Rancher +Militia vs BLM,trouble on the range.(OT)


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Jul 7, 2014 - 11:11am PT
Seems like an on topic post from end wrecker...disguises for the anti-governmentals

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jul 14, 2014 - 03:19pm PT
Drug and Weapon charges. No wonder they don't want to acknowledge the government.


Trad climber
Bay Area
Jul 14, 2014 - 04:10pm PT
Weapon theft?
Opiate addiction?

Poster boy for the right wing whackos. Even better than Rush Limberger.

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jul 14, 2014 - 04:56pm PT
That's awesome, Cliven's kid is a doper.

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jul 14, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
Per the above posts and the link from Stahlbro.


LAS VEGAS (AP) — The adult son of a Nevada rancher who hosted armed protesters against federal agents in a cattle roundup dispute in April acknowledged Monday that he faces arrest in a separate criminal case stemming from his felony conviction on burglary and weapon charges.

Cliven Lance Bundy, 34, said during a telephone interview with The Associated Press that he knows he's named in a contempt-of-court warrant issued July 8 in Las Vegas for failing to appear before a Clark County District Court judge who oversees a drug diversion program.

"I'm trying to get ahold of my counselor to see what I'm supposed to do," said Lance Bundy, who is not currently represented by a lawyer.

Bundy said he underwent outpatient surgery the day the warrant was issued and has been recuperating at his parents' home in Bunkerville, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

The court record shows Bundy missed several previous hearings, and that officials said they were unable to reach him to notify him of court dates.

He could face two to eight years in state prison if he is found in violation of terms of the five years' probation imposed after he pleaded guilty in February 2013 to felony burglary and weapon theft charges.

Bundy attributed his conviction to an addiction to opiate pain killers, and said he has been getting counseling.

Bundy's parents, Cliven and Carol Bundy, said they thought their son obtained medical releases from the court-ordered drug program.

Yes! Another "poster-child" for the right-wing---wingnuts to love. After all, he stole weapons. What's Rong with that?

Anything is all-right if you are far-right & supported by Rong!

Burns Brigade member in training.
Burns Brigade member in training.
Credit: internet

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 4, 2014 - 02:25pm PT
From the "It ain't over till it's over" department.
The Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility organization.
They have published a Dept of Homeland Security Intelligence Assessment on the increased risk of domestic violence arising from or related to Bundyville.
An Intelligence Assessment from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security dated July 22, 2014, titled “Domestic Violent Extremists Pose Increased Threat to Government Officials and Law Enforcement,” notes that, “After years of only sporadic violence from violent domestic extremists motivated by anti-government ideologies, I&A (Office of Intelligence and Analysis) has seen a spike within the past year in violence. Based upon reports from state and federal law enforcement reports, this Assessment finds:

“I&A assesses that perceived victory by militia extremists in a show of force against the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Land Management (BLM) in Nevada in April will likely inspire additional anti-government violence over the next year.”
“I&A also assesses that the recent murders of two Las Vegas police officers is the latest and most severe in a growing trend of anti-government violence…” and
The “perceived victory” from the Bundy stand-off “is galvanizing some individuals – particularly militia extremists and violent lone offenders – to actively confront law enforcement officials, increasing the likelihood of violence.”
The complete Intelligence Assessment published in July is here:


Sport climber
Sep 4, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
Sorry for sideways pic
Sorry for sideways pic
Credit: D2R2
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 4, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
Radical shitheads steal public grazing, brag about it and then claim godly rights to that land.

Radical shitheads indeed.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Sep 4, 2014 - 03:47pm PT
Im reminded of another thread about a certain bunch of rioting looters. Seems folks on this forum were all up in that and the disgusting militaristic forces that were there. I guess that only extends to Black folks and not the White, or ranchers. ??

And JRig,, please elaborate on your comment, as i know many land owners that can and do camp on their purchased lands. Year around even.

Meanwhile, Cliven Bundy has hit the lecture circuit.

And BLM continues to sell off gorgeous lands critical to wildlife in the name of energy exploitation,, errrr exploration..
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 4, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
Meanwhile, Cliven Bundy has hit the lecture circuit.

I hope he's a better speaker than he is a cattle rancher. Lol.

"The black man (blah blah blah) sitting on the porch (blah blah blah).

I'm sure he's speaking to packed houses of like minded racists.


Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 4, 2014 - 04:28pm PT
I made no claims or comment. I simply quoted some important information.

However you goad me into making a comment.
Isn't it ironic that many who were so eager for a Dept Of Homeland Security when Al Queda was the threat are now so quick to ascribe ulterior motives to that department when a domestic terrorist threat is identified?
Or what really was your point?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Sep 4, 2014 - 04:35pm PT
A prominent black leader is coming to the defense of Cliven Bundy
alan keyes
A prominent black leader is coming to the defense of the Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was pilloried on Thursday after the New York Times published part of a video to try and make him seem racist for referencing slavery.

Former U.N. Ambassador Alan Keyes, who also is a columnist for WND said “He wasn’t talking so much about black folks, but about the harm and damage that the leftist socialism has done to blacks.”

Click like if you are tired of the liberal media

A report by Adam Nagourney in The New York Times said Bundy made the comments that critics are calling racist.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Nagourney quoted Bundy saying.

Bundy was recalling the public housing projects in North Las Vegas.

“And in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do,” he said.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

For a farmer or cattle rancher “picking cotton” is not racist. It is a way of life. They pick cotton, squash and all types of things.

Ammon Bundy, Cliven Bundy’s son, told WND that the quotes were taken out of context and that his father was commiserating over the poor situation in which black people find themselves because of the oppressive government programs, regulations and practices.

Keyes said that was evident.

“I find it appalling that we basically have a history of the leftist liberalism that wants to extinguish black people by abortion [and] destroying the family structure,” Keyes told WND. “All of these things if you just look at the effects, you would say this was planned by some racist madman to destroy the black community.”

Then when somebody comes along to comment on that damage, the leftists all scream “racism,” he said.

“I think it’s time somebody started to recognize the racism that exists in its effects – the hard leftist ideology using the black community for their sacrificial lamb, for their sick ideology. It’s time we called them what they are,” he said.

“Now it’s racist to point it out.”

Ammon Bundy told reporters: “They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate. That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.

He said he was “there standing right beside my father when he made those comments.”

“He was reaching out to the black community,” Ammon Bundy said.

“Growing up around him, and being beside him, I never once heard him say anything negative about any race,” he said. “I wish I could say that about everyone else I’ve been around. The black community, the white community, they joke back and forth. My father’s never lowered himself.”

Ammon Bundy said his father’s message “was taken out of context.”

The point was that the government “has kept them oppressed,” he said. “They’ve never been given a situation to be able to thrive, get themselves out of slavery.”

It was confirmed by The Right Scoop blog that Cliven Bundy he was wondering about what’s best for black people as a whole.

“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”

What some fail to realize though is the tactics that the liberal media is notorious for using. Take the American peoples eyes off of the fact at hand concerning the overreaching government and distract them with claims of racism or some form of hate. Just look at Zimmerman. A hispanic man shoots a 17 year old black guy that is beating his head into the concrete and the media calls white people racist.


Sep 4, 2014 - 04:36pm PT
Here is your domestic and world terrorist threats. These guys are number one and destroyed millions and millions of lives and still doing it.

Stooopid Americans ......

strugglin' to make time to climb
Sep 4, 2014 - 05:07pm PT
so what are you doing about it Werner? what did you do when they were in office of power? blame stupid americans?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
Sep 4, 2014 - 05:11pm PT
i'm guessing the answer to that question is "same thing as you, man,"
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 4, 2014 - 06:14pm PT
I bet you still get the pleasure of paying property taxes 365 days a year, eh Johnny? Got anything to climb down that way? Trade you a bag of apples for a route next week.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 5, 2014 - 09:27am PT
A prominent black leader is coming to the defense of Cliven Bundy
alan keyes

I just want to point out one thing - Alan Keyes is no leader.

Dave Kos

Social climber
Sep 5, 2014 - 09:33am PT
Not exactly prominent either.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 5, 2014 - 10:03am PT
Do you not own the range rights to this 160 acres you bought? Or are the cows trespassing?

Just curious...



Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Sep 5, 2014 - 10:09am PT
It says nothing there about camping in a tent!

I've no idea whether that means tents are prohibited or allowed, but if you're in a tent, or sleeping in the open air (like the cows do), that regulation couldn't possibly apply.

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