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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 28, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
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Some shark got that wingless ray in no time.
Nature's way cruel, men are part of nature.
Shark paranoia leads to extreme behavior on the part of those not versed in the role of sharks as opportunistic predators.
Men organized huge rabbit drives here in Merced County years ago. It had its purpose--they kept the locals from harvesting more crops after all their arduous husbandry, while supplying some meat for the table, too.
It was just the way things were done, for good or ill.
Abalones will fly when we become perfect predators like the shark.
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hashbro
Trad climber
Mental Physics........
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Nov 28, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
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http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Editorial+should+trophy+bear+hunting/8875726/story.html
Editorial: B.C. should ban trophy bear hunting
Killing the animals for sport is a practice that belongs in a bygone era
Vancouver Sun September 6, 2013
It is past time to put an end to the provincially condoned slaughter of bears in wilderness areas along B.C.’s coast.
The long-standing practice is part of a so-called trophy hunt in which tourists compete in a lottery for as many as 3,800 licences for the “harvesting” of bears in designated areas.
Hunters are accompanied by knowledgeable guides and use crossbows or high-powered rifles equipped with half-mile scopes. Some 300 grizzlies are killed annually, usually while feeding at salmon streams or by the shoreline. They are skinned, their heads and paws cut off, then left to rot in the wild. No part of the animal is eaten or used in any other manner.
The senselessness of the gruesome ritual was underscored this week with publication of a horrific photo showing Port McNeill native and National Hockey League player Clayton Stoner holding up the severed head of a five-yea- old grizzly that had been well known to members of the Heitsuk Nation. Stoner killed the bear last May.
Aside from the fact Canada’s grizzlies arguably constitute a threatened population — the David Suzuki Foundation is urging Ottawa to legally list Canada’s grizzly bears under the federal Species at Risk Act — this sort of gratuitous killing of animals surely belongs to a bygone age.
Public sensibilities have evolved, as is evident from a July poll conducted by Vancouver-based McAllister Opinion Research, showing 87 per cent of B.C. respondents favour banning trophy hunting for bears.
Indeed the Coastal First Nations, representing nine aboriginal groups living on the north and central coasts — where 42 per cent of the territory is open to a grizzly hunt — introduced such a ban in 2012. But it cannot be legally enforced because it is not recognized by the province.
While the hunt brings in about $350 million in tourism revenue to B.C., money that supports guide outfitters, hunting lodges and charter aircraft, a more modern approach can be taken that promises to be every bit as lucrative for players involved.
Just as African safari profits do not rely on tourists slaughtering the wildlife, and whale-watching tours do not permit rifles on board, there is cash to be made in conducting bear-viewing tours.
Kevin J. Smith, who runs a B.C. company organizing such tours, writes on his Facebook page that bear viewing is a fast-growing business. “Demographic trends and a growing eco-savviness of travellers means that environmentally sustainable and ethical adventure travel are increasingly the options people seek.”
And bear shooting, contends Smith, is not compatible with bear viewing, placing tourists at risk and chasing bears from the area.
He calls bear hunting resource-extractive and unsustainable, comparing it to “clearcut logging of ancient forest.”
Of course, he is correct. There is more value long term to be made in bear viewing. And, importantly, an end to the hunt would enhance B.C.’s international reputation for respecting the environment.
“Bears are not trophies,” says Jennifer Walkus, a member of the Wuikinuxv Nation, which supports the hunting ban. “They’re our neighbours and they deserve to stay a living, breathing part of the B.C. coast, now and forever.”
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 28, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
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I must say, a hunting process that results in the entire harvest of bear meat being left to rot is nothing short of offensive.
I do have a problem with killing for the fun of killing. Subsistence is something else, but the fact is that hunting is not a particularly cheap way to obtain meat in the lower 48.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2014 - 04:48am PT
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I am definantly in the hunt for food catagory. you can't taste the horns but you can make usefull tools out of them. I know its not cheap but if you are going to eat meat venison is the most organic meat you will get you hands on.
Unless you are Vegan you have pretty much zero credibility in bashing hunting for food.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 30, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
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And what makes it even funnier is that blurag thought that the guy was going to be all humane, and shite!!!!
AAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
Mister man didn't realize what he was getting himself into and now he's turning pinko on us!!!
Remember "because most people get their food from the supermarket and don't think about where it comes from...and it's not a pretty place."
including the fishing holes, blew!!
too funny, for years this guy has been telling other ST's to sac-up, man up and all the other "good-old-boy" bootstraps talk... he see one piece of reality and he comes running to the board to let us know...
Ok, what if he just cut the head off into the water and walked with the whole body with the wings intact... that degree is ok, right? But throwing the body back without the wings... oh, man... you are mistreating a fish...
f-ing sissy
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I don't think you realize that you are the fool in what you just said. Read what I said, and then read your above reply.
You're a 'leg-humper' who needs to get f*#king life!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 30, 2014 - 03:58pm PT
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"Why don't you go populate hunting sites with your idiocy now m'kay, thanks."
Ain't that a feckin' FAKT.
Too many goddam gunnutz threads here these days. They keep knocking polititard threads off the front page!
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Nov 30, 2014 - 04:50pm PT
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For your bemusement.....
Of Moose and Men
(Alces pessimisticus)
The moose’s physiognomy is dour and lugubrious,
As though about his future he is cynical and dubious.
It may be that his sadness comes from knowing that he’s doomed,
And that by wolves or bears or man, he’ll finally be consumed.
And if he’s shot by humans, then his antlers or his head
May decorate a living room, an outhouse or a shed.
A gross and pagan ritual of most peculiar use...
It reassures the hunter that he’s smarter than a moose.
WM
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