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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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"Book him, Dano."
Naw, just make him retrieve the drone.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Aurora Colorado
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That's right Dingus, just a few miles East, in Deer Creek CO, the town govt told the news media they would be issuing hunting licenses for federal drones. There's a lot of libertarianism here.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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So since I can legally carry now in a national park I'm good to take me out
some o' them there droons?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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It'd be fun to get into falconry and teach a big bird to take them out.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Chaz! Chaz! We all got to adjust our think for the new millenium.
And to bad your kite was not smart and you were unable to forward images of the fire to 911. Every minute counts for wild fire suppression and you're thinking like a caveman?
The insignificant cost of a drone sending GPS tagged images to fire
suppression crews versus the enormous cost and delay
of manned spotter planes arriving at an incident location is
very attractive when budgets are limited.
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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That drone crash into Grand Prismatic Spring in Yellowstone is really annoying. Hope they fine the sh#t out of whoever did that :-(
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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They're going to ruin it for themselves. They probably already have.
Mr Milktoast is right when he says "I'm telling you these drone pilots are a pox...."
I've seen one drone fly one time. Last year at Pigeon Point Lighthouse. Seemed like a responsible guy at the controls. He put it away when the breeze started to come up, and he wasn't flying over people or even very close to the lighthouse. ( I flew my kite-camera much closer to the top of the lighthouse, after the wind came up that day ).
I just finished a drive up the Pacific Coast, and as much as I wanted kite-aerial shots, the conditions were marginal at almost every stop. Conditions I have a ton of experience flying in at home, and no different from those where I live and fly in all the time. But I couldn't justify taking the chance, however slight, of harshing everyone else's buzz if something went wrong. I don't want to be "that guy".
It's NOT a tough decision to make.
And if I find myself someplace new, I always ask whoever's in charge if it's OK to do what I do. I almost always get the green light, sometimes surprising - like when I got the OK from the Border Patrol on the Mexican Border.
But the times I'm glad I asked first are when I'm told "no", like at Yaquina Head Lighthouse last Sunday. The HMFIC there said no kites whatsoever, because just off the lighthouse is an island-rock full of nesting birds they would rather not spook. That was something I hadn't considered. Sounded like a good reason to me, but even if it didn't, it's their place - not mine.
When I err on the side of walking away, it's not so much about sparing me or my equipment as it is about everybody else. A nine-ounce camera attached to a fourteen-ounce rig falling at 32fps-squared can kill someone. A hundred yards of hundred-pound line laying across a road or power lines will ruin someone's day. And even if it just causes an inconvenience for others, I don't want to be the one responsible for ruining things for all the other kite-aerial-photography guys.
Happy to say, I've never involved any strangers in my pastime. I don't "direct traffic" or give anyone a "heads-up" because nobody else should have to worry about what I'm doing. That's not why they're there.
Too bad for the drone guys their community isn't as close as the KAP ( kite aerial photography ) community. There's no instruction manual for KAP. We learn from each other, and everybody in KAP knows everyone else. That may be why you never read about us in the paper.
I could have really cleaned-up here ( Yaquina Head, OR ) Sunday:
But it would have come at the expense of a nesting season and the reputation of the KAP community.
As it was, I had a fine day! A day I'll always remember. I hiked up a hill with a long lens and a tripod. And I saw a whale while I was there!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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A few years ago, a KAP guy posted a pic he took looking down on one of those giant high tension power line towers.
Although a fine shot, it was appreciated by exactly nobody in the KAP community, and he was told so.
That one went into the books as a lesson learned the easy way.
If your community won't police itself, you're just asking for someone else to come in and do it for you.
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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Sep 30, 2014 - 08:50pm PT
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vile machines, flown by tards and as#@&%es
http://mashable.com/2014/07/23/drone-saves-life-missing-man/
so the drone i'm working on to monitor hotspots in real time and transmit to a handdheld, saving buildings from going up and and smoke jumpers from being burned alive is prolly shite too...
idiots. tell you what - i won't let them use it in cali.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Nov 18, 2014 - 11:01pm PT
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If I was a good enough pilot I probably could fly my drone up my ass.
I'll fly wherever the f*#k I want, Yosemite. I'll f*#king fly in your Yosemite Lodge kitchen, I'll fly all over your f*#king Royal Arches, I'll fly anywhere I want!
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Nov 19, 2014 - 02:26am PT
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It's no drone, it's one of my RC Warbird pylon racers.
It's against our charter so it would never happen, but if I ever put this bad girl through her laps up and down the valley from El Cap meadow on a Saturday afternoon at least a dozen climbers would poop themselves at their perch and curse the reckless bastard who so recklessly disregarded their safety.
Like I said, it would never happen, but damn it would be fun.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 19, 2014 - 02:37am PT
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You throw that putt-putt of yours off the top of El Cap and I'll throw a rooster and we'll see which hits the talus first, OK?
You are WARPED, sir.
But that goes with being a fine poet. *smooch-smooch*
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Nov 19, 2014 - 04:03am PT
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Regarding my earlier post, I was only trying to make a funny. When it comes to actually flying model aircraft in an accepted and safe venue or otherwise, it is no laughing matter.
In my view, the drone craze is getting a bit out of hand. I've been flying RC for about ten years with a local Sacramento RC modelers club and our hobby/sport is regulated by the AMA (Academy of Model Aeronautics). In the first few years of flying models most avid RC pilots crash their aircraft multiple times during the learning process due to pilot error, and mechanical, radio, or other system failures. The longest life I ever got out of one airplane was six years (about 300 flights) before degradation of the airframe took its toll. Even the most skilled model aircraft pilots who have been active in the hobby for many years still crash airplanes for the same reasons stated above, only less often. My first few years flying I flew every weekend and averaged about five wrecked planes a year.
The idea that a fledging or even an experienced private drone pilot should put a drone in the air nearby large groups of people, during any type of disaster or rescue operation, or near a national treasure or large sporting event is irresponsible, endangers lives, and also puts in jeopardy the rights of other more careful hobbyist to pursue their sport. Whenever piloted aircraft fly by our airfield we fly our models down to the deck and land. We don't chase wildlife with them or fly them over the heads of people. Too many things can go wrong in flight and there is not always enough reaction time to avoid an out of control or falling aircraft.
Use your drones and other RC aircraft in the safe and accepted manner recommended by the product manufacturers and the hobby lobbyist such as the AMA and regulating bodies such as the FAA or we may lose the right to fly them at all.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 19, 2014 - 05:12am PT
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Thank you for that, Bushman. Yer all aces.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Nov 19, 2014 - 06:15am PT
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my dronez an indoor cat only. range 20', flight time 4 min. Little sucker is fast, though .
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 19, 2014 - 07:35am PT
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The FAA put droners on notice yesterday that they are subject to FAA "rules" if said drones
are operated recklessly. DADDY IS WATCHING!
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