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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 24, 2018 - 10:32am PT
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woodstove bump
We bought this fifty year old fixer a couple years ago and now I actually live in it. I love it. There is evidence that at one time there was a forced-air furnace and some baseboard heaters. When we bought the house it had a Blaze King catalytic stove. A true beast. I replaced the catalytic converter and the door gsket and some fire bricks. This thing can kick out some heat and I can get burn times well over 24 hours. It is downstairs and I don't spend much time down there but it keeps things toasty and the heat eventually makes it up. I then scored a barely used Lopi Revere insert for the upstairs. It is an EPA stove and it sticks out of the firebox enough to have a 10" x 2' cooking surface. Really nice stove that heats well. The house is tight and well insulated so it gets toasty.
Wood is my only heat source now except for a couple of wall heaters and an Edenpure space heater, but I rarely use them. Getting and storing and chopping wood is real work and it seems fun now but I'm sure that will get old as I will too. Eventually I'll get another heat source when I can afford it but for now this will have to do. Wood is cheap or free here, so that is a bonus but smoke is a concern. I will try to get some pics later.
Keep warm!
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Nov 24, 2018 - 10:57am PT
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Pellet stoves really are a much better if you care about what you & your neighbors are breathing.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 24, 2018 - 11:21am PT
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I have a pellet stove that I'm going to put in the shop. As for my neighbors, they all burn wood and my stoves burn much cleaner. The density here is negligible so no-one really gets smoked out. At this time of the year everyone is bundled up inside by their woodstoves. In a perfect world, I wouldn't need to burn but I do like to be warm and I can't yet afford the latest environmentally correct apparatus.
I had to remove more than a few trees from my property for fire safety and I now have a bunch of free firewood. The bigger trees went to the mill so I also have a bunch of lumber for home projects and furniture. 16'x26"x3" live-edge slabs for counters and tables and lot of it is blue from beetle kill.
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Bargainhunter
climber
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Nov 24, 2018 - 01:43pm PT
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Did someone mention woodstoves? I like them so much I take mine climbing with me. This one (Solo Stove Lite) weighs 9oz and fuel is free everywhere, at least anywhere there are trees or bushes.
PS: What happened to Weege?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 24, 2018 - 02:03pm PT
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When I was a teenager my folks bought a dilapidated old Amish farmhouse about 80 miles south of Buffalo. In the winter we'd stay down there and go ski touring in the Allegheny mountains. This was the heat source. Best used with the door closed. Mos def not EPA compliant.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 24, 2018 - 02:08pm PT
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Up in Alaska even though I only had like 4 neighbors within a half mile on cold days the smoke would lie on the ground and make me pine for LA.
So how ridiculous is it that we all have to buy Teslas so the country bumpkins can go on polluting?
Have a nice winter, Wayno! 😉
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Nov 24, 2018 - 04:29pm PT
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My parents in Washington have gone thru various stoves over 40 years.
Long ago it was a wood insert that required all the work of splitting and loading wood. Then a better one.
Those ended because of the creosote and 2 chimney fires, one enough to crack the masonry. Most wood in Washington is softwood, mainly fir.
Next went through 2 pellet stoves, with heat exchangers. First was a very early one, second was an improved dual auger version. Both of them burned well, eventually had the augers fail.
Now they can't load pellets anymore and have a propane fireplace insert. Had to add a propane tank outside also.
All of these are in addition to an electric furnace.
Some of the neighbors still burn logs and the smoke sometimes just sits around, when there is little wind. On the very worst days Puget Sound has burn bans, but these bans are extremely rare since it takes a lot of pollution to activate. Stage 1 bans use of non certified stoves. In all of Puget Sound it is illegal to buy, sell, exchange or give away uncertified stoves. Tacoma/Pierce county is the first to completely ban all non-certified stoves, as of Oct 2015. All uncertified stoves may not be used, regardless of when you bought it.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 24, 2018 - 04:48pm PT
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I had one of those Ashleys in my tipi when i spent a winter in the snow.......when i got home at night the puppies would be lying underneath the stove to keep warm...
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Republic, WA
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Nov 25, 2018 - 08:53am PT
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I updated my profile. I am not in Seattle. I wouldn't need or want a stove there. Where I'm at now is still in the Pleistocene so wood heat is kosher. Sure it is cozy but it is a pain to deal with the wood. I burn three kinds of wood. Ponderosa pine was from my property and free. It burns hot and fast when dry and is great for starting up and heating the fire box. I also buy Fir and mostly Larch. They burn better being denser. Fir not so much but Tamarack as it is called here is dense and practically a hardwood. The only deciduous conifer, check it out, they lose their needles every fall. Next year I will try and get my own wood. I get a permit from the Forest Service and I'm good for up to ten cords. I have a truck, a chainsaw, a winch and a peavey. I plan to cut it into logs onsite and then buck it at home and rent a splitter. Early or late because they close the forest to chainsaws during fire season.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 25, 2018 - 09:09am PT
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Where I'm at now is still in the Pleistocene
C’mon, Wayno, this lovely clock doesn’t date from the Pleistocene!
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Republic, WA
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Nov 25, 2018 - 09:37am PT
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That's downright modern, Reilly. Nothin' like that in Republic. Maybe Omak, probably not Tonasket and surely not here.
Speaking of woodstoves, we scored an antique wood-burning cook range last week from some friends in Ontario, Oregon. It's from the Never-Break Range Co. in St Louis. Not as ornate as some but there is a lot of nickel plating and it is complete and probably still functions. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it but it was free and it is a beauty.
I got it out of the pickup without any help or lifting. Work smart.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 25, 2018 - 09:42am PT
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It is Tonasket, braj! Why else would I have posted it? 🤨
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Republic, WA
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Nov 25, 2018 - 10:08am PT
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Tonasket it is. We love Chesaw. Almost bought a place there. Do you know how they got the name? About as remote as it gets around here. Did you check out Molson?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 25, 2018 - 10:27am PT
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Cause Chesaw rhymes with Hee-Haw? 🤡
It is sweet! And low fire danger!
For sale!
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telemon01
Trad climber
Montana
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Nov 25, 2018 - 11:03am PT
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when the cold gray days of winter roll in there’s nothing quite as comforting as the radiating warmth and snap and crackle of a wood stove
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 25, 2018 - 11:48am PT
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I've heated our house for almost 20 years now primarily with wood. Although old stoves are certainly nostalgic they absolutely suck in terms of efficiency that correlates directly to how much wood you'll labor over.
I've got the biggest jotul freestander and it consumes 25-30% less wood thab an ancient vermont castings that was here prior.
Pollution aside, a new stove will likely save your back!
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Republic, WA
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Nov 25, 2018 - 01:36pm PT
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Yep, EPA stoves are the ticket and you don't have to spend a bunch. I found my Lopi on craigslist for 200 bucks. All it needed was a new door gasket, a couple of new firebricks and a coat of new paint.
Proper installation is the key. I bought my SS liner kit in Canada for cheap and did it myself. I did have some experience as an installer. It is up to code. I had to do some cutting of the old Heatilator metal firebox in the fireplace and remove the old damper. Sawsall was the ticket. I made my own surround out of aluminum. The hardest part was getting the stove from Seattle to here and then up some stairs but with a dolly not too bad. A little vinegar and that brass door really shines.
The previous owners had some scary homemade insert that was burned out and the install was atrociously dangerous. They hadn't swept the chimney in a while and I'm surprised they didn't have a fire. I'm not surprised that they burned up to ten chords. I should get by with three or four, but if I don't I always have a bunch of pine.
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rincon
climber
Coarsegold
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Jan 10, 2019 - 08:11am PT
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Meanwhile in Russia....
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 10, 2019 - 08:26am PT
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After a high speed wreck on the highway, I bet that'll have the cops scratching their heads.
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