside and sticks sword in stupid bull. End of story.
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Rick Sylvester
Trad climber
Squaw Valley, California
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Jun 29, 2015 - 01:41am PT
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When I first heard of this a couple of days ago I became curious as to the method of ascent. Shinnying, ie. free climbing. Yesterday there was tv footage. Ok, not free. But this may represent the rare instance in climbing when the "what" outweighs the "how". Bravo!
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Jun 29, 2015 - 03:27am PT
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Most of those fighting never owned a slave.
How many Americans have owned a banana plantation, an oilfield, a sugar cane farm? And so on.
I can't take it any more.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Jun 29, 2015 - 06:18am PT
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"The Molly Blue was the first version."
Probably mean the "Bonnie Blue".
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 29, 2015 - 06:23am PT
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"Whom shall I fear?", indeed.
muchado about very frickin little Ignorance personified.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jun 29, 2015 - 07:00am PT
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Of course, the men in the group reacted just like I'd imagine the "flag supporters" on this forum would in the same situation - tails between the legs.
No one sent to the hospital?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jun 29, 2015 - 08:35am PT
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Well, aren't you the internet tough guy.
Thanks for the laugh.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Ten Black Churches have been burned to the ground since the terrorist attack in Charleston S.C..
The latest Church was burned down before by the KKK 20 years ago.
we can easily guess who the perpetrators are, Right Wing Conservative enabled White Supremacist Groups
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/30/fire-black-church-south-carolina_n_7702070.html
There has been a rash of fires at predominantly black churches in the weeks following the June 17 massacre in Charleston. In the past two weeks, six of those fires occurred in Southern states, USA Today noted. Of these, three are confirmed as arson. Federal officials are looking into whether some of the cases may be hate crimes.
There is a long history of arson attacks on black churches in America, as The Atlantic recently detailed. The attacks are often racially motivated, "a highly visible attack on a core institution of the black community, often done at night, and often motivated by hate," writer Emma Green wrote.
Speaking last week on the shooting at Emanuel AME Church, President Barack Obama said, "The fact that this took place in a black church obviously also raises questions about a dark part of our history. This is not the first time that black churches have been attacked."
The series of church fires began just days after the the Charleston shooting, invigorating a conversation on the issue of deep-seated racism in America. Lawmakers and civil rights leaders have sparked a national movement calling for the removal of the Confederate flag over its ties to slavery. Pictures posted on online of Dylann Roof, the suspected shooter in the Charleston killings, show him with the flag and at Confederate sites.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Watched a local redneck booger eating moron drive by yesterday with a big 'ol Confederate flag hanging off his tailgate. Proudly & defiantly, no doubt.
It's wonderful to live in a country where we have the right to do pretty much anything we want, no matter how much of an as#@&%e it makes us look like.
How that right extends to certain States being able to display the flag of group that effectively attempted to overthrow the country is beyond me.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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I don't know but it sure as hell will stop the church burnings.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Maybe the church fire was not arson.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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my daughter and husband are not laughing at the ignorance...
Where do they live?
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dirtbag
climber
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Hanging a confederate flag is as defensible as hanging a Nazi flag.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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What's very tragic in all this is that until about a week ago she could/would have been beaten up (or worse) for doing such a thing.
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dirtbag
climber
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My story is similar, locker.
Like you, that's not a "heritage" I'm particularly proud of.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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I agree with Spider Savage - she's a true hero. She put her ass on the line to say something real. With consequences for her actions.
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dirtbag
climber
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RG, good points.
Now, though, we have to stop giving them a pass on their ignorance and call bullshit "bullsh#t."
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