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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Why delete the human condition?
You both should have left everything up.
It was good ....
Agreed.
And, I believe I generally always enjoy Ed's posts as well as KLK's posts. And, occasionally one of your posts. haha
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Oh, hey guys! Can I play?
Edit: Howdy, Rivet Hanger! Good to see you again.
Edit: Dingus, old chap! Always a pleasure!
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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It seems to me that the idea of "ethic" here is confused with "parochialism" or provinciality. Wings of Steel does not appear to be .. say.. the Compressor Route or a similar ethical controversy but a challenge to the provincial milieu.
Why was Richard, who was sitting right there up front, not invited on stage?
as for the film, good on ya! It makes me want to know more about the route and about it's authors and about all the greasy underbelly of the era (especially when you add this to the classic warren vs royal snort fest). I was happy to see it and amazed at the climb.
And where can I get a T shirt? Skip has one!
oh, It's a bit obvious that those who are inclined to diss the esthetic of the route should climb it first, otherwise those comments look quite small to those of us in the stands.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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the classic warren vs royal snort fest
Warren was awesome! That was classic and fun! This and these guys?... not so much. haha
It's a bit obvious that those who are inclined to diss the esthetic of the route should climb it first
Have you ever hooked a flake? ;)
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Hey, where did all of the posts from last night go? =(
For cry yi, this is a public forum! We should be creating an environment here in which people feel safe enough to post their honest opinions even if they ARE wrong and have rocks for brains. =(
Speaking of which, Rudder, I have been meaning to ask:
In the above Internet Hug, which pony are YOU?
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Ah geez, not the ponies!
Maybe the pink one. haha
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Ahhhh Pinkie Pie!
A wonderful choice.
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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I saw the movie at Facelift and thought it was really well done. Decided to talk to Richard the next day and was impressed by what a thoughtful and conscious man he is (and was, I am sure). Saw it again last night and talked to Jeff. He has put a lot of work and thought into providing a broad and telling story. Good on you.
There will always be somebody who gets pissed off or does not see it a particular way. But the light needs to be shown if your going to see the whole picture. Ammon and the whole crew did this well.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Thank you MUCH! It was a true pleasure to meet you, and I just wish we had had more time to talk. Maybe next year, 'cause I definitely want to be part of Facelift! :-)
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Self appointed ethical arbiter/historian positing on film and WWWeb for posterity is all the vindication anyone could possibly hope for...
the ascenders will be remembered for the ascending.
the arbiter will be remembered for.....
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MisterE
climber
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...his own boldness, hopefully.
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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There will always be somebody who gets pissed off or does not see it a particular way.
A key point. Some people just aren't going to like or do right by some other people, no matter what. Some people are simply not going to be open to a different perspective, no matter what. There is wisdom in recognizing when there is no prize to the fight.
Hopefully Steve is remembered as MisterE presents him.
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