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philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 1, 2014 - 12:25am PT
Will this get me into Neevadastan to climb?


From da Gipper, Runold Raygun hisseff.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
May 1, 2014 - 12:31am PT
The militia men are getting worked by the oldest trick in the book: agents provocateur. Half the people in that camp are probably FBI agents.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
May 1, 2014 - 12:39am PT
The militia men are getting worked by the oldest trick in the book: agents provocateur. Half the people in that camp are probably FBI agents.

That's one possible explanation as to how "protesters" were (allegedly) pointing loaded guns at fed cops seemingly with no repercussions--could be they were cops themselves, just doing some acting. Fun job if you can get it I suppose; as a taxpayer, the entire affair is nauseating.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
May 1, 2014 - 12:40am PT
Please cite the California case or statute that allows resistance to an "unlawful" detention.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
May 1, 2014 - 01:02am PT
Let me tell you guys a little something about maritime law.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
May 1, 2014 - 01:20am PT
Please cite the California case or statute that allows resistance to an "unlawful" detention.

I did cite a classic case, Sagon Penn in San Deigo. It is a little over the top and was also a case of self defense.

Also see California Jury Instruction 2670

http://www.courts.ca.gov/partners/documents/calcrim_juryins.pdf

[A peace officer may legally detain someone if [the person consents to
the detention or if]:
1. Specific facts known or apparent to the officer lead him or her
to suspect that the person to be detained has been, is, or is about
to be involved in activity relating to crime;
AND
2. A reasonable officer who knew the same facts would have the
same suspicion.
Any other detention is unlawful.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
May 1, 2014 - 06:27am PT
For all practicalities, resisting arrest is a pretty stupid move given how officers generally respond to such antics. Cops deal with all kinds of belligerent peope day in, day out and it's probably not in your best interest to be perceived as one of them. Better to sort it out at the station if it's gotten that far out of hand. You can attempt to stand on principle, but at least here in PDX you aren't going to be standing very long.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 1, 2014 - 09:18am PT
Just saying no to drugs....?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
May 1, 2014 - 09:18am PT
Phil...Outstanding young republican??

I crossed the border with Mexico several times last year in my truck. No issues with border patrol. They have job to do thanks to GWB and Homeland Security.

Watch what you wish for.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
May 1, 2014 - 09:21am PT
That's one possible explanation as to how "protesters" were (allegedly) pointing loaded guns at fed cops seemingly with no repercussions--could be they were cops themselves, just doing some acting. Fun job if you can get it I suppose; as a taxpayer, the entire affair is nauseating.

I hope there are FBI agents keeping an eye on these "patriot" creeps. Can't think of a better use of taxpayer dollars.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
May 1, 2014 - 10:00am PT
"I hope there are FBI agents keeping an eye on these "patriot" creeps. Can't think of a better use of taxpayer dollars."...


I agree!!!...


Enemies to a better America...

Wow... sheep really are easy to divide and conquer...

You do realize this is the same playbook that's been used countless times in the past with collapsing regimes?
dirtbag

climber
May 1, 2014 - 10:40am PT
Right wing extremists have killed thousands of people in the US. Far more than al Qaeda.
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
May 1, 2014 - 10:45am PT
From yesterday's paper
"It seems all these people do not recognize the logical extension of their actions: anarchy. The two definitions given for anarchy by the online Merriam-Webster Dictionary are 1. a state of society without government or law; and 2. political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control."
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 1, 2014 - 11:18am PT
From April 30th, Forbes

"Lately, Bundy’s leadership has taken on a religious tone. He claims that he has had a revelation from God that his supporters are to disarm the BLM and National Park Service, and to tear down the toll booth at Lake Mead."
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 1, 2014 - 11:23am PT
I'm surprised only Locker and BobD were piqued by my Reagan medal. I expected a bit more razing. Let me say that it is one hundred percent real. Fortunately it was given by Reagan not to me but to my to my bat sh#t crazy rabid republican Grandmother for her efforts to dismantle America,
I am not sure why I ended up with it but it's a hoot to show it to people and watch their reactions. My Dad is also a diehard republican. He got George Bush to autograph a hundred dollar bill at a political rally. Talk about devaluing currency.
I trade them both for a cup of coffee and a scome.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 1, 2014 - 11:32am PT
I think the word you are looking for is obliviously. lol
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 1, 2014 - 11:34am PT
What medal? I ain't got time to surf this whole gdamn thread, I gotta stay on the wall and watch out fer them gdamn yankee ninja agents n sh#t....
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 1, 2014 - 11:35am PT
This medal Survival.
I was kind of hoping I could wear it like a Rapper's bling and that the NevadaStan Oaf Creapers would let me pass with my knackwurst un-molested.
WBraun

climber
May 1, 2014 - 11:39am PT
There's only one guy here having anything to do with the subject matter of this thread.

He's told you 3000 posts ago to fuk off.

Since then ya all been talkin to yourselves to the mirror.

You people are crazier then the ones you're callin out ......
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 1, 2014 - 11:42am PT
Really Duckblind I didn't see a post by Senator "Dirty Harry" Reid.
:-)
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