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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Helping others need not involve the government
Sure, but the government is the one that prints the money. We could go back to anarchy but I doubt that would help the poor. The government is comprised of with and for our neighbors. And you know what our neighbors are like!
What would the poor Christians in Indiana do without their government to protect them? Sure we'd be just all peachy altruism without the government stifling us.
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
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zBrown:
I got into llamas thinking every llama owner had the same premise as I - the reason to have a llama is to have a pack animal. I never deviated from this rational. The speculative side of llama "investing" (or ostrich or alpaca) investing wasn't why I owned the animals. I still have a pack string - and the llamas as investment bubble burst about 20 years ago. As to how much a llama ranch is worth?; less than Warbler's pad, in my case.
Thanks Mouse for the memories. Judi, Honey and I are a happy family. See U Soon at City of Rocks!
Funny thing about that picture. The very next day I woke seeing a billion gnats flying in the sky. Turned out the gnats were blood cells floating inside my eye ball from a torn retina. That mass of tissue still floats around inside my eye and my vision is a blurry mess. Nonetheless, "this dude abides" and I may be able to restore my vision with one more eye surgery (three down; one to go).
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2015 - 11:53am PT
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Thanks TWP. I came close to making an offer on an[alpaca]ranch? outside of Ridgway, more for the land than the livestock. When I looked into it, I could find no example of anyone making money from the wool (it all comes from South America). All the profits were from selling animals to other "investors".
They are interesting creatures, though one of them here looks a little bogus.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Perhaps a venture into an Angora sheep ranch near Bodie?
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Terry, I hadn't real-eyesed your vacation-interrupting episode was this serious. I hope that your hopes come true. Myself, I have a plastic lens in my right eye.
"See you and raise you."--Kenny Rogers
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Helping a family member, friend or neighbor need not always involve money
Agreed! But often those categories are the limit of where we're willing to extend our empathy on our own.
Maybe we didn't really need those damn Yankees and their liberal ideas of freedom, and we would have freed blacks on our own benevolence without our governments civil war. Or maybe 150 years later we didn't need our governments Brown v Board of Education or the Civil Rights Act to say that separate but equal wasn't equal, and we were on our way to treating people equally on our own. Or maybe 60 years after that we didn't need the DOJ to tell us about Ferguson's institutional racism because can't we all just get along? And maybe daddy saying about the highest status black American ever "Obama is a little girl who soiled his panties" doesn't reflect on his or his or my daughter's skin color, and doesn't just reinforce all Americans valuing lighter skin color over darker skin color. Sure, maybe.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Both kids are ready to go off to school and they seem to be good people- you'd like them for your neighbors
Marriage is good
Don't owe anyone money
I made a good choice of career--taught (or at least tried to teach) about 4000 students over the last 30 years
I have a few skills but I'm not great at anything
I can laugh at myself
So to answer your question i would say No i'm not poor
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2015 - 09:31am PT
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Must be Obama, or maybe it was Bush, Clinton? Truman?
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