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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jul 29, 2014 - 05:39pm PT
I'm telling you these drone pilots are a pox....

A drone spotted flying near the Sand fire on Sunday could have endangered firefighting aircraft working in the area, fire officials say.

Lynne Tolmachoff, spokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, said Monday that sheriff’s deputies located the person controlling the drone and grounded the radio-controlled plane. Flights by firefighting helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft were not affected by the incident, but Tolmachoff said the presence of drones is a concern.

She noted firefighting aircraft typically fly very low. Like a bird strike, she said, a small radio-controlled plane could bring down a helicopter or airplane.

Sgt. Chris Felton of the El Dorado County Sheriff’s Office said Monday that the incident was still being investigated. Sheriff’s deputies responded after several calls were received reporting a drone near the fire. Felton said the person controlling the drone apparently was a hobbyist looking to take video of the fire.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/29/6588674/fire-officials-say-drone-could.html#storylink=cpy

Just wait till one of those people brings down an airliner with their f*#king toys.

DMT
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jul 29, 2014 - 06:42pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2300816/Lovely-aerial-views-of-Vedauwoo
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 29, 2014 - 06:49pm PT
Droneless parks but no droneless narks?

That's sure to bring homeless dopers down.

Running sheep on private land using drones is one thing, but running wild sheep in national parks?

C'mon, Joe Public, use your head for once.

kaholatingtong

Trad climber
Nevada City
Jul 29, 2014 - 06:56pm PT
no drinking from creeks, and before you know it, these
Credit: kaholatingtong
will be everywhere. it is, after all, the biggest for profit industry of the future!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 29, 2014 - 08:25pm PT
The drone over a fire is just totally asinine.

I was flying a kite a few years ago when I noticed smoke starting to rise from the hills across the street. I pulled the kite down immediately, because where I live a fire means low flying aircraft coming from oddball directions.

Sure enough, fifteen minutes later the spotter planes showed up. Then five minutes later, the bombers were there.
WyoRockMan

climber
Flank of the Big Horns
Aug 6, 2014 - 10:55am PT
Jackwagon.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/tourist-crashes-drone-into-yellowstone-hot-spring/article_a1023e8a-92ac-5b0e-8086-c56a2510ad76.html
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 6, 2014 - 11:06am PT
"Book him, Dano."

Naw, just make him retrieve the drone.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 6, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
Surfer dude had it right - attack those goddamned things where ever you see them. Throw rocks, blankets, pieces of monkey sh#t, I don't care. Take them the f*#k OUT. Give the pieces back to the owner if she whines about it enough.

DMT
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Aurora Colorado
Aug 6, 2014 - 01:11pm PT
That's right Dingus, just a few miles East, in Deer Creek CO, the town govt told the news media they would be issuing hunting licenses for federal drones. There's a lot of libertarianism here.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 6, 2014 - 01:16pm PT
So since I can legally carry now in a national park I'm good to take me out
some o' them there droons?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 6, 2014 - 01:22pm PT
It'd be fun to get into falconry and teach a big bird to take them out.
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Aug 6, 2014 - 01:24pm PT
Chaz! Chaz! We all got to adjust our think for the new millenium.

And to bad your kite was not smart and you were unable to forward images of the fire to 911. Every minute counts for wild fire suppression and you're thinking like a caveman?

The insignificant cost of a drone sending GPS tagged images to fire
suppression crews versus the enormous cost and delay
of manned spotter planes arriving at an incident location is
very attractive when budgets are limited.

labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Aug 6, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
That drone crash into Grand Prismatic Spring in Yellowstone is really annoying. Hope they fine the sh#t out of whoever did that :-(
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 7, 2014 - 09:06am PT
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/06/us-usa-drones-yellowstone-idUSKBN0G62I620140806
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 7, 2014 - 10:17am PT
They're going to ruin it for themselves. They probably already have.

Mr Milktoast is right when he says "I'm telling you these drone pilots are a pox...."

I've seen one drone fly one time. Last year at Pigeon Point Lighthouse. Seemed like a responsible guy at the controls. He put it away when the breeze started to come up, and he wasn't flying over people or even very close to the lighthouse. ( I flew my kite-camera much closer to the top of the lighthouse, after the wind came up that day ).

I just finished a drive up the Pacific Coast, and as much as I wanted kite-aerial shots, the conditions were marginal at almost every stop. Conditions I have a ton of experience flying in at home, and no different from those where I live and fly in all the time. But I couldn't justify taking the chance, however slight, of harshing everyone else's buzz if something went wrong. I don't want to be "that guy".

It's NOT a tough decision to make.

And if I find myself someplace new, I always ask whoever's in charge if it's OK to do what I do. I almost always get the green light, sometimes surprising - like when I got the OK from the Border Patrol on the Mexican Border.

But the times I'm glad I asked first are when I'm told "no", like at Yaquina Head Lighthouse last Sunday. The HMFIC there said no kites whatsoever, because just off the lighthouse is an island-rock full of nesting birds they would rather not spook. That was something I hadn't considered. Sounded like a good reason to me, but even if it didn't, it's their place - not mine.

When I err on the side of walking away, it's not so much about sparing me or my equipment as it is about everybody else. A nine-ounce camera attached to a fourteen-ounce rig falling at 32fps-squared can kill someone. A hundred yards of hundred-pound line laying across a road or power lines will ruin someone's day. And even if it just causes an inconvenience for others, I don't want to be the one responsible for ruining things for all the other kite-aerial-photography guys.

Happy to say, I've never involved any strangers in my pastime. I don't "direct traffic" or give anyone a "heads-up" because nobody else should have to worry about what I'm doing. That's not why they're there.

Too bad for the drone guys their community isn't as close as the KAP ( kite aerial photography ) community. There's no instruction manual for KAP. We learn from each other, and everybody in KAP knows everyone else. That may be why you never read about us in the paper.

I could have really cleaned-up here ( Yaquina Head, OR ) Sunday:





But it would have come at the expense of a nesting season and the reputation of the KAP community.

As it was, I had a fine day! A day I'll always remember. I hiked up a hill with a long lens and a tripod. And I saw a whale while I was there!

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 7, 2014 - 10:34am PT
They're going to ruin it for themselves. They probably already have.

Its a vile technology. The tards that use them are incapable of self-regulation. FAA was f*#ked up beyond all recognition to authorize as many as 30k commercial drones by 20-whatever.


DMT
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2014 - 10:45am PT
It is going to get a lot worse. We will see technology take care of a lot of the issues with drones. All commercial drones will be required to have transponders so that they will be visible to air traffic.

http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/transponders-shrinking-to-meet-faa-drone-demands
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 7, 2014 - 10:51am PT
A few years ago, a KAP guy posted a pic he took looking down on one of those giant high tension power line towers.

Although a fine shot, it was appreciated by exactly nobody in the KAP community, and he was told so.

That one went into the books as a lesson learned the easy way.

If your community won't police itself, you're just asking for someone else to come in and do it for you.
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Sep 30, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
Drones are mostly plastic. Sure they have insulated wires
but they're quit thin and would fry open like a fuse. The
most likely danger is to an owner climbing up to
rescue a stuck drone and getting zapped.


Large birds like small birds shyt when they take off.
The squirt, called a streamer, zaps lots of
birds by making a complete circuit all the time.

http://www.aplic.org/FAQs.php


Arrested!
New Jersey Man Accused Of Shooting Down Neighbor’s Remote Control Drone
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/09/30/new-jersey-man-accused-of-shooting-down-neighbors-remote-control-drone/
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Sep 30, 2014 - 08:50pm PT
vile machines, flown by tards and as#@&%es


http://mashable.com/2014/07/23/drone-saves-life-missing-man/


so the drone i'm working on to monitor hotspots in real time and transmit to a handdheld, saving buildings from going up and and smoke jumpers from being burned alive is prolly shite too...

idiots. tell you what - i won't let them use it in cali.
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