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Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Sep 13, 2018 - 04:37pm PT
345%

How does that work?
Robb

Social climber
Cat Box
Sep 13, 2018 - 04:58pm PT
Ksolem,
It's an "excellent use of mathematics" to explain the corollary of certain people dying.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 13, 2018 - 05:02pm PT
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/the-nras-catch-22-for-black-men-shot-by-police/570124/

The city of Dallas, Texas, has been rocked by news of an off-duty police officer shooting a black man in his own apartment.

...The National Rifle Association’s spokesperson sees the incident a bit differently. Dana Loesch argued that Jean would still be alive had he been armed and shot Guyger instead. “I don’t think there’s any context that the actions would have been justified,” Loesch acknowledged, but asserted that “this could have been very different if Botham Jean had been, say he was a law-abiding gun owner and he saw somebody coming into his apartment.” At a time when many conservative writers were expressing empathy for Jean and hoping that justice would be served, Loesch’s disciplined adherence to the NRA’s bottom line stands out.

Loesch’s reaction is an example of what one might call the “Rice rule,” after Tamir Rice, the 12-year old killed by a white police officer while playing in a park with a toy gun: There are no circumstances in which the responsibility for a police shooting of an unarmed black person cannot be placed on the victim.

...But the NRA’s conspicuous lack of outrage after the shootings of Philando Castile, Jason Washington, and Alton Sterling, all black men killed by police while in possession of a firearm, suggests an impossible double standard. When armed black men are shot by the police, the NRA says nothing about the rights of gun owners; when unarmed black men are shot, its spokesperson says they should have been armed. To this day, Loesch defends Castile’s shooting as justified—despite the fact that Castile informed the officer he was carrying a firearm. In Washington’s case, Loesch said she was “never going to keyboard quarterback what police are doing.”

...There’s also a catch-22 here: If Jean had been armed, Guyger would have a much more plausible defense. If innocent unarmed black men like Jean are shot, it’s because they lack firearms; if innocent black men who are armed like Castile or Sterling are shot, it’s because they had a gun. Heads, you’re dead; tails, you’re also dead.

Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Sep 13, 2018 - 05:56pm PT
So it's kind of like 5.10 being a bigger quantity that 5.9?

;-)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 13, 2018 - 10:30pm PT
JB, you know damn well you won’t get a straight answer -
a comrade can only answer dlalectically, if that.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Sep 14, 2018 - 09:25am PT
duh JB, anarcosindicalismo
Lituya

Mountain climber
Sep 14, 2018 - 10:12am PT
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/end-qualified-immunity-supreme-court/

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 14, 2018 - 10:14am PT
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