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plasticluvr

Gym climber
ft lauderdale fl
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 5, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
About 80 percent of the world’s farmland is used to support the meat and poultry industries, and much of that goes to growing animal feed. An efficient use of resources this is not. For example, a single pound of cooked beef, a family meal’s worth of hamburgers, requires 298 square feet of land, 27 pounds of feed, and 211 gallons of water.

Supplying meat not only devours resources but also creates waste. That same pound of hamburger requires more than 4,000 Btus of fossil-fuel energy to get to the dinner table; something has to power the tractors, feedlots, slaughterhouses, and trucks. That process, along with the methane the cows belch throughout their lives, contributes as much as 51 percent of all greenhouse gas produced in the world.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:10pm PT
and provides entire economys across the globe.. Ooopsie you left that one out..
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:12pm PT
OMG !!!

I'm having fish tonight.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:14pm PT
provides jobs for heart surgeons also,
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
If God did not want us to eat animals why did he make them out of meat?
plasticluvr

Gym climber
ft lauderdale fl
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
Traditional chicken, beef, and pork production devours resources and creates waste. Meat-free meat might be the solution.
jstan

climber
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
P/L:

Nice first effort. Since someone will say it, maybe I can. Where you can it is a good idea to include links to data sources. Links are wonderfully easy to follow up.

I trust you know what you are getting into here.

If God did not want us to eat animals why did he make them out of meat?

God also made animals to eat us. That's why we are made of meat.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
Yah send me that link while i gnaw on this Elk steak..
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
Huh, I'm having elk tonight. Yesterday was fish. I caught the fish, I killed the elk, neither involved a slaughterhouse, hormones, antibiotics, or nearly as many wasted BTU's as quoted.

The truth about the world: technology has outpaced good sense, and there's just too damn many people. Some day technology will fail us, and the number of people will shrink dramatically.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
So u love plastic but don't like meat?
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:23pm PT
Let's harness those methane beltches to produce power and go get a burger.

Do you really think harvesting of veggies has no environmental impact? Agreed that if we all lived on farms and grew our own food the world would be better. That is just not practical given our urban lifestyle.

I like to eat meat. You are a veggie. Let's think about it. If all meat eaters went veggie what would be the impact? The need for protein substances would transition from animals to plants. Are those plants going to magically appear with no environmental impact? Fertilizer comes from where? Processing of the veggies requires water which requires other resources It is all a trade off. There is no free lunch.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
I forgot to mention the home-grown veggies, 'cause you know... commercial veggies only have about half the nutrients due to overuse of the soil they're grown in and use of artificial fertilizer instead of good old compost.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
Maybe the real argument is "don't kill animals".
plasticluvr

Gym climber
ft lauderdale fl
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
A 2012 study at the University of Exeter in the U.K. calculated the degree to which diets must change in order to feed the world in 2050 and stave off catastrophic climate change. The researchers found that average global meat consumption would have to decrease from 16.6 percent of average daily calorie intake to 15 percent. That may not sound like much, but it translates to roughly halving the amount of meat in Western diets—a major change, but conceivable with high-quality meat alternatives.
jstan

climber
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
J/R:
ST then will solve our artificial fertilizer problem?
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:34pm PT
Song from Meat is Murder album ...
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
A 2012 study at the University of Exeter in the U.K. calculated the degree to which diets must change in order to feed the world in 2050 and stave off catastrophic climate change. The researchers found that average global meat consumption would have to decrease from 16.6 percent of average daily calorie intake to 15 percent. That may not sound like much, but it translates to roughly halving the amount of meat in Western diets—a major change, but conceivable with high-quality meat alternatives.

And where will the protein source come from and what are the impacts?
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
Fertilizer problem? With all the B.S.? Nah... just take the laptop out to the garden with ya... Voila!

Oh, and eat less meat to prevent global warming? Don't you know global warming's a hoax?
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/970221/Climate-Change-skeptics-ot
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
They aren't spree killers/ mass murderers.

They are just woefully misunderstood environmental activists.
tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Nov 5, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
Return to the roots??? Aka cannibalism?
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