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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Apr 24, 2014 - 08:17am PT
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Apr 24, 2014 - 08:24am PT
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Those are banned in Texas...for good reason...rj
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 24, 2014 - 09:09am PT
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Philo, yer a raven lunatic sometimes, as we all are...
Chough titty, huh? :0)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-billed_Chough
"Game and Gun points out that henry VIII placed a bounty on crows, choughs, and rooks."--A History of Ideas
This was a bad idea. The Tudors extended the bounties to many sorts of "vermin" birds and wildlife nearly became endangered/extinct BECAUSE OF GUNS!
--From the same book, but paraphrased.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Apr 24, 2014 - 09:42am PT
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Thanks Ron. Deleted post. Just not interested.
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overwatch
climber
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Apr 24, 2014 - 10:21am PT
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That is fairly obtainable long range shooting by just about anyone with the gear and the will.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 24, 2014 - 10:25am PT
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?????
What do you call a family of amerikkklan patri-idiots on their way home from the local Rod n Gun club?
De-Ranged.
:-)
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:11am PT
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Under the Safe Carry Protection Act, if a gun license holder brings a gun into church against the wishes of that church’s leaders, the gun owner will be fined $100. If a non-license holder brings a gun to that same church, he or she will be guilty of a misdemeanor.
This is the kind of thing that really makes me mad. It's bad enough that bringing a concealed weapon onto private property against the explicit wishes of the owner is treated like a parking ticket, but doing it when you don't even have a concealed weapon license is only a misdemeanor???
No wonder gun-nuts keep crying "enforce existing laws", even criminals have little to fear from laws like this. At this rate, soon it'll be perfectly legal to point a loaded gun at a Federal Law Enforcement Officer carrying out a court order...
TE
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:30am PT
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This thread gives me a powerful hankerin for some strange.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:47am PT
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I figure spouting about firearms the way that the Chief does,
we fun-lovers ought to be so angry we could spit.
Instead, I am splitting my sides at his insistence that gun-lovers are the only ones who are right. This is the same old shitte but in a different set of threads.
How can you "debaters" reconcile spending time answering this foolish talk,
for that is what it is.
Numbers of people like the Chief are the biggest reason we have gun deaths in mass--because THEY GOTTA BE RIGHT at everyone else's expense. They are such good citizens.
Chief, your particular debating technique leaves me in stitches. Name-calling is such a winning gambit.
Get a grip on your hate and your fear of maybe being wrong, sir. Please?
And have a good life.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:48am PT
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Qualifying for a Georgia CCW permit at one time also automatically covered for position of explosives. (If you had a CCW permit you could legally buy and possess dynamite or other explosives)
Wonder if that's still true?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:49am PT
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Don't you reside in West Virginia? One of the MOST liberal of states in the nation when it comes to ownership and carrying of firearms AND speedos.
Another winner (SLR) that doesn't know nor understand the laws in the state which they currently reside.
Yeah, I was stopped and searched once going into Canada, because the Canadians didn't believe that someone from West Virginia wasn't packing. It was an ordeal.
But even so, carrying guns into government buildings and schools is still not legal here. (:
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:54am PT
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Being serious, how many of you guys have actually killed someone with one of these, or is it all for show?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
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At the remote risk that anyone would take any of Chief's posts seriously -
his numbers are, predictably, bullsh#t.
gun and traffic deaths are actually very close - within 10% of each other. In many states - UT, AK, WA, CA...gun deaths exceed traffic deaths.
The trends are key here, though. traffic deaths are on the decline - gun deaths are on the rise and have been on a remarkably steady, linear basis since 2000. The two will likely converge this or next year.
2/3 of gun deaths are suicides, and the vast majority of those are men who choose to leave a horrific mess for their survivors.
I needn't post link because they're all over the place from a variety of sources - and they all agree.
Non-hunting guns - high capacity mags, and all hand guns, should be regulated at least to the degree cars are, given the enormous and growing damage they do to America's public health and well being.
One interesting thing to note - gun deaths peaked in 1993, then markedly declined to a low in 2000, when they began rising again.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
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Yellow alert: You're within the 2500 m 'hate mongering admonishment high risk zone', DMT.
Beware of strange sporting mops.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
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Gerg, I actually know some operators who are into double digits, but it is not a bragging point. The general public has a warped polarized view of mercenaries, seeing them as unprincipled guns for hire. Many are actually former soldiers who have demonstrated both effective skill sets and the psychological resistance to traumatic situations, and are highly scrupulous employees committed to worthwhile causes.
These threads are such a waste of bandwidth. Nobody ever changes their mind, and there is little useful info.
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
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^^ ok thanks toker.
So then most of these photos from Chief etc are obviously taken in America, but they are preparing for their job in other war situations. Or do you mean they have double digits within America? (And they are not cops)
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
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Don't get me wrong - I do loves me some swaggerin.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Apr 24, 2014 - 01:09pm PT
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I'm not sure why pics of the longest running, most expensive military failure in US history should cause my chest to swell with patriotic pride, but that's probably just me. Frankly, I'm kind of embarrassed I helped fund such a predictable shitshow.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Apr 24, 2014 - 01:12pm PT
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2/3 of gun deaths are suicides, and the vast majority of those are men who choose to leave a horrific mess for their survivors.
Maybe, but check out US suicide rate compared to other countries--it's not especially high. And I don't see any clear link between countries that have high suicide rates and gun ownership.
(I've pointed this out before on other threads, and actually got an acknowledgement from someone that they learned something from my post--a rare occurrence on ST!)
Check out the suicide rate in Japan (super high, gun ownership super low) and Canada (almost the same suicide rate as US, but very different gun ownership).
It does seem that where guns are widely available, many people who choose to kill themselves will use guns. It's self-evident that guns are very effective at killing people, either the wielder or someone else.
Both suicide and gun ownership are complex topics, but it seems misguided to me to say something like "guns are bad cuz they cause people to kill themselves."
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Apr 24, 2014 - 01:15pm PT
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You don't need more than 3 rounds in a gun to kill any game animal, and that includes elephants. If so - consider another sport you might actually be good at.
And if you DO see an elephant out there - please wait six hours before resuming your hunt.
For home defense, don't be an as#@&%e. Use a shotgun.
The neighbors newborn baby 3 doors down with thank you later for it.
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