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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
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Biggest troll this month so far, or biggest idiot....carry on
plasticluvr
Gym climber
ft lauderdale fl
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
I agree it is not so much about the meat as it is about cruelty to animals.
If you buy free range animals that have not been mistreated then you can eat meat with a clear conscious.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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We've had way better trolls.
Edit- ok this troll is looking much better now that Jim B is here!
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Vegan girls don't swallow.
Next!
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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If all meat eaters went veggie what would be the impact?
About 9x more efficiency. Animals capture about 10% of the input given to them.
Disclaimer: I've been a veg for about 30 years, mostly for environmental reasons. In short, one word: entropy.
I'm not militant about it. To each his own, but really, growing grain to feed to cattle so you can eat the cattle is terribly inefficient.
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MisterE
climber
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You Kaptha types just don't get the Pitha/Vatha thing:
WE NEED MEAT!
;)
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Laramie
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Elmer Gantry last lectured us on the energy costs of eating red meat but our cars consume far more gas than the meat industry. Plasticluvr, how about putting your focus where a change is possible and the results significant.
What is economic freedom? being able to spend a $ on what we want and attempting to produce what will sell.
Long before the Buddha emerged, or Christ was born or the Rig Veda was written our ancestral genes evolved and like it not all of our ancestors somewhere in that African lineage Killled Animals to Eat Meat. Now chimpanzees chew on fibers for 6 hr of there 13 hr waking part of day and they live a short life. A recent study concluded vegas live 3 mo. longer than meat eaters.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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growing grain to feed to cattle so you can eat the cattle is terribly inefficient.
Growing it to make fuel for your car is even less efficient.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Good thing it's elk season here right now. I just don't think your statistics of land, water and fossil fuels applies in the woods.
mmmmmm, backstraps. otherwise known as TENDERLOINS
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pc
climber
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I'm all for good alternatives...
I tried veggie jerky, teryaki, last night...
...... Almost inspired a Bulgemelon post from me...
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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oh...I thought we were gonna slag Whitemeat
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Will also let you know you are pond scum for getting your dog from a reputable breeder rather than a rescue.
She is superior to you , bow down.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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From a brutally objective point of view, a vasectomy is one of the "greenest" things you can do. The even more "green" things than that involve either mass murder or suicide. Perhaps it is best to not take limiting your carbon footprint too seriously, or to judge other's by theirs too much, the logical conclusions are disturbing.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Do you stereotype with both hands at once?
I personally could not care if you eat chimpanzee or a chunk of kale.
Not my business. The stereotype of the vegan preaching is unfortunately a truth. Having lived in Boulder many years and having worked in the natural food industry, I have many vege and vegan friends. I spent probably 10 years practicing some form of a " meat free life style" before deciding on a diet that is right for me.
In my experience many vegans want to be recognized and commended for their enlightened approach to diet. I have run across many holy'r than thou vegans. Maybe this is a result of spending too much time in Boulder but I found the same attitude living in SF too so... Anyway, to each his own.
I personally believe in the Michael Pollan approach to diet. “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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+1 “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."
Generally an animals teeth will tell you what their proper diet is. The above quote basically fits our teeth.
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MikeL
climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
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This is not my area.
Why is meat so cheap and produce so expensive comparably? What am I missing?
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