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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 26, 2014 - 03:29pm PT
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I think some here would not hes. to say he's full of shite, regardless. :0)
Speaking of which, why ain't the don commented or is he too busy painting his navel orange?
Omphullaskepticism, JIM. You are a real man, and a real troll. Is you divine or maleficent?
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MH2
climber
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Jul 26, 2014 - 03:33pm PT
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A few other pieces of the puzzle, from the lair of a humanist.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 26, 2014 - 06:07pm PT
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Humanism places its faith in humankind, so that
for the continuing worsening human misery . . . it has
no satisfactory explanation, only excuses, lies,
evasions, and utopian promises.
In the spirit of the journal to which I subscribed, MANAS, a weekly effort by a man named Henry Geiger, there is no name ascribed to the above quote.
There in L.A., someplace along a ridgetop, servicing his water well, I met Mr. Geiger, had a bit of refreshing herb tea, and conversed during my lunch break on our mutual past. It turned out that the father of my friend, Sara T., had been one of his fellow Conscientious Objectors during the one war it was not at all popular to have been one, the one fought and won by The Greatest Generation.
It was a stimulating day, to say the least, and I later on sent him the cash to subscribe to his journal, making me one of "the 2,500 most interesting people in the world" by default. See the introduction in the following link to the online MANAS.
http://www.manasjournal.org/aman.html
Don't stay up too late reading this. You have to get up to go to church in the morning.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Jul 26, 2014 - 06:14pm PT
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Fritz, that is called a stud pile. All the poop there is from wild stallions marking out their turf and having to try to erase the earlier droppings of their competitors. Very common. The lives of wild horses aren't easy ones.
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BBA
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OF
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Jul 26, 2014 - 07:03pm PT
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I think Tom Paine trumps bible thumpers.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Jul 26, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
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Not everyone needs a credo that strains credulity.
 donini for president... or at least could be a replacement for a daytime television talk show host
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Jul 26, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
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Dear Mark,
Sorry for your butthurt. Chongo could be perceived (as you do) as pejorative, but then again so might hermanito, pendejo, or bennybong. It was meant as a gently chiding term of endearment. Sorry sir for ruffling your feathers by posting a joke and then teasing you for not getting it. All teasing, sarcasm, tomfoolery and wordplay will be avoided sith you in the future.
Your sincere compatriot,
Mineownself
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go-B
climber
Cling to what is good!
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Jul 26, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
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Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! :)
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Jul 26, 2014 - 08:58pm PT
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Bravecowboy, I will now have a good laugh with everyone over my getting ruffled and hand you some homemade limoncello to enjoy; please pass it around the campfire.
Scrubbingbubbles, no doctrine or philosophy owns the corner on good or evil! They're only as good or bad as the humans practicing them.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 27, 2014 - 01:32am PT
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Marcus A's son is just the tip of the upper class classical iceberg.
St. Augustine is a bad boy turned saint, fer sure.
I've just now come across this in the new book I've checked out from the library. (Thank you, Sharonne!) She is my own sweet librarian, some of you may recall the poem I penned to her some time back.
Anyway, the book's about early cinematic efforts to bring art to the masses.
George is a young man who is trying out a career as an actor in the Paris of the first decade of the twentieth century.
"The term used for the likes of George and his ilk in Nickie's circle was bourgeois. But this term, much like a curse word, had different meanings depending on the place and time. In this time and place bourgeois was something to strive for. It wasn't as much about having money as it was showing that you had money. And showing that you had money was quite expensive. George had fallen into this social trap. And it was a trap. No one with a modest salary could ever keep up the appearances that were necessary for long. The latest thing for the new bourgeois was to have a sitting room, and while George had just enough money to finish his fancy new parlor, afterward, there would be nothing left.
His father had spent every penny he had sending George to the finest schools, clothing him in the best threads, not so much for his son's sake but in order to show that he was in the same class as his peers.
So it was a great disappointment that George decided to become an actor."
I could not help but notice the passage and decided it would interest y'all.
Black and white cinema history.Colorful lady.
This is the artist's palette for the masses.
Some people LIVE their art.
Some people LIVE their religion.
Some people APPRECIATE both.
Some people WORSHIP both.
They all LIKE TO ATTEND the cinema.
"Why shouldn't the lower class have art? Maybe that's just what this country needs. An art that will humble the upper class and bring them to their knees. Let's get everyone on the same level for a change. The lower class is just the upper class without a sitting room. I'm going to get everyone into the same room, I promise you."
--the Artist Who Wanted to Be Called Lear (say it as Lay R)
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Anastasia
climber
Home
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Jul 27, 2014 - 03:34am PT
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As a humanist myself... I believe in human flaws and failures. What makes people great is how gracefully they handle their weaknesses and what they achieve beyond that.
It's why I am very forgiving of other and "myself." Plus... Why I am happy. I can really enjoy the good side of folks and... Not get hung up on the stupid stuff that always is passing through. Might as well help it along and stick to the good stuff.
I treat people well because I simply enjoy it more than arguing, fighting, dominating a scene because even when you win a fight... What do you really win? So far the mess it creates is not worth the effort. I rather just go be happy and useful somewhere else.
Anastasia
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Jul 27, 2014 - 06:02am PT
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Another gem from Cat's Cradle:
We do, doodley do, doodley do, doodely do,
What we must, muddily must, muddily must, muddily must;
Muddily do, muddily do, muddily do, muddily do,
Until we bust, bodily bust, bodily bust, bodily bust
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jul 27, 2014 - 07:31am PT
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Dude, you need to google poker face.
So? Apparently she was born this way.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jul 27, 2014 - 07:36am PT
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Here's another form of self-objectification that really gets my goat:
"I'm an American." Usually conjugated with "proud" and at least one exclamation point.
Congratulations. That's quite an honor. I gather you are now entitled to live the good life. If I may ask, could you describe your endeavor to achieve that lofty rank?
Dear citizen of the United Universe, go to a corner and scratch yourself in contemplation.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jul 27, 2014 - 07:42am PT
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Why do people need to objectify themselves?
Like when someone says "I'm a climber." "I'm a vegetarian." "I'm a Christian."
I've never been able to understand that.
Says the self-proclaimed "climber" QITNL... ^^^^
QITNL
climber
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 27, 2014 - 07:43am PT
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Here's another form of self-objectification that really gets my goat:
"I'm an American." Usually conjugated with "proud" and at least one exclamation point.
Congratulations. That's quite an honor. I gather you are now entitled to live the good life. If I may ask, could you describe your endeavor to achieve that lofty rank?
"Uh, I was born here."
Often followed with f'em if they weren't.
We have a couple of posters here on ST who fit that description perfectly.
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overwatch
climber
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Jul 27, 2014 - 07:44am PT
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Don't label me, maaaaan.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 27, 2014 - 08:31am PT
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Equally silly:
What am I NOT?
Reverse labeling.
"I'm not PC, so I must be a redneck."
Like that: I'm no longer a TENNESSEEAN, I'm a CALIVALLEY BOY (or GIRL)?
Either you are are or your'e not not.
Either one is is or ain't ain't.
And then, not satisfied, we dreamed up doppelgangers.
Take a break from thinking about your selves.
Like, ALL THE TIME, and sh!t.
wood norwegian still be norwegian if he were really Norwegian or Jerry Garcian?
"I am NOT calling Dingus a redneck."
The truth can't hurt you cuz nobody knows the REAL truth from the good old timey lies, like Jesus be God, Gautama be holy, the cow be sacred.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Jul 27, 2014 - 09:47am PT
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From Anastasia
just go be happy and useful
What a succinct, rational, and practical philosophy!
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